NannyPat39

When did our country become so divided? Why is there so much finger pointing about where our children go to school. My three girls went to private school because we wanted them to. No, we really couldn't afford to send them so we did without much of what we wanted until they were graduated. That was our choice and why should others criticize us. It's all about what a family is willing to do for their children to have a good education. Our county didn't have a very good school system then. No they have built the system up and I would have no problem sending my kids there. In fact some of my grandchildren attend public school and do really well. Just do your best for your kids and give others the same freedom

vettelover Loc: Richmond Va

Don't think your reply was intended for me

Loki Loc: Georgia

It wasn't. It's called trying to do several things at once. Oops!

vettelover Loc: Richmond Va

No problem Loki. Happens to me frequently. Merry Christmas

peter11937 Loc: NYS

MERRY CHRISTMAS AS EVERYONE! Don't drink too much on New Year's eve, My Dad refereed to it as "amateur night" , unsafe as non drinkers drank and drove hat night making it dangerous to everyone. BE SAFE,.....even PeterS......

maximus Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee

OK I watched the video. Load of crap. Why? first, why go to a collage where almost everyone there is liberal, young, inexperienced idiot to ask about voter ID. I didn't a single collage student there in poverty. Most of them are just repeating what their liberal professors have pounded into their brain. Second, the interviewer did not ask a single poverty stricken minority the same question. If the people on only one side are asked, you get a lopsided report. If people that are actually living in the circumstance that is being asked about are not asked the same question, you get only the opinions of people who give statistics but not experience.
I worked security for 3 years in a building made up almost entirely of poverty level minorities. Everyone had to have a disability to be able to live there. Everyone there was on multiple city, state, and federal programs. And everyone there had a photo ID card. Everyone. Maybe 5 or 6 had a car. Everyone else got around to wherever they needed to go with no problem. The only ones I ever saw that didn't have ID were transients who couldn't vote anyway not being in their home state and just plain bums that wouldn't vote if you picked them up and drove them to a voting booth.
So what's the REAL reason that Dems do not want voter ID? The only logical answer is so that all the illegal aliens that they have let come in to this country can vote illegally to get the Dems back in office. It appears to be the only way they can get elected at this time in history.
Oh ! Wait a minute! There is one more way. Get the people already IN this country vote illegally because they live in other states and get bused in. That is what I'm hearing about the Ala race. I also heard that the military vote supported Moore. If none of this is true, then why were the votes destroyed immediately after especially when they were ordered not to not to be destroyed. Only evidence is destroyed so that it cannot be used to right a wrong. Hillary did it 33,000 times ( with no penalty for destruction of evidence, I might add.)
Your video and your argument does not hold up to scrutiny in any logical way.

Loki Loc: Georgia

You are correct. I hate to be the Grinch, but most people who are supposedly being discriminated against receive government services for which they MUST already have ID suitable for voting purposes. The ONLY reason is so that the illegals and felons can vote. Face it, if illegals had a tendency to vote Republican, the Democrats would let out a howl you could hear on Neptune. Every illegal would be deported and the wall would have been built yesterday; (using Mexican slave labor if necessary.)

whitnebrat Loc: In the wilds of Oregon

In answer to the photo ID questions that were posed:

“Don't they have to have a photo ID to get welfare?”
myreporter.com wilmington N.C.
Is a photo ID required when applying for welfare, including food stamps?
Mike Voorheis
StarNews

The short answer is no, although it certainly makes things easier.
There are numerous other ways to verify identity and claim welfare and food stamps.
The website FRAC.org gives some helpful information on the food stamp program, officially called the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program or SNAP:
“The SNAP/Food Stamp caseworker is required to verify your identity. 7 CFR 273.2(f). There are many ways, however, that you may verify your identity. A photo ID is only one way. You should not be denied SNAP/Food Stamps simply because you do not have a photo ID. To prove who you are, you can use such things as a work or school ID, an ID for health benefits, an ID from another social services program such as TANF, wage stubs, a birth certificate, or a voter registration card. The SNAP/Food Stamp caseworker can also verify your identity by calling a “collateral contact” who can confirm you who are. Shelter workers and employers are examples of possible collateral contacts. If you have no paper documentation of who you are, you should ask the SNAP/Food Stamp caseworker to call a collateral contact.
“Homeless households are not required to verify where they live. If you are living in a shelter, however, it may be helpful to bring a letter to the SNAP/Food Stamp office which is written by a shelter employee and says that you are living in the shelter.”
Christine McNamee and Gwen Stahl, at the New Hanover County Division of Social Services, helped with the question on welfare, which North Carolina calls Work First.
They listed 15 documents that could help establish identity for a Work First subject. Applicants need to supply two of these documents to support their claim on N.C. residency:
1. Driver’s license or ID card
2. Rent receipt
3. Utility bill
4. Motor vehicle registration
5. Documentation from an employer
6. Closed bank account or termination of employment from another state
7. Tax records
8. Registration with an employment agency
8. Children’s school records
9. Food stamps/Medicaid documentation
10. Records from health care provider
11. Written declaration from collateral contact
12. Voter registration card
13. VA or military documentation
14. N.C. school records diploma
15. Document from foreign consulate
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Can't they get a friend to run them over to the DMV office to get an ID?
Regarding DMV closures....
From al.com in Alabama
al. com
As it turns out ... Bentley's driver's license closures were racial, after all
Gov. Robert Bentley denied there was any racist intent behind the closure of 31 driver license offices in 2015, but an investigation by the United States Department of Transportation found they adversely impacted majority African-American counties.
By Kyle Whitmire | kwhitmire@al.com
on January 05, 2017 at 11:16 AM, updated January 05, 2017 at 2:23 PM
All you had to do was look at a map to see it.
When the Alabama Law Enforcement Agency announced the closure of 31 driver's license offices in 2015, I printed out a blank map of the state's 67 counties and began coloring in the ones that no longer had a place to get the most common form of photo ID.
Rural Alabama had been hit hard by the closures, but especially the Black Belt -- the region of Alabama that takes its name first from the color of its rich soil but also from the concentration of African-Americans who live there. A few economic development projects aside, the Black Belt has always suffered the worst from Alabama's sins, leaving its citizens with the least means the farthest distance from basic necessities, be it a job, simple trip to a grocery store, utilities like broadband internet.
And now a place to get a driver's license.

[Note: the Alabama DMV has since reopened many of the offices that were closed.]
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from USA.Gov-----An official website of the United States government

Voter ID Requirements
Two-thirds of states request or require that you provide some form of identification before you’re allowed to vote at the polls.
...
Photo ID versus Non-Photo ID
About half of the states with voter ID laws accept only photo IDs, such as driver’s licenses, state-issued ID cards, military ID cards, and passports. Many of these states now offer a free voter photo ID card if you don’t have another form of valid photo ID.

Photo ID in most places is not required for welfare as indicated above.

Loki Loc: Georgia

I would point out that you must be a citizen to vote. Much of the "ID" requirements you mentioned do not establish citizenship. There is a difference between citizen and residence, as much as Liberals would like to deny this.
Regarding welfare and food stamps....

No wonder so many wetbacks receive it, then, in spite of Liberal claims to the contrary. ID theft and fake ID's are a booming business among illegals. I wonder why? According to the last census, there are about 44 million Hispanics in the US today. According to the Obama Administration there are about 11 million illegals, mostly Hispanic. That means that literally nearly one in four Latinos are illegal. Of course, there are places where nearly all are US citizens or legally here. Then there are places like California where illegals tend to concentrate.
I grew up in a place that was majority Latino, and at the time and place, illegals who overstayed the picking season were not thought of kindly by other Latinos.

whitnebrat Loc: In the wilds of Oregon

Loki ... You are correct ... citizenship is not residency.
I was merely pointing out to someone else that you didn't necessarily need a photo ID to get welfare benefits.
Another poster said that you could always get a ride to get an ID. Not necessarily true either. Elderly and disabled people many times cannot leave their homes very easily, and require handicapped access vehicles. In addition, the fees have increased dramatically for these ID's in some places, further reducing the ability of low-income people to obtain them.
The Alabama situation is not unique in what they are trying to do in terms of making it much more difficult for minority, elderly and disabled communities to vote by closing close-in polling places, cutting back on transit service to these areas, and moving voter registration points afar from their ability to get to them.

Loki Loc: Georgia

To the best of my knowledge, most if not all states have absentee ballots and early voting. Georgia, where i live, requires photo ID. Our voter fraud is just about non-existent. Anyway, the problem is not at the polls, it is at registration where slack ID requirements allow onon-eligible voters to register. This almost always accrues to the Democrats' advantage. If it did not, like I said, they would deport every illegal and build a wall using Mexican slave labor if they thought it was worth a few votes.

PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.

whitnebrat Loc: In the wilds of Oregon

Here in Oregon, we have 'motor/voter' registration and mail-in ballots. In order to register to vote or to get a driver's license, you have to produce evidence of citizenship (previous d/l, birth certificate, etc.) In 2013 the legislature tried to get a law passed to allow undocumented aliens to get temporary driver's licenses, but it was blocked in the courts, and eventually overturned by a referendum in 2014. I have heard of no proven cases of voter fraud in the last twenty years here, and I know of only a handful that have been reported nationwide ... which comprise only a minute fraction of the electorate, and never enough to sway an election.
Shifting the subject ever so slightly, would you agree with the president to build a 'great, beautiful, tall wall' on the border' at the cost of billions of dollars and what would you do about undocumented families that have been here for twenty years or more, with one or two generations that are American citizens? Deport the whole bunch or split the family? And what would you do to replace the farm labor, construction manual labor, ranch hands, etc. (not to mention the hotel and restaurant industries in much of the country which depends on that labor?
I know that this is a kindof new topic, but it ties into what we were talking about somewhat. If we need to have a new thread, I'm fine with that.

PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.

Who do you think performed all those jobs before the illegals moved in and took them, for less wages?

whitnebrat Loc: In the wilds of Oregon

The experience in Alabama with the farmers there was somewhat disturbing. They couldn't get enough help to do the picking of crops and had to let them rot in the field. What labor they did get no matter what wage either couldn't pass a drug test or didn't show up again after a day or so of hard work.
I repeat my question ... how do you replace these people? It's obvious that Americans won't do the work...