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Dec 4, 2017 09:31:47   #
amadjuster Loc: Texas Panhandle
 
payne1000 wrote:
Google defines DOF as an abbreviation of the photographic term "Depth of Field."
If I applied that term to you, I would say you have a very shallow depth of field . . . which indicates most of what you see is out of focus.


Wrong again! This term totally fits you Larry. “DOF” means “Demented Old Fart”. I’ll bet many others here will agree.

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Dec 4, 2017 09:34:14   #
emarine
 
payne1000 wrote:
Can you back up your 11 million lie with more than one source who is not Jewish?



already have 10 times... look it up & do the math or just believe Daniel Pipes or this Swedish partner who's not Jewish who simply did the math for you...

Staggering Statistics on Muslims Killing Muslims
Posted on April 18, 2013 by Admin
16 Comments
“Some 11,000,000 Muslims have been violently killed since 1948, of which 35,000, or 0.3 percent, died during the sixty years of fighting Israel, or just 1 out of every 315 Muslim fatalities. In contrast, over 90 percent of the 11 million who perished were killed by fellow Muslims.”
Arab-Israeli Fatalities Rank 49th
By Gunnar Heinsohn and Daniel Pipes, FrontPageMagazine, October 8, 2007
The Arab-Israeli conflict is often said, not just by extremists, to be the world’s most dangerous conflict – and, accordingly, Israel is judged the world’s most belligerent country.
For example, British prime minister Tony Blair told the U.S. Congress in July 2003 that “Terrorism will not be defeated without peace in the Middle East between Israel and Palestine. Here it is that the poison is incubated. Here it is that the extremist is able to confuse in the mind of a frighteningly large number of people the case for a Palestinian state and the destruction of Israel.”
This viewpoint leads many Europeans, among others, to see Israel as the most menacing country on earth.
But is this true? It flies in the face of the well-known pattern that liberal democracies do not aggress; plus, it assumes, wrongly, that the Arab-Israeli conflict is among the most costly in terms of lives lost.
To place the Arab-Israeli fatalities in their proper context, one of the two co-authors, Gunnar Heinsohn, has compiled statistics to rank conflicts since 1950 by the number of human deaths incurred. Note how far down the list is the entry in bold type.
Conflicts since 1950 with over 10,000 Fatalities*
1.  40,000,000 Red China, 1949-76 (outright killing, manmade famine, Gulag)
2.  10,000,000 Soviet Bloc: late Stalinism, 1950-53; post-Stalinism, to 1987 (mostly Gulag)
3.  4,000,000 Ethiopia, 1962-92: Communists, artificial hunger, genocides
4.  3,800,000 Zaire (Congo-Kinshasa): 1967-68; 1977-78; 1992-95; 1998-present
5.  2,800,000 Korean war, 1950-53
6.  1,900,000 Sudan, 1955-72; 1983-2006 (civil wars, genocides)
7.  1,870,000 Cambodia: Khmer Rouge 1975-79; civil war 1978-91
8 1,800,000 Vietnam War, 1954-75
9.  1,800,000 Afghanistan: Soviet and internecine killings, Taliban 1980-2001
10.  1,250,000 West Pakistan massacres in East Pakistan (Bangladesh 1971)
11.  1,100,000 Nigeria, 1966-79 (Biafra); 1993-present
12.  1,100,000 Mozambique, 1964-70 (30,000) + after retreat of Portugal 1976-92
13.  1,000,000 Iran-Iraq-War, 1980-88
14.  900,000 Rwanda genocide, 1994
15.  875,000 Algeria: against France 1954-62 (675,000); between Islamists and the government 1991-2006 (200,000)
16.  850,000 Uganda, 1971-79; 1981-85; 1994-present
17.  650,000 Indonesia: Marxists 1965-66 (450,000); East Timor, Papua, Aceh etc, 1969-present (200,000)
18.  580,000 Angola: war against Portugal 1961-72 (80,000); after Portugal’s retreat (1972-2002)
19.  500,000 Brazil against its Indians, up to 1999
20.  430,000 Vietnam, after the war ended in 1975 (own people; boat refugees)
21.  400,000 Indochina: against France, 1945-54
22.  400,000 Burundi, 1959-present (Tutsi/Hutu)
23.  400,000 Somalia, 1991-present
24.  400,000 North Korea up to 2006 (own people)
25.  300,000 Kurds in Iraq, Iran, Turkey, 1980s-1990s
26.  300,000 Iraq, 1970-2003 (Saddam against minorities)
27.  240,000 Columbia, 1946-58; 1964-present
28.  200,000 Yugoslavia, Tito regime, 1944-80
29.  200,000 Guatemala, 1960-96
30.  190,000 Laos, 1975-90
31.  175,000 Serbia against Croatia, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Kosovo, 1991-1999
32.  150,000 Romania, 1949-99 (own people)
33.  150,000 Liberia, 1989-97
34.  140,000 Russia against Chechnya, 1994-present
35.  150,000 Lebanon civil war, 1975-90
36.  140,000 Kuwait War, 1990-91
37.  130,000 Philippines: 1946-54 (10,000); 1972-present (120,000)
38.  130,000 Burma/Myanmar, 1948-present
39.  100,000 North Yemen, 1962-70
40.  100,000 Sierra Leone, 1991-present
41.  100,000 Albania, 1945-91 (own people)
42.  80,000 Iran, 1978-79 (revolution)
43.  75,000 Iraq, 2003-present (domestic)
44.  75,000 El Salvador, 1975-92
45.  70,000 Eritrea against Ethiopia, 1998-2000
46.  68,000 Sri Lanka, 1997-present
47.  60,000 Zimbabwe, 1966-79; 1980-present
48.  60,000 Nicaragua, 1972-91 (Marxists/natives etc,)
49.  51,000 Arab-Israeli conflict 1950-present
50.  50,000 North Vietnam, 1954-75 (own people)
51.  50,000 Tajikistan, 1992-96 (secularists against Islamists)
52.  50,000 Equatorial Guinea, 1969-79
53.  50,000 Peru, 1980-2000
54.  50,000 Guinea, 1958-84
55.  40,000 Chad, 1982-90
56.  30,000 Bulgaria, 1948-89 (own people)
57.  30,000 Rhodesia, 1972-79
58.  30,000 Argentina, 1976-83 (own people)
59.  27,000 Hungary, 1948-89 (own people)
60.  26,000 Kashmir independence, 1989-present
61.  25,000 Jordan government vs. Palestinians, 1970-71 (Black September)
62.  22,000 Poland, 1948-89 (own people)
63.  20,000 Syria, 1982 (against Islamists in Hama)
64.  20,000 Chinese-Vietnamese war, 1979
65.  19,000 Morocco: war against France, 1953-56 (3,000) and in Western Sahara, 1975-present (16,000)
66.  18,000 Congo Republic, 1997-99
67.  10,000 South Yemen, 1986 (civil war)
_______________________________
*All figures rounded. Sources: Brzezinski, Z., Out of Control: Global Turmoil on the Eve of the Twenty-first Century, 1993; Courtois, S., Le Livre Noir du Communism, 1997; Heinsohn, G., Lexikon der Völkermorde, 1999, 2nd ed.; Heinsohn, G., Söhne und Weltmacht, 2006, 8th ed.; Rummel. R., Death by Government, 1994; Small, M. and Singer, J.D., Resort to Arms: International and Civil Wars 1816-1980, 1982; White, M., “Death Tolls for the Major Wars and Atrocities of the Twentieth Century,” 2003.
This grisly inventory finds the total number of deaths in conflicts since 1950 numbering about 85,000,000. Of that sum, the deaths in the Arab-Israeli conflict since 1950 include 32,000 deaths due to Arab state attacks and 19,000 due to Palestinian attacks, or 51,000 in all. Arabs make up roughly 35,000 of these dead and Jewish Israelis make up 16,000.
These figures mean that deaths Arab-Israeli fighting since 1950 amount to just 0.06 percent of the total number of deaths in all conflicts in that period. More graphically, only 1 out of about 1,700 persons killed in conflicts since 1950 has died due to Arab-Israeli fighting.
(Adding the 11,000 killed in the Israeli war of independence, 1947-49, made up of 5,000 Arabs and 6,000 Israeli Jews, does not significantly alter these figures.)
In a different perspective, some 11,000,000 Muslims have been violently killed since 1948, of which 35,000, or 0.3 percent, died during the sixty years of fighting Israel, or just 1 out of every 315 Muslim fatalities. In contrast, over 90 percent of the 11 million who perished were killed by fellow Muslims.
Comments: (1) Despite the relative non-lethality of the Arab-Israeli conflict, its renown, notoriety, complexity, and diplomatic centrality will probably give it continued out-sized importance in the global imagination. And Israel’s reputation will continue to pay the price. (2) Still, it helps to point out the 1-in-1,700 statistic as a corrective, in the hope that one day, this reality will register, permitting the Arab-Israeli conflict to subside to its rightful, lesser place in world politics.
Professor Heinsohn is director of the Raphael-Lemkin

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Dec 4, 2017 09:39:22   #
emarine
 
payne1000 wrote:
Paid shills hide their identities.
My name is Larry Payne.
What's your real name?




Show me your tax return larry payne to prove you're in fact not a paid shill sharing some of that Iranian propaganda money we gave back for no good reason.... you do pay tax?...

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Dec 4, 2017 10:46:10   #
payne1000
 
amadjuster wrote:
Wrong again! This term totally fits you Larry. “DOF” means “Demented Old Fart”. I’ll bet many others here will agree.


Readers can look you up on Facebook, David Parsons, to see an actual demented old fart.

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Dec 4, 2017 10:54:41   #
payne1000
 
emarine wrote:
already have 10 times... look it up & do the math or just believe Daniel Pipes or this Swedish partner who's not Jewish who simply did the math for you...

Staggering Statistics on Muslims Killing Muslims
Posted on April 18, 2013 by Admin
16 Comments
“Some 11,000,000 Muslims have been violently killed since 1948, of which 35,000, or 0.3 percent, died during the sixty years of fighting Israel, or just 1 out of every 315 Muslim fatalities. In contrast, over 90 percent of the 11 million who perished were killed by fellow Muslims.”
Arab-Israeli Fatalities Rank 49th
By Gunnar Heinsohn and Daniel Pipes, FrontPageMagazine, October 8, 2007
The Arab-Israeli conflict is often said, not just by extremists, to be the world’s most dangerous conflict – and, accordingly, Israel is judged the world’s most belligerent country.
For example, British prime minister Tony Blair told the U.S. Congress in July 2003 that “Terrorism will not be defeated without peace in the Middle East between Israel and Palestine. Here it is that the poison is incubated. Here it is that the extremist is able to confuse in the mind of a frighteningly large number of people the case for a Palestinian state and the destruction of Israel.”
This viewpoint leads many Europeans, among others, to see Israel as the most menacing country on earth.
But is this true? It flies in the face of the well-known pattern that liberal democracies do not aggress; plus, it assumes, wrongly, that the Arab-Israeli conflict is among the most costly in terms of lives lost.
To place the Arab-Israeli fatalities in their proper context, one of the two co-authors, Gunnar Heinsohn, has compiled statistics to rank conflicts since 1950 by the number of human deaths incurred. Note how far down the list is the entry in bold type.
Conflicts since 1950 with over 10,000 Fatalities*
1.  40,000,000 Red China, 1949-76 (outright killing, manmade famine, Gulag)
2.  10,000,000 Soviet Bloc: late Stalinism, 1950-53; post-Stalinism, to 1987 (mostly Gulag)
3.  4,000,000 Ethiopia, 1962-92: Communists, artificial hunger, genocides
4.  3,800,000 Zaire (Congo-Kinshasa): 1967-68; 1977-78; 1992-95; 1998-present
5.  2,800,000 Korean war, 1950-53
6.  1,900,000 Sudan, 1955-72; 1983-2006 (civil wars, genocides)
7.  1,870,000 Cambodia: Khmer Rouge 1975-79; civil war 1978-91
8 1,800,000 Vietnam War, 1954-75
9.  1,800,000 Afghanistan: Soviet and internecine killings, Taliban 1980-2001
10.  1,250,000 West Pakistan massacres in East Pakistan (Bangladesh 1971)
11.  1,100,000 Nigeria, 1966-79 (Biafra); 1993-present
12.  1,100,000 Mozambique, 1964-70 (30,000) + after retreat of Portugal 1976-92
13.  1,000,000 Iran-Iraq-War, 1980-88
14.  900,000 Rwanda genocide, 1994
15.  875,000 Algeria: against France 1954-62 (675,000); between Islamists and the government 1991-2006 (200,000)
16.  850,000 Uganda, 1971-79; 1981-85; 1994-present
17.  650,000 Indonesia: Marxists 1965-66 (450,000); East Timor, Papua, Aceh etc, 1969-present (200,000)
18.  580,000 Angola: war against Portugal 1961-72 (80,000); after Portugal’s retreat (1972-2002)
19.  500,000 Brazil against its Indians, up to 1999
20.  430,000 Vietnam, after the war ended in 1975 (own people; boat refugees)
21.  400,000 Indochina: against France, 1945-54
22.  400,000 Burundi, 1959-present (Tutsi/Hutu)
23.  400,000 Somalia, 1991-present
24.  400,000 North Korea up to 2006 (own people)
25.  300,000 Kurds in Iraq, Iran, Turkey, 1980s-1990s
26.  300,000 Iraq, 1970-2003 (Saddam against minorities)
27.  240,000 Columbia, 1946-58; 1964-present
28.  200,000 Yugoslavia, Tito regime, 1944-80
29.  200,000 Guatemala, 1960-96
30.  190,000 Laos, 1975-90
31.  175,000 Serbia against Croatia, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Kosovo, 1991-1999
32.  150,000 Romania, 1949-99 (own people)
33.  150,000 Liberia, 1989-97
34.  140,000 Russia against Chechnya, 1994-present
35.  150,000 Lebanon civil war, 1975-90
36.  140,000 Kuwait War, 1990-91
37.  130,000 Philippines: 1946-54 (10,000); 1972-present (120,000)
38.  130,000 Burma/Myanmar, 1948-present
39.  100,000 North Yemen, 1962-70
40.  100,000 Sierra Leone, 1991-present
41.  100,000 Albania, 1945-91 (own people)
42.  80,000 Iran, 1978-79 (revolution)
43.  75,000 Iraq, 2003-present (domestic)
44.  75,000 El Salvador, 1975-92
45.  70,000 Eritrea against Ethiopia, 1998-2000
46.  68,000 Sri Lanka, 1997-present
47.  60,000 Zimbabwe, 1966-79; 1980-present
48.  60,000 Nicaragua, 1972-91 (Marxists/natives etc,)
49.  51,000 Arab-Israeli conflict 1950-present
50.  50,000 North Vietnam, 1954-75 (own people)
51.  50,000 Tajikistan, 1992-96 (secularists against Islamists)
52.  50,000 Equatorial Guinea, 1969-79
53.  50,000 Peru, 1980-2000
54.  50,000 Guinea, 1958-84
55.  40,000 Chad, 1982-90
56.  30,000 Bulgaria, 1948-89 (own people)
57.  30,000 Rhodesia, 1972-79
58.  30,000 Argentina, 1976-83 (own people)
59.  27,000 Hungary, 1948-89 (own people)
60.  26,000 Kashmir independence, 1989-present
61.  25,000 Jordan government vs. Palestinians, 1970-71 (Black September)
62.  22,000 Poland, 1948-89 (own people)
63.  20,000 Syria, 1982 (against Islamists in Hama)
64.  20,000 Chinese-Vietnamese war, 1979
65.  19,000 Morocco: war against France, 1953-56 (3,000) and in Western Sahara, 1975-present (16,000)
66.  18,000 Congo Republic, 1997-99
67.  10,000 South Yemen, 1986 (civil war)
_______________________________
*All figures rounded. Sources: Brzezinski, Z., Out of Control: Global Turmoil on the Eve of the Twenty-first Century, 1993; Courtois, S., Le Livre Noir du Communism, 1997; Heinsohn, G., Lexikon der Völkermorde, 1999, 2nd ed.; Heinsohn, G., Söhne und Weltmacht, 2006, 8th ed.; Rummel. R., Death by Government, 1994; Small, M. and Singer, J.D., Resort to Arms: International and Civil Wars 1816-1980, 1982; White, M., “Death Tolls for the Major Wars and Atrocities of the Twentieth Century,” 2003.
This grisly inventory finds the total number of deaths in conflicts since 1950 numbering about 85,000,000. Of that sum, the deaths in the Arab-Israeli conflict since 1950 include 32,000 deaths due to Arab state attacks and 19,000 due to Palestinian attacks, or 51,000 in all. Arabs make up roughly 35,000 of these dead and Jewish Israelis make up 16,000.
These figures mean that deaths Arab-Israeli fighting since 1950 amount to just 0.06 percent of the total number of deaths in all conflicts in that period. More graphically, only 1 out of about 1,700 persons killed in conflicts since 1950 has died due to Arab-Israeli fighting.
(Adding the 11,000 killed in the Israeli war of independence, 1947-49, made up of 5,000 Arabs and 6,000 Israeli Jews, does not significantly alter these figures.)
In a different perspective, some 11,000,000 Muslims have been violently killed since 1948, of which 35,000, or 0.3 percent, died during the sixty years of fighting Israel, or just 1 out of every 315 Muslim fatalities. In contrast, over 90 percent of the 11 million who perished were killed by fellow Muslims.
Comments: (1) Despite the relative non-lethality of the Arab-Israeli conflict, its renown, notoriety, complexity, and diplomatic centrality will probably give it continued out-sized importance in the global imagination. And Israel’s reputation will continue to pay the price. (2) Still, it helps to point out the 1-in-1,700 statistic as a corrective, in the hope that one day, this reality will register, permitting the Arab-Israeli conflict to subside to its rightful, lesser place in world politics.
Professor Heinsohn is director of the Raphael-Lemkin
already have 10 times... look it up & do the m... (show quote)


Daniel Pipes is one of the most prolific Zionist propagandists. It does not matter who his partner is. Anyone associated with him is a Zionist propagandist as well . . . just as you are.

"In The Nation, Brooklyn writer Kristine McNeil describes Pipes as an "anti-Arab propagandist" who has built a career out of "distortions... twisting words, quoting people out of context and stretching the truth to suit his purpose". James Zogby argues that Pipes possesses an "obsessive hatred of all things Muslim", and that "Pipes is to Muslims what David Duke is to African-Americans". Christopher Hitchens, a fellow supporter of the Iraq War and critic of political Islam, also criticized Pipes, arguing that Pipes pursued an intolerant agenda, and was one who "confuses scholarship with propaganda", and "pursues petty vendettas with scant regard for objectivity"." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Pipes

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Dec 4, 2017 11:00:16   #
payne1000
 
emarine wrote:
Show me your tax return larry payne to prove you're in fact not a paid shill sharing some of that Iranian propaganda money we gave back for no good reason.... you do pay tax?...


I haven't asked you to show your tax return. I've only asked you to reveal your identity as evidence that you aren't a shill.
Since you obviously are a shill and cannot remain a shill if your identity is known, the only tactic left for you is to falsely attack my character.

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Dec 4, 2017 11:05:34   #
payne1000
 
emarine wrote:
already have 10 times... look it up & do the math or just believe Daniel Pipes or this Swedish partner who's not Jewish who simply did the math for you...

Staggering Statistics on Muslims Killing Muslims
Posted on April 18, 2013 by Admin
16 Comments
“Some 11,000,000 Muslims have been violently killed since 1948, of which 35,000, or 0.3 percent, died during the sixty years of fighting Israel, or just 1 out of every 315 Muslim fatalities. In contrast, over 90 percent of the 11 million who perished were killed by fellow Muslims.”
Arab-Israeli Fatalities Rank 49th
By Gunnar Heinsohn and Daniel Pipes, FrontPageMagazine, October 8, 2007
The Arab-Israeli conflict is often said, not just by extremists, to be the world’s most dangerous conflict – and, accordingly, Israel is judged the world’s most belligerent country.
For example, British prime minister Tony Blair told the U.S. Congress in July 2003 that “Terrorism will not be defeated without peace in the Middle East between Israel and Palestine. Here it is that the poison is incubated. Here it is that the extremist is able to confuse in the mind of a frighteningly large number of people the case for a Palestinian state and the destruction of Israel.”
This viewpoint leads many Europeans, among others, to see Israel as the most menacing country on earth.
But is this true? It flies in the face of the well-known pattern that liberal democracies do not aggress; plus, it assumes, wrongly, that the Arab-Israeli conflict is among the most costly in terms of lives lost.
To place the Arab-Israeli fatalities in their proper context, one of the two co-authors, Gunnar Heinsohn, has compiled statistics to rank conflicts since 1950 by the number of human deaths incurred. Note how far down the list is the entry in bold type.
Conflicts since 1950 with over 10,000 Fatalities*
1.  40,000,000 Red China, 1949-76 (outright killing, manmade famine, Gulag)
2.  10,000,000 Soviet Bloc: late Stalinism, 1950-53; post-Stalinism, to 1987 (mostly Gulag)
3.  4,000,000 Ethiopia, 1962-92: Communists, artificial hunger, genocides
4.  3,800,000 Zaire (Congo-Kinshasa): 1967-68; 1977-78; 1992-95; 1998-present
5.  2,800,000 Korean war, 1950-53
6.  1,900,000 Sudan, 1955-72; 1983-2006 (civil wars, genocides)
7.  1,870,000 Cambodia: Khmer Rouge 1975-79; civil war 1978-91
8 1,800,000 Vietnam War, 1954-75
9.  1,800,000 Afghanistan: Soviet and internecine killings, Taliban 1980-2001
10.  1,250,000 West Pakistan massacres in East Pakistan (Bangladesh 1971)
11.  1,100,000 Nigeria, 1966-79 (Biafra); 1993-present
12.  1,100,000 Mozambique, 1964-70 (30,000) + after retreat of Portugal 1976-92
13.  1,000,000 Iran-Iraq-War, 1980-88
14.  900,000 Rwanda genocide, 1994
15.  875,000 Algeria: against France 1954-62 (675,000); between Islamists and the government 1991-2006 (200,000)
16.  850,000 Uganda, 1971-79; 1981-85; 1994-present
17.  650,000 Indonesia: Marxists 1965-66 (450,000); East Timor, Papua, Aceh etc, 1969-present (200,000)
18.  580,000 Angola: war against Portugal 1961-72 (80,000); after Portugal’s retreat (1972-2002)
19.  500,000 Brazil against its Indians, up to 1999
20.  430,000 Vietnam, after the war ended in 1975 (own people; boat refugees)
21.  400,000 Indochina: against France, 1945-54
22.  400,000 Burundi, 1959-present (Tutsi/Hutu)
23.  400,000 Somalia, 1991-present
24.  400,000 North Korea up to 2006 (own people)
25.  300,000 Kurds in Iraq, Iran, Turkey, 1980s-1990s
26.  300,000 Iraq, 1970-2003 (Saddam against minorities)
27.  240,000 Columbia, 1946-58; 1964-present
28.  200,000 Yugoslavia, Tito regime, 1944-80
29.  200,000 Guatemala, 1960-96
30.  190,000 Laos, 1975-90
31.  175,000 Serbia against Croatia, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Kosovo, 1991-1999
32.  150,000 Romania, 1949-99 (own people)
33.  150,000 Liberia, 1989-97
34.  140,000 Russia against Chechnya, 1994-present
35.  150,000 Lebanon civil war, 1975-90
36.  140,000 Kuwait War, 1990-91
37.  130,000 Philippines: 1946-54 (10,000); 1972-present (120,000)
38.  130,000 Burma/Myanmar, 1948-present
39.  100,000 North Yemen, 1962-70
40.  100,000 Sierra Leone, 1991-present
41.  100,000 Albania, 1945-91 (own people)
42.  80,000 Iran, 1978-79 (revolution)
43.  75,000 Iraq, 2003-present (domestic)
44.  75,000 El Salvador, 1975-92
45.  70,000 Eritrea against Ethiopia, 1998-2000
46.  68,000 Sri Lanka, 1997-present
47.  60,000 Zimbabwe, 1966-79; 1980-present
48.  60,000 Nicaragua, 1972-91 (Marxists/natives etc,)
49.  51,000 Arab-Israeli conflict 1950-present
50.  50,000 North Vietnam, 1954-75 (own people)
51.  50,000 Tajikistan, 1992-96 (secularists against Islamists)
52.  50,000 Equatorial Guinea, 1969-79
53.  50,000 Peru, 1980-2000
54.  50,000 Guinea, 1958-84
55.  40,000 Chad, 1982-90
56.  30,000 Bulgaria, 1948-89 (own people)
57.  30,000 Rhodesia, 1972-79
58.  30,000 Argentina, 1976-83 (own people)
59.  27,000 Hungary, 1948-89 (own people)
60.  26,000 Kashmir independence, 1989-present
61.  25,000 Jordan government vs. Palestinians, 1970-71 (Black September)
62.  22,000 Poland, 1948-89 (own people)
63.  20,000 Syria, 1982 (against Islamists in Hama)
64.  20,000 Chinese-Vietnamese war, 1979
65.  19,000 Morocco: war against France, 1953-56 (3,000) and in Western Sahara, 1975-present (16,000)
66.  18,000 Congo Republic, 1997-99
67.  10,000 South Yemen, 1986 (civil war)
_______________________________
*All figures rounded. Sources: Brzezinski, Z., Out of Control: Global Turmoil on the Eve of the Twenty-first Century, 1993; Courtois, S., Le Livre Noir du Communism, 1997; Heinsohn, G., Lexikon der Völkermorde, 1999, 2nd ed.; Heinsohn, G., Söhne und Weltmacht, 2006, 8th ed.; Rummel. R., Death by Government, 1994; Small, M. and Singer, J.D., Resort to Arms: International and Civil Wars 1816-1980, 1982; White, M., “Death Tolls for the Major Wars and Atrocities of the Twentieth Century,” 2003.
This grisly inventory finds the total number of deaths in conflicts since 1950 numbering about 85,000,000. Of that sum, the deaths in the Arab-Israeli conflict since 1950 include 32,000 deaths due to Arab state attacks and 19,000 due to Palestinian attacks, or 51,000 in all. Arabs make up roughly 35,000 of these dead and Jewish Israelis make up 16,000.
These figures mean that deaths Arab-Israeli fighting since 1950 amount to just 0.06 percent of the total number of deaths in all conflicts in that period. More graphically, only 1 out of about 1,700 persons killed in conflicts since 1950 has died due to Arab-Israeli fighting.
(Adding the 11,000 killed in the Israeli war of independence, 1947-49, made up of 5,000 Arabs and 6,000 Israeli Jews, does not significantly alter these figures.)
In a different perspective, some 11,000,000 Muslims have been violently killed since 1948, of which 35,000, or 0.3 percent, died during the sixty years of fighting Israel, or just 1 out of every 315 Muslim fatalities. In contrast, over 90 percent of the 11 million who perished were killed by fellow Muslims.
Comments: (1) Despite the relative non-lethality of the Arab-Israeli conflict, its renown, notoriety, complexity, and diplomatic centrality will probably give it continued out-sized importance in the global imagination. And Israel’s reputation will continue to pay the price. (2) Still, it helps to point out the 1-in-1,700 statistic as a corrective, in the hope that one day, this reality will register, permitting the Arab-Israeli conflict to subside to its rightful, lesser place in world politics.
Professor Heinsohn is director of the Raphael-Lemkin
already have 10 times... look it up & do the m... (show quote)


The fact that all the totals have been rounded off in blocks of 100,000s indicates Pipes did not really research the incidents in order to get more accurate figures. It indicates Pipes made up those figures.

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Dec 4, 2017 12:35:05   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
emarine wrote:
Good point... In the 70 years of the Israeli / Arab conflict 50,000 have died ... In the same time period 11 million Arabs murdered each other... proven fact & some thing to think about...
It all began in 1920 when el-Husseinis, Haj Amin, who emerged as the leading figure in Palestinian politics during the mandate period, first began to organize small teams of suicide killers called fedayeen (“one who sacrifices himself”), to terrorize Jews in 1919 in the hope of duplicating the success of Kemal in Turkey and drive the Jews out of Palestine. From 1920 to 1939, when WW2 began, the Palestinians rioted and murdered Israelis. During the 97 years of this conflict, 25,000 Israelis and 91,000 Palestinians have been killed. That is a yearly average of 247 Israelis and 938 Palestinians killed. Nearly 3000 of the Palestinians killed were killed by Palestinians.

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Dec 4, 2017 12:40:50   #
payne1000
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
It all began in 1920 when el-Husseinis, Haj Amin, who emerged as the leading figure in Palestinian politics during the mandate period, first began to organize small teams of suicide killers called fedayeen (“one who sacrifices himself”), to terrorize Jews in 1919 in the hope of duplicating the success of Kemal in Turkey and drive the Jews out of Palestine. From 1920 to 1939, when WW2 began, the Palestinians rioted and murdered Israelis. During the 97 years of this conflict, 25,000 Israelis and 91,000 Palestinians have been killed. That is a yearly average of 247 Israelis and 938 Palestinians killed. Nearly 3000 of the Palestinians killed were killed by Palestinians.
It all began in 1920 when el-Husseinis, Haj Amin, ... (show quote)


As always, you fail to source your lies.
Since you are an unknown source as well, readers are getting lies with two layers of unnamed sources.

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Dec 4, 2017 13:00:07   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
payne1000 wrote:
The fact that all the totals have been rounded off in blocks of 100,000s indicates Pipes did not really research the incidents in order to get more accurate figures. It indicates Pipes made up those figures.
"The death of one man is a tragedy, the death of millions is a statistic."
Joseph Stalin.

When researching the deaths of thousands and millions over periods of time, it is virtually impossible to get exact body counts. Rounding off the numbers is SOP.

Democide

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Dec 4, 2017 13:12:22   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
payne1000 wrote:
As always, you fail to source your lies.
Since you are an unknown source as well, readers are getting lies with two layers of unnamed sources.
It all began in 1920 when Haj Amin al-Husseini, who emerged as the leading figure in Palestinian politics during the mandate period, first began to organize small teams of suicide killers called fedayeen (“one who sacrifices himself”), to terrorize Jews in 1919 in the hope of duplicating the success of Kemal in Turkey and drive the Jews out of Palestine. From 1920 to 1939, when WW2 began, the Palestinians rioted and murdered Israelis. During the 97 years of this conflict, 25,000 Israelis and 91,000 Palestinians have been killed. That is a yearly average of 247 Israelis and 938 Palestinians killed. Nearly 3000 of the Palestinians killed were killed by Palestinians.

Haj Amin al-Husseini (1893 - 1974)

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Dec 4, 2017 13:20:28   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
payne1000 wrote:
Instead of a punch line, you have hundreds of lines of propaganda.
It takes a lot of words to cover up the truth.
It is no surprise that anything over two paragraphs is major challenge for you. Dyslexia is a bitch, isn't it?


Israel and the Genocide Myth

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Dec 4, 2017 13:20:46   #
payne1000
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
"The death of one man is a tragedy, the death of millions is a statistic."
Joseph Stalin.

When researching the deaths of thousands and millions over periods of time, it is virtually impossible to get exact body counts. Rounding off the numbers is SOP.

Democide


Rounding off numbers is SOP when making them up.

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Dec 4, 2017 13:26:05   #
payne1000
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
It all began in 1920 when Haj Amin al-Husseini, who emerged as the leading figure in Palestinian politics during the mandate period, first began to organize small teams of suicide killers called fedayeen (“one who sacrifices himself”), to terrorize Jews in 1919 in the hope of duplicating the success of Kemal in Turkey and drive the Jews out of Palestine. From 1920 to 1939, when WW2 began, the Palestinians rioted and murdered Israelis. During the 97 years of this conflict, 25,000 Israelis and 91,000 Palestinians have been killed. That is a yearly average of 247 Israelis and 938 Palestinians killed. Nearly 3000 of the Palestinians killed were killed by Palestinians.

Haj Amin al-Husseini (1893 - 1974)
It all began in 1920 when Haj Amin al-Husseini, wh... (show quote)


Are you incapable of posting a workable link?
When I google your line in blue, the first articles to appear are Zionist propaganda sites.

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Dec 4, 2017 13:37:57   #
payne1000
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
It is no surprise that anything over two paragraphs is major challenge for you. Dyslexia is a bitch, isn't it?


Israel and the Genocide Myth


The author of your propaganda article, Julie Lenarz, is a senior advisor at The Israel Project in Washington, DC.
http://www.jpost.com/Author/Julie-Lenarz
Can't you find less obvious Zionist propaganda to foist upon us?

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