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Dec 12, 2017 22:53:46   #
PeterS
 
JFlorio wrote:
Racism is your go to word. You use it when you can’t win a debate or someone disagrees with you. The left, in my opinion is much more racist. You guys listen to liberal whites who say they promote equality by keeping minorities in inner city cess pools while all the while living in gated communities. You fools even swooned over Obama because he was down with the people. He was going to punish the bad white bankers and Wall Streeters. Guess how many his Justice dept. put in jail. Guess who he hangs out with. Guess who he gives speeches to for millions. You wewe played but go on, keep being played. It’s what you’re good at.
Racism is your go to word. You use it when you can... (show quote)

My go word? And yes, racists usually do think it's the other guys who's racist but I didn't vote for a guy who make his political name on a bogus chase of Obama's birth certificate nor by labeling all Mexicans killers or all Muslims terrorists and then there unnatural attraction that Trump seems to have for the KKK and the Neo-Nazi's. So yeah, liberals can be racist but as throughout history it's you conservatives who are always trying to conserve our historical past who just naturally migrate to racism to do it. Like Roy Moore said--America was greatest when them darkies were in shackles and working your fields. Yeah, conservatives and racism go together like peas and carrots or make that Black eyed peas and Carrots...

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Dec 12, 2017 23:14:35   #
alabuck Loc: Tennessee
 
RETW wrote:
Oh please, if your going to converse in the realm of a 7 grader, Come back after you graduate.

Than we can have a adult conservation. You simply don't know what you're talking about.


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Well, if you think this conversation is on a 7th grade level, just how high are you wanting to go? I was trying to keep it simple for you. But, instead of replying with anything with substance, you, again, reply with insults. Like I said before, if you can’t win with facts, and, instead, resort to insults, you’ve already lost the debate.

You may as well call it a night, RETW. You don’t have a clue as to what you’re trying to say or even what you’re talking about. In fact, you lack a whole lot, knowing even a little bit, about anything. Your responsive posts prove it to one and all.

Tell me, what is you religious affiliation? Do you even have one? From a previous post of yours, you don’t agree with a Biblical approach to ownership of money. Given your posted attitudes about ”ownership,” I’ll bet you never were any good at sharing your toys; were you?

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Dec 12, 2017 23:37:32   #
EconomistDon
 
alabuck wrote:
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You statement is not necessarily true. The economy was improving BEFORE Trumpet took office. He’s simply rode the coat-tails of Obama’s economic policies. He knows it, too, but he’ll never admit to it, just as you wouldn’t.

If you were familiar with how big business plans their production of goods and services, you’d know that they plan ahead about 2-3 years. So, any improvement in our economy was predicated on events 2-3 years ago. That would make it long before Trumpet arrived on the scene, to take credit for it, now.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but that’s simply Econ 101.
—————— br br You statement is not necessarily tru... (show quote)


Sorry Buck, the economic delay is 6 to 9 months, not 2-3 years. And that relates to federal stimuli suck as tax cuts and money infusions such as Quantitative Easing. Stimuli that Trump has given us can have positive effects much faster. Even before Trump took office, he worked to stop movement of major businesses from America to offshore locations, and he convinced others to return to America. In fact, Trump's election win convinced many businesses to ramp up operations on the promise of a return to Laissez faire - substantial reductions in federal regulations. This is particularly significant in the energy industry. Coal production jumped almost immediately. This rapid reaction in the business community was reflected in the huge run-up in stock prices after the election as the market anticipated great economic times to come.

Buck, the great things that are happening in business, jobs, and the stock market are due to Trump. I'm sorry if that upsets you, but it is true.

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Dec 12, 2017 23:50:46   #
Morgan
 
byronglimish wrote:
Please allow me to clear this up, beyond the shadow of doubt... I are a country family with generations of doin...and just like the Black people don't like to hear a White Man say "nigga" we the White People won't abide a Black man using "okie doke" in a unbecoming fashion...and just as the Black people have the absolute right to not be talked to like that...a proud White Man has the unchallenged right to not be described as a old expression used amongst us...thanks ...no offense intended for all...
Please allow me to clear this up, beyond the shado... (show quote)


Words are interesting, one would think that they are stable and fixed but they are not, they are fluid with time, they can change in connotation or even definition, especially by generation, which is why there can be misunderstandings and different interpretations, take the word "gay" for example, and Okie-dokie. I've never consider it an offense only a fun way to say yes, but apparently it can be an offense to some. Presently I've been reading there is a new definition to the word fascist, this seems to muddy the waters and has been leading to confusion in accusations. Something to consider, we could all hang up these bias slurs and be more respectful of each other, everywhere, or is that just too idealistic?

No offense taken and I hope I've made myself a little bit more clear.

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Dec 13, 2017 00:02:31   #
RETW Loc: Washington
 
emarine wrote:
Yes you made 50 million by employing 2000 people working part time @ 8 bux an hour with no benefits... these people work hard for their money & have no disposable income ... living on less than 1k per Mo... they pay rent, electric & eat... maybe they own a car if they can afford the fuel & insurance... if they get sick they are screwed from loss of wages now that there won't be health care they can afford... In a United country of moral people who should pay more?... The guy making 50 million from the labor he profits from or the people who work hard to survive... The tax money you payout belongs to the Nation once you write the checks its no longer yours... it belongs to a Nation of people & infrastructure we all share as The United States of America... quit bitchin & be thankful you don't work for someone like you...
Yes you made 50 million by employing 2000 people w... (show quote)




Ok, so let me lead you by the hand down the road to some knowledge. Please follow along closely, because I find it very tedious explaining fundamentals to adults.

You and these so called employees you talk about, have had the same opportunity in life as I.

Probably more so because my family was very poor. And I grew up at the later part of the great depression. And I had to quite grade school to help earn money for the family. ( Eat or starve as it were.) But I got my GED a few years later. Spent a stent in the Army. Was sent to Korea. There I learned two very important life's lessons. # 1 and most important, there is a God, and #2 Never take life for granted, for it can be taken away from you in the blink of an eye.

Now you talk a lot about what these employees have or don't have. And just out of the blue, you assume It is because of me they are earning a small wage. You know nothing about me, or what kind of an employer I was. And I am not going to debate that with you. For that is none of your business.

But I will tell you this. After returning state side, and home. I worked near 6 days a week. And some times, two jobs at a time for many years. That work ethic was instilled in me by my father. Who happened to be a logger, back in what they call the Alliegash river country in the state of Maine. So don't go down the road, of me not knowing what work is all about. And I was determined to never let my family know what hunger was all about. Or cold sleepless nights just trying to stay worm until dawn.

Now these poor employees you speak of had the same opportunity I had. And in most cases they had it much better. For most of them never new what war was about. And not one had any idea what life was like in the depression. All had a diploma or degree of one form or another. Yet you blame me for there spending habits, or there lot in life. Ever here of saving money for what you want?

Now I don't know what your status in life is now, or has been in the past. But know this, free is not free.
No one owes you or any one a living. And your wealth in life is determined by the amount of knowledge and work you put into it. And no one ever got financially sound by complaining about the other guy.

You want more, get up off your ass, learn something and work for it.
There is no shortcut for success.

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Dec 13, 2017 00:12:35   #
RETW Loc: Washington
 
alabuck wrote:
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Well, if you think this conversation is on a 7th grade level, just how high are you wanting to go? I was trying to keep it simple for you. But, instead of replying with anything with substance, you, again, reply with insults. Like I said before, if you can’t win with facts, and, instead, resort to insults, you’ve already lost the debate.

You may as well call it a night, RETW. You don’t have a clue as to what you’re trying to say or even what you’re talking about. In fact, you lack a whole lot, knowing even a little bit, about anything. Your responsive posts prove it to one and all.

Tell me, what is you religious affiliation? Do you even have one? From a previous post of yours, you don’t agree with a Biblical approach to ownership of money. Given your posted attitudes about ”ownership,” I’ll bet you never were any good at sharing your toys; were you?
————- br br Well, if you think this conversation ... (show quote)



There was no insult intended. You post are full of " I think, or I guess, or perhaps, or it could be's,
or just straight out lies. My intention was not to insult 7th graders. You talk as if the subject you are discussing, was direct first hand knowledge, because you were there. And that is a lie any way you want to fashion it.

Enough with the BS.

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Dec 13, 2017 00:37:28   #
E
 
PeterS wrote:
No one has a right to another persons income but we all pay taxes and once paid they belong to the government not us. If you can't deal with taxes then as I've been telling all the conservatives on this board that Somalia has no government and no taxes. It's a down right conservative Utopia. And what's even better is that everyone there carries a gun and knows how to use one plus fully automatic weapons are a must and heavily recommended. Now I saved the best for last--if you guys all book at once on Somalia Airways you can get a discount and up grade to first class! So book now and if you leave by the first of the year you can homestead the first ten acres you run across that doesn't have any dead bodies on it. Yeeesss sir, it's a steal just waiting for you conservatives...
No one has a right to another persons income but w... (show quote)


Now that is proof that this guy is certifiably off his rocker. Comparing Conservatism to Somalia. Come on. Nobody is that unintelligent.

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Dec 13, 2017 01:04:27   #
RETW Loc: Washington
 
Morgan wrote:
Niggard is a racial slant, Okey-Dokey, is someone just saying OK... being complacent, how do you justify comparing the two?



Splitting hairs again I see. Niggard is mostly used to enplane very cheap. It is you that is putting
bias on the word.

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Dec 13, 2017 01:19:41   #
RETW Loc: Washington
 
E wrote:
Now that is proof that this guy is certifiably off his rocker. Comparing Conservatism to Somalia. Come on. Nobody is that unintelligent.




He is

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Dec 13, 2017 01:28:51   #
E
 
RETW wrote:
He is


I stand corrected.

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Dec 13, 2017 01:32:15   #
RETW Loc: Washington
 
PeterS wrote:
Smoking Crack again? How do you figure you are paying 50 to 60 cents in personal income taxes?



Again you miss the mark. For it was Nickolai .... one of your very own.... who stated, he "pays 50-60 % The rest I pay to live in a civilized society. Perhaps you should go to bedie-by. You might wake up refreshed, and better able to take on the world, and slay your dragons.

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Dec 13, 2017 01:42:10   #
kcstargoat
 
Nickolai wrote:
I was told by an evangelical he only wanted to be with people wo thought like he did I have a favorite cousin I played with as toddlers and young boys who is an evangelical who will not speak to me and other relatives who are stand offish and in laws who will not speak and make it clear they wish not to be around me once they discovered I was a liberal and an atheist even though we had been friendly for 30 years until I was accidently outed. I would be happy to continue our friendship but not them Now aday's they see me as of the devil
I was told by an evangelical he only wanted to be ... (show quote)


I am a Constitutional conservative and an atheist. I probably have more friends than you because I don't discuss religion with anybody but my atheist cousins and brother. All other people know is that I'm not very religious and don't attend church. Amazing how well placed words work. I am honest and don't have to listen to or read a lecture on Jesus Christ and God. And Heaven - what a crock!

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Dec 13, 2017 01:43:57   #
RETW Loc: Washington
 
archie bunker wrote:
See?




Yes Arch, I do see. And I have for quite some time.

By the by. I hope you and yours will have a good night. I'm getting ready to pack it in for tonight.

At my age, I have learned the benefit of a glass of warm milk before bed. A dash of Cinnamon
and I'm good to go.

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Dec 13, 2017 03:44:40   #
Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ
 
PeterS wrote:
My go word? And yes, racists usually do think it's the other guys who's racist but I didn't vote for a guy who make his political name on a bogus chase of Obama's birth certificate nor by labeling all Mexicans killers or all Muslims terrorists and then there unnatural attraction that Trump seems to have for the KKK and the Neo-Nazi's. So yeah, liberals can be racist but as throughout history it's you conservatives who are always trying to conserve our historical past who just naturally migrate to racism to do it. Like Roy Moore said--America was greatest when them darkies were in shackles and working your fields. Yeah, conservatives and racism go together like peas and carrots or make that Black eyed peas and Carrots...
My go word? And yes, racists usually do think it's... (show quote)


Pete what happened to you? What happened to all of you?

I firmly believe that Neither the Trump supporters who post here, nor the anti-Trump supporters actually know why they fight each other. After hundreds of pages of posts, I have come to the realization that you people are out and out right crazy!

What do you really know of Donald J. Trump? I mean really. There have been so many stories about the man, that I can't believe any of them. There was so many false witnesses that stood against Trump and none of them ever brought it into a court of law.

How long are you guys going to waste knowledge and intellect on such a crazy notion. Every complaint is a "He said, She said" complaint. If you guys want to continue to discuss fantasy, keep it up. The Washington post is as real as a production of George Lucas or Steven Spielberg. "Days of Our Lives", "One Life to Live", "Dallas", "Dynasty", and other soap operas have been replaced by "Ooooo look at what Donald Trump said, or tweeted"

Quit it! Those of us who voted for Donald Trump knew Damn well, that he was not a politican or a pretty boy. We knew damn well, that if we sent a person, who is the opposite in all ways to Obama and the sexist Bill Clinton, that you people's heads would explode. But in the meantime, while you people are soooooooooo distracted at the distraction you created all by yourself, by hating a person without knowing them first, great strides would be made.

Reality Check. The United States economy is growing at record strides. Americans are going back to work. Life is getting better. But noooooooooo how can this be. Bush, Clinton, Bush, and Obama gave us more red tape, that was causing Americans to fail. Trump released us from that burden. But all you liberals can say, is he is racist, sexist, etc. Do you not understand that Trump is breaking the monopoly of the establishment? Or are you all just blind?

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Dec 13, 2017 03:51:33   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
Ranger7374 wrote:
Pete what happened to you? What happened to all of you?

I firmly believe that Neither the Trump supporters who post here, nor the anti-Trump supporters actually know why they fight each other. After hundreds of pages of posts, I have come to the realization that you people are out and out right crazy!

What do you really know of Donald J. Trump? I mean really. There have been so many stories about the man, that I can't believe any of them. There was so many false witnesses that stood against Trump and none of them ever brought it into a court of law.

How long are you guys going to waste knowledge and intellect on such a crazy notion. Every complaint is a "He said, She said" complaint. If you guys want to continue to discuss fantasy, keep it up. The Washington post is as real as a production of George Lucas or Steven Spielberg. "Days of Our Lives", "One Life to Live", "Dallas", "Dynasty", and other soap operas have been replaced by "Ooooo look at what Donald Trump said, or tweeted"

Quit it! Those of us who voted for Donald Trump knew Damn well, that he was not a politican or a pretty boy. We knew damn well, that if we sent a person, who is the opposite in all ways to Obama and the sexist Bill Clinton, that you people's heads would explode. But in the meantime, while you people are soooooooooo distracted at the distraction you created all by yourself, by hating a person without knowing them first, great strides would be made.

Reality Check. The United States economy is growing at record strides. Americans are going back to work. Life is getting better. But noooooooooo how can this be. Bush, Clinton, Bush, and Obama gave us more red tape, that was causing Americans to fail. Trump released us from that burden. But all you liberals can say, is he is racist, sexist, etc. Do you not understand that Trump is breaking the monopoly of the establishment? Or are you all just blind?
Pete what happened to you? What happened to all of... (show quote)

Thank you so much for this post!!!! Couldnt of said better myself

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