oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

Surely not mosques. Yep, that is what they can't get in to. In 2011 CAIR and the ACLU went after the government to stop any kind of checking in those places of worship. We know that 80% of the many mosques in this country are constantly pushing for jihad of the destroying and killing kind.

The FBI wasn't allowed to enter the mosque the Boston bombers worshiped at although one of them had screamed during services about jihad. The NSA is not allowed to copy all their communications, either. Why is it that these things happen since the Boston bombing? I can't understand that but methinks it may well have something to do with Obama.

http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/061213-659753-all-intrusive-obama-terror-dragnet-excludes-mosques.htm#ixzz2W6Tu04uJ

straightUp Loc: California

The ACLU sued the FBI in an isolated case because the FBI under the Bush Administration was targeting mosques in violation of the 1st and 4th Amendments. No policies or laws suggesting that mosques should be treated differently than anyone else has been established or even considered. The ACLU would have done the same thing for a Christian community if the government was doing the same thing to them, but they weren't, they were only targeting the mosques.

If you are THAT frightened of terrorists then maybe you think we should change our values and start pledging "Liberty and Justice for Some." But I stand for Liberty and Justice for ALL and that takes courage... something you don't seem to have much of. It means having the courage to let Muslims have as much liberty and privacy as we do. Will that make it easier for the extremists among them to organize terrorist activities? Yes, of course it will. That's why it takes courage.

The Dutchman

Since October 2011, mosques have been off-limits to FBI agents. because the obozo doesn't want his own administration to know what his muslim brotherhood is really up to Eh? No more surveillance or undercover string operations without high-level approval from a special oversight body at the Justice Department dubbed the Sensitive Operations Review Committee.

Who makes up this body, We all know it is made up of the radical muslims sitting in his cabinet! and how do they decide requests? Nobody knows; the names of the chairman, members and staff are kept secret.

straightUp Loc: California

You lie. The FBI can still investigate the people and activity inside mosques but since 2011, any deception used in such investigations have to be approved - same rule applies to any deceptive investigations in a church or a temple or anywhere else.


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Aww... what the matter? Ya gonna cry now because the people you hate can't be targeted by big brother?


You can't even keep your BS straight... first you say we all KNOW who these people are and then you say no one knows, because it's all a secret. LOL.

BTW, The rules for making the decisions are clearly stated in the "Undercover and Sensitive Operations Unit - Attorney General's Guidelines on FBI Undercover Operations"

http://www.justice.gov/ag/readingroom/undercover.htm#operations

There's the link - get someone literate to read it to you.

alex Loc: michigan now imperial beach californa

maybe you could tell me how many christian have been involved in terrorism

straightUp Loc: California

You're asking someone who spent some time in Northern Ireland. Car bombs in public places were the big thing when I was there and every terrorist in the IRA planting those bombs were Christian. In our own country we had terrorists in white robes that went around terrorizing and often killing black people and their families. They even used the symbol of the Christian faith as a fear factor by setting them on fire. On September 11, 1857, a group of Mormons slaughtered 14 American families from Arkansas traveling west through Utah on their way to California. Even in recent years, there have been incidents where Christian conservatives have used bombs to destroy property associated with abortion clinics - like every terrorist, they think they have a just cause, but it's still terrorism.

I could go on, but I think I've made my point.

alex Loc: michigan now imperial beach californa

yep, I think so.

The Dutchman

The Dutchman wrote:
Since October 2011, mosques have been off-limits to FBI agents.

You lie. The FBI can still investigate the people and activity inside mosques but since 2011, any deception used in such investigations have to be approved - same rule applies to any deceptive investigations in a church or a temple or anywhere else.
color=red]And just what did I lie about you faulking liberal moron? Your so stupid you can't even understand who wrote what![/color]
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The Dutchman wrote:

because the obozo doesn't want his own administration to know what his muslim brotherhood is really up to Eh?

The Dutchman wrote:

No more surveillance or undercover string operations without high-level approval from a special oversight body at the Justice Department dubbed the Sensitive Operations Review Committee.

Aww... what the matter? Ya gonna cry now because the people you hate can't be targeted by big brother?
Not being a dumbohfaulking idiot like you I don't cry! & it is my nature to hate my enemies! It's typical of you stupid people not being able to see what this obozo is really doing to this country

The Dutchman wrote:

Who makes up this body, We all know it is made up of the radical muslims sitting in his cabinet! and how do they decide requests? Nobody knows; the names of the chairman, members and staff are kept secret.

You can't even keep your BS straight... first you say we all KNOW who these people are and then you say no one knows, because it's all a secret. LOL.
Your the one that can't keep your shit straight you illiterate misfit! I never said "because it's all a secret" You desperately need someone else to explain these posts to you because your to stupid to understand who posted what!
BTW, The rules for making the decisions are clearly stated in the "Undercover and Sensitive Operations Unit - Attorney General's Guidelines on FBI Undercover Operations"

http://www.justice.gov/ag/readingroom/undercover.htm#operations

There's the link - get someone literate to read it to you.
Look at the date of this thing! It was from a long time ago you dimwit and a lot has changes since your beloved messiah came into play!

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

Since you don't read first posts in threads and therefore fail to read the links maybe I should offer a few paragraphs from it to you and your other Alinskyite people.

Since October 2011, mosques have been off-limits to FBI agents. No more surveillance or undercover string operations without high-level approval from a special oversight body at the Justice Department dubbed the Sensitive Operations Review Committee.

Who makes up this body, and how do they decide requests? Nobody knows; the names of the chairman, members and staff are kept secret.

We do know the panel was set up under pressure from Islamist groups who complained about FBI stings at mosques. Just months before the panel's formation, the Council on American-Islamic Relations teamed up with the ACLU to sue the FBI for allegedly violating the civil rights of Muslims in Los Angeles by hiring an undercover agent to infiltrate and monitor mosques there.

Before mosques were excluded from the otherwise wide domestic spy net the administration has cast, the FBI launched dozens of successful sting operations against homegrown jihadists — inside mosques — and disrupted dozens of plots against the homeland.
If only they were allowed to continue, perhaps the many victims of the Boston Marathon bombings would not have lost their lives and limbs.

The FBI never canvassed Boston mosques until four days after the April 15 attacks, and it did not check out the radical Boston mosque where the Muslim bombers worshipped.

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

I will read your link to The Dutchman just as soon as you prove that you really read my link to start this thread. Can you do that for me? :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

I finally got to see just where your link came from when The Dutchman provided it and its approximate age to us.

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

The point you made to me is that you really don't think that Muslim terrorists are so bad, after all. All the examples you gave were right, I think, but I don't really know if there were any atheists involved in Ireland or the KKK. Do you have any numbers of such?

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

I am sure glad you clicked on that link since I was sure it was just what it turned out to be and do wonder if 22 years isn't a very long time. Nearly as long as the 68 years grazeem talks about and I think that 69 years is a bit closer. They are having a ball it seems.

The Dutchman

Once again Old Roy we're just pissing in the wind trying to communicate with these totally usless useful idiots. They're just walking talking dildos.....

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

I always wondered just what useful idiots were and now you have told me.

straightUp Loc: California

There may have been a "few" atheists among them, but it's not like the KKK insisted that their members fill out census forms. Do you think atheists would incorporate Christian symbols on their white robes, or make references to "good Christians" in their public speeches or use burning crosses in their ceremonies? Also, the KKK flourished in the Bible Belt at a time when atheism was hardly known. As for the IRA, the very basis for much of their identity is being Roman Catholic and at war with Protestants. Kind of hard to imagine an atheist having much to do with it.

You asked me if I could even identify any Christian terrorists, implying that terrorism is something Christians don't do. Well, I answered your question.

And no, that doesn't mean I think Muslim terrorists aren't so bad. How you get that from my reference to Christian terrorists is beyond me.