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Dec 3, 2017 23:01:05   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Richard Rowland wrote:
People like Payne, with his pictures and videos, have the high ground in this argument.
If it had a punch line, that would be the best joke you've told so far.

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Dec 3, 2017 23:07:14   #
Richard Rowland
 
emarine wrote:
the Palestinians are not the problem... radical Islam is... there's already 1.3 million Palestinian Israeli citizens seems its all about what you choose teach your children...life or death, good or evil, peace or war ...shame you couldn't answer this simple question & solution ... as long as Palestine is ruled by extreme Islam your way won't work...


I couldn't let this go. Once again your comment is false, you say the Palistainanis aren't the problem, it's radical Islam. Were the Palestinians radical Islamist, prior to the Zionists murdering and ethnic cleansing the area, or was it the murder and ethnic cleansing that caused the radicalism of the Islamist? I think I know the conclusion that most would draw when presented with this question. Now, I'm done!

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Dec 3, 2017 23:17:09   #
amadjuster Loc: Texas Panhandle
 
payne1000 wrote:
Not nearly as much a fool as one who thinks Jews inhabiting Israel is necessary for the fool's salvation.


Not “fool”, DOF. Can’t spell, can’t read with comprehension.

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Dec 4, 2017 01:28:17   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Richard Rowland wrote:
I couldn't let this go. Once again your comment is false, you say the Palistainanis aren't the problem, it's radical Islam. Were the Palestinians radical Islamist, prior to the Zionists murdering and ethnic cleansing the area, or was it the murder and ethnic cleansing that caused the radicalism of the Islamist? I think I know the conclusion that most would draw when presented with this question. Now, I'm done!
Not all Palestinians are radical Islamists, just the ones running the show. It all began in 1920 when el-Husseinis, Haj Amin, who emerged as the leading figure in Palestinian politics during the mandate period, first began to organize small teams of suicide killers called fedayeen (“one who sacrifices himself”), to terrorize Jews in 1919 in the hope of duplicating the success of Kemal in Turkey and drive the Jews out of Palestine. From 1920 to 1939, when WW2 began, the Palestinians rioted and murdered Israelis. During the 97 years of this conflict, 25,000 Israelis and 91,000 Palestinians have been killed. That is a yearly average of 247 Israelis and 938 Palestinians killed. I hardly see that as "murdering and ethnic cleansing" or some attempt at genocide. It is a war, Dick, between Islam and the civilized world. What part of "Death to America, the Great Satan" and "Death to Israel, the Little Satan" don't you understand?

Israel and the Genocide Myth
We have all heard it before – the hyperbolic and grotesque mantra about how Israel is guilty of genocide and mass murder by people who are historically illiterate and have lost all sense of proportion.

The Greatest Murder Machine in History
By Mike Konrad

When one thinks of mass murder, Hitler comes to mind. If not Hitler, then Tojo, Stalin, or Mao. Credit is given to the 20th-century totalitarians as the worst species of tyranny to have ever arisen. However, the alarming truth is that Islam has killed more than any of these, and may surpass all of them combined in numbers and cruelty.

The enormity of the slaughters of the "religion of peace" are so far beyond comprehension that even honest historians overlook the scale. When one looks beyond our myopic focus, Islam is the greatest killing machine in the history of mankind, bar none.

The Islamic conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. -- Will Durant, as quoted on Daniel Pipes site.

Conservative estimates place the number at 80 million dead Indians.

According to some calculations, the Indian (subcontinent) population decreased by 80 million between 1000 (conquest of Afghanistan) and 1525 (end of Delhi Sultanate). -- Koenrad Elst as quoted on Daniel Pipes site

80 Million?! The conquistadors' crimes pale into insignificance at that number. No wonder Hitler admired Islam as a fighting religion. He stood in awe of Islam, whose butchery even he did not surpass.

Over 110 Million Blacks were killed by Islam.

... a minumum of 28 Million African were enslaved in the Muslim Middle East. Since, at least, 80 percent of those captured by Muslim slave traders were calculated to have died before reaching the slave market, it is believed that the death toll from 1400 years of Arab and Muslim slave raids into Africa could have been as high as 112 Millions. When added to the number of those sold in the slave markets, the total number of African victims of the trans-Saharan and East African slave trade could be significantly higher than 140 Million people. -- John Allembillah Azumah, author of The Legacy of Arab-Islam in Africa: A Quest for Inter-religious Dialogue

Add just those two numbers alone together, and Islam has surpassed the victims of 20th-century totalitarianism. However, it does not end there. Add the millions who died at the hand of Muslims in the Sudan in our lifetime.

Much of Islamic slavery was sexual in nature, with a preference for women. Those men who were captured were castrated. The mulatto children of the women were often killed, which explains why Islam was not demographically shifted towards the black race, unlike slaves in the West, who bore children to breed a mestizo class. Add in those dead children; and we arrive at well over 200 million.

Remember that in the 7th century, North Africa was almost totally Christian. What happened to them?

By the year 750, a hundred years after the conquest of Jerusalem, at least 50 percent of the world's Christians found themselves under Muslim hegemony… Today there is no indigenous Christianity in the region [of Northwest Africa], no communities of Christians whose history can be traced to antiquity.-- "Christianity Face to Face with Islam," CERC

What happened to those Christian millions? Some converted. The rest? Lost to history.

We know that over 1 million Europeans were enslaved by Barbary Pirates. How many died is anybody's guess.

...for the 250 years between 1530 and 1780, the figure could easily have been as high as 1,250,000 - BBC

In the Middle Ages…

…many slaves were passed through Armenia and were castrated there to fill the Muslim demand for eunuchs. -- Slavery in Early Medieval Europe.

The same practice ran through Islamic Spain. North Europeans captured from raids up to Iceland, or purchased, were butchered in the castratoriums of Iberia. Many died from the operations that ran for centuries.

The number of dead from the Muslim conquest of the Balkans and Southern Italy is unknown, but again the numbers add up, surely into the millions over the centuries. Don't forget the 1.5 million Armenian Christians killed by the Turks during WWI. We do know that over five centuries, vast numbers of Christian boys were kidnapped to become Islamic Janissary mercenaries for the Turks. Add those in, too.

Muslims prized blonde women for their harems; and so enslaved Slavic women were purchased in the bazaars of the Crimean Caliphate. In Muslim Spain, an annual tribute of 100 Visigothic [blonde] women was required from Spain's Cantabrian coast.

For decades, 100 virgins per year were required by the Muslim rulers of Spain from the conquered population. The tribute was only stopped when the Spaniards began fighting back -- Jihad: Islam's 1,300 Year War Against Western Civilisation

Add in the death toll from the Reconquista and the numbers climb higher.

Research has shown that the Dark Ages were not caused by the Goths, who eventually assimilated and Christianized:

…the real destroyers of classical civilization were the Muslims. It was the Arab Invasions... which broke the unity of the Mediterranean world and turned the Middle Sea -- previously one of the world’s most important trading highways -- into a battleground. It was only after the appearance of Islam... that the cities of the West, which depended upon the Mediterranean trade for their survival, began to die. -- Islam Caused the Dark Ages

Add in those unknown millions who died as a consequence.

How many know the horrors of the conquest of Malaysia? The Buddhists of Thailand and Malaysia were slaughtered en masse.

When attacked and massacred by the Muslims, the Buddhists initially did not make any attempt to escape from their murderers. They accepted death with an air of fatalism and destiny. And hence they are not around today to tell their story. – History of Jihad.org

We may never know the numbers of dead.

After Muslims came to power in the early 15th century, animist hill peoples eventually disappeared due to their enslavement and ‘incorporation’ into the Muslim population of Malaya, Sumatra, Borneo, and Java via raids, tribute and purchase, especially of children. Java was the largest exporter of slaves around 1500. -- Islam Monitor

In the same manner, Islam arrived in the Philippines. Only the appearance of the Spanish stopped a total collapse, and confined Islam to the southern islands.

The coming of the Spanish saved the Philippines from Islam, except for the Southern tip where the population had been converted to Islam.-- History of Jihad.org

Again, the number of dead is unknown; but add them to the total.

The animist Filipinos were eager to ally with the Spanish against Islam. In fact, much of Southeast Asia welcomed the Spanish and Portuguese as preferable to Islam.

...from the 17th century successive Thai kings allied themselves with the seafaring Western powers – the Portuguese and the Dutch and succeeded in staving off the threat of Islam from the Muslim Malays and their Arab overlords.-- History of Jihad.org

A few galleons and muskets were not enough to conquer Asia. Islam had made the Europeans initially appear as liberators; and to a certain extent they were. Who were the real imperialists?

Even today...

...Malaysian Jihadis are plotting to transform multi-ethnic Malaysia into an Islamic Caliphate, and fomenting trouble in Southern Thailand.-- History of Jihad.org

Add this all up. The African victims. The Indian victims. The European victims. Add in the Armenian genocide. Then add in the lesser known, but no doubt quite large number of victims of Eastern Asia. Add in the jihad committed by Muslims against China, which was invaded in 651 AD. Add in the Crimean Khanate predations on the Slavs, especially their women.

Though the numbers are not clear, what is obvious is that Islam is the greatest murder machine in history bar none, possibly exceeding 250 million dead. Possibly one-third to one-half or more of all those killed by war or slavery in history can be traced to Islam; and this is just a cursory examination.

Now consider the over 125 Million women today who have been genitally mutilated for Islamic honor's sake. In spite of what apologists tell you, the practice is almost totally confined to Islamic areas.

New information from Iraqi Kurdistan raises the possibility that the problem is more prevalent in the Middle East than previously believed and that FGM is far more tied to religion than many Western academics and activists admit. – “Is Female Genital Mutilation an Islamic Problem?” ME Quarterly

Once thought concentrated in Africa, FGM has now been discovered to be common wherever Islam is found.

There are indications that FGM might be a phenomenon of epidemic proportions in the Arab Middle East. Hosken, for instance, notes that traditionally all women in the Persian Gulf region were mutilated. Arab governments refuse to address the problem. -- "Is Female Genital Mutilation an Islamic Problem?" ME Quarterly

Remember that this has gone on for 1400 years; and was imposed on a population that had been formerly Christian or pagan.

FGM is practiced on large scale in Islamic Indonesia; and is increasing.

...far from scaling down, the problem of FGM in Indonesia has escalated sharply. The mass ceremonies in Bandung have grown bigger and more popular every year. -- Guardian

The horrified British author of that Guardian article is still deluded that Islam does not support FGM, when in fact it is now settled that FGM is a core Islamic practice. Islamic women have been brainwashed to support their own abuse.

Abu Sahlieh further cited Muhammad as saying, "Circumcision is a sunna (tradition) for the men and makruma (honorable deed) for the women." -- “Is Female Genital Mutilation an Islamic Problem?” ME Quarterly

What other tyranny does this? Not even the Nazis mutilated their own women!

Unlike the 20th-century totalitarians whose killing fury consumed themselves, reducing their longevity, Islam paces itself. In the end, though slower, Islam has killed and tortured far more than any other creed, religious or secular. Unlike secular tyranny, Islam, by virtue of its polygamy and sexual predations, reproduces itself and increases.

Other tyrannies are furious infections, which burn hot, but are soon overcome. Islam is a slow terminal cancer, which metastasizes, and takes over. It never retreats. Its methods are more insidious, often imperceptible at first, driven by demographics. Like cancer, excision may be the only cure.

So whenever you read about this or that Israeli outrage -- and there may be truth to the complaint -- place the news in context. Look whom the Israelis are fighting against. Islam is like nothing else in history.

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Dec 4, 2017 01:45:01   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
no propaganda please wrote:
ank you

Thank you for this excellent explanation of the forming of the state of Israel. The Palistinians and other muslim groups want all Jewish people and all those who support the state of Israel killed.
Yes sir, the sooner the leaders of the civilized world realize the ultimate goal of Islam is world domination, the better we will be able to stop them. But as long as the politically correct panty waists deny the dangers of radical Islam while buying into the myths and propaganda that Israel (and the Jews) are the bad guys, the door remains open for militant Muslims to advance their murderous agenda. They will only back down when they get their asses kicked back to the dark ages where they came from.

I wonder sometimes what all of Islam would do if every Jew on earth, all 15 million of them, suddenly vanished, POOF, gone. Would the Muslim armies and terrorists lay down their arms and go back home, wherever home is? Would the Palestinians throw away their guns and rockets and start planting flowers and apple trees and building factories? Would they turn all that anger and hatred into compassion for their fellow man? Not on your life. They would just cross the Jews off their target list and gear up for their next campaign. And guess who they want to destroy even more than they do Israel and the Jews. Yep, they have been at it for some time now, they are definitely working on it.
It is called The Third Jihad

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Dec 4, 2017 07:52:44   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
If it had a punch line, that would be the best joke you've told so far.



UNITED NATIONS SHOCKER! UK breaks with EU for the first time, condemns Syrian-backed anti-Israel resolution
by BareNakedIslam
UN Watch commended the United Kingdom for “breaking with the EU common position for the first time and opposing the UN General Assembly’s annual Syrian-backed resolution that condemned Israel for not giving the Assad regime control over the Golan and its 20,000 Druze* residents.
*The Druze people are proud Israeli citizens, who volunteer to serve in the IDF and hold positions in the Israeli government.

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Dec 4, 2017 08:39:28   #
emarine
 
Richard Rowland wrote:
I couldn't let this go. Once again your comment is false, you say the Palistainanis aren't the problem, it's radical Islam. Were the Palestinians radical Islamist, prior to the Zionists murdering and ethnic cleansing the area, or was it the murder and ethnic cleansing that caused the radicalism of the Islamist? I think I know the conclusion that most would draw when presented with this question. Now, I'm done!



You fail to look at history...like payne you cherry pick time... You were clueless about the Muslim Brotherhood... your opinion is worthless until you learn something outside paynes neo Nazi Jihadi propaganda...Dick...

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Dec 4, 2017 08:45:36   #
payne1000
 
emarine wrote:
Gary Aminoff appears to be Jewish...maybe?... but what appears to you is often very far from reality... maybe the photo in the link of the grand mufti of Palestine kissing Hitler's Nazi ass wasn't proof enough?... here's some more reality of the people you support & want everyone to pity... you're a fraud & champion of terror... enjoy... http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/obsession-radical-islams-war-against-the-west/


Hitler needed an alliance with the Grand Mufti. Hitler was making an alliance with Germany's Zionists to send 50,000 Zionists to Palestine with enough money and German goods to break the World Jewish Congress's worldwide boycott on German goods. The boycott had been launched by Jews in NYC who claimed they were declaring war on Germany in 1933. This action by the Jews did not bode well for the non-Zionist Jews in Germany. Zionists sacrificed the Jews who remained in Germany in order to get a Jewish foothold in Palestine. As soon as the 50,000 Zionists were safely in Palestine, the Jewish World Congress called off the boycott, enabling Hitler's economy to recover and his war machine to develop fully. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-1ts3VTeeI



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Dec 4, 2017 08:54:19   #
payne1000
 
amadjuster wrote:
Not “fool”, DOF. Can’t spell, can’t read with comprehension.


Google defines DOF as an abbreviation of the photographic term "Depth of Field."
If I applied that term to you, I would say you have a very shallow depth of field . . . which indicates most of what you see is out of focus.

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Dec 4, 2017 08:56:41   #
payne1000
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
If it had a punch line, that would be the best joke you've told so far.


Instead of a punch line, you have hundreds of lines of propaganda.
It takes a lot of words to cover up the truth.

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Dec 4, 2017 09:02:28   #
payne1000
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Yes sir, the sooner the leaders of the civilized world realize the ultimate goal of Islam is world domination, the better we will be able to stop them. But as long as the politically correct panty waists deny the dangers of radical Islam while buying into the myths and propaganda that Israel (and the Jews) are the bad guys, the door remains open for militant Muslims to advance their murderous agenda. They will only back down when they get their asses kicked back to the dark ages where they came from.

I wonder sometimes what all of Islam would do if every Jew on earth, all 15 million of them, suddenly vanished, POOF, gone. Would the Muslim armies and terrorists lay down their arms and go back home, wherever home is? Would the Palestinians throw away their guns and rockets and start planting flowers and apple trees and building factories? Would they turn all that anger and hatred into compassion for their fellow man? Not on your life. They would just cross the Jews off their target list and gear up for their next campaign. And guess who they want to destroy even more than they do Israel and the Jews. Yep, they have been at it for some time now, they are definitely working on it.
It is called The Third Jihad
Yes sir, the sooner the leaders of the civilized w... (show quote)


If Islam wanted to dominate the world, they would have long ago acquired nuclear weapons.
They don't have nuclear weapons. Guess who does have nuclear weapons which were acquired secretly and illegally?



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Dec 4, 2017 09:04:45   #
emarine
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Yes sir, the sooner the leaders of the civilized world realize the ultimate goal of Islam is world domination, the better we will be able to stop them. But as long as the politically correct panty waists deny the dangers of radical Islam while buying into the myths and propaganda that Israel (and the Jews) are the bad guys, the door remains open for militant Muslims to advance their murderous agenda. They will only back down when they get their asses kicked back to the dark ages where they came from.

I wonder sometimes what all of Islam would do if every Jew on earth, all 15 million of them, suddenly vanished, POOF, gone. Would the Muslim armies and terrorists lay down their arms and go back home, wherever home is? Would the Palestinians throw away their guns and rockets and start planting flowers and apple trees and building factories? Would they turn all that anger and hatred into compassion for their fellow man? Not on your life. They would just cross the Jews off their target list and gear up for their next campaign. And guess who they want to destroy even more than they do Israel and the Jews. Yep, they have been at it for some time now, they are definitely working on it.
It is called The Third Jihad
Yes sir, the sooner the leaders of the civilized w... (show quote)



Good point... In the 70 years of the Israeli / Arab conflict 50,000 have died ... In the same time period 11 million Arabs murdered each other... proven fact & some thing to think about...

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Dec 4, 2017 09:17:27   #
emarine
 
payne1000 wrote:
If Islam wanted to dominate the world, they would have long ago acquired nuclear weapons.
They don't have nuclear weapons. Guess who does have nuclear weapons which were acquired secretly and illegally?



Kind of funny coming from a Neo Nazi Jihadi propagandist ... who's in fact the paid shill here?... maybe you don't understand the term "propaganda" as well as fact...

A propaganda technique is an improper appeal to emotion used for the purpose of swaying the opinions of an audience. The following propaganda techniques are common: 1. Bandwagon: This technique involves encouraging people to think or act in some way simply because other people are doing so.


fact
a thing that is indisputably the case.
"the most commonly known fact about hedgehogs is that they have fleas"
synonyms:
reality, actuality, truth

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Dec 4, 2017 09:22:17   #
payne1000
 
emarine wrote:
Good point... In the 70 years of the Israeli / Arab conflict 50,000 have died ... In the same time period 11 million Arabs murdered each other... proven fact & some thing to think about...


Can you back up your 11 million lie with more than one source who is not Jewish?

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Dec 4, 2017 09:23:50   #
payne1000
 
emarine wrote:
Kind of funny coming from a Neo Nazi Jihadi propagandist ... who's in fact the paid shill here?... maybe you don't understand the term "propaganda" as well as fact...

A propaganda technique is an improper appeal to emotion used for the purpose of swaying the opinions of an audience. The following propaganda techniques are common: 1. Bandwagon: This technique involves encouraging people to think or act in some way simply because other people are doing so.


fact
a thing that is indisputably the case.
"the most commonly known fact about hedgehogs is that they have fleas"
synonyms:
reality, actuality, truth
Kind of funny coming from a Neo Nazi Jihadi propag... (show quote)


Paid shills hide their identities.
My name is Larry Payne.
What's your real name?

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