Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton

"It’s easy to become exasperated when debating progressives, but always remember that at the core, you are both human beings who are attempting to solve a problem."

Riiiight. Both. Human. Beings. Mmm-hmm. One of us is definitely not a mindless automaton. OK. Got it.

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4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory

How To Debate Progressives And Actually Make Progress ! !

It'll never happen proof is right here on OPP .

Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA

Asking questions is my favorite. It forced them to back up their vague goofy claims.

peter11937 Loc: NYS

But they never do....

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

I found a truth in the attached, that is "The first and most disappointing thing that you have to come to terms with is this — facts don't convince people, especially if they already have an opinion." I have spent countless hours researching, weighing opinions and facts, and painstakingly writing responses using very simple terms to respond to demands, questions, and misleading headlines. All to be either ignored or receive a meme with some inappropriate comment. Let us face facts, some folks are just beyond civilized discussions or organized thought.

PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.

Very true Pennylynn, very true.

Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA

Exactly...

Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton

Me too. I used to try and prove my case with facts, figures, etc. At least now I understand why it never worked.

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

I knew I was not alone and I noticed that you have pulled back with facts. I want you to know that I read, and verified, your information. I enjoyed each of those posts. So, go back to using facts...think of it as a public service and an educational event for us who want the facts!

Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton

Well, OK, for you, I'll do it. But only because you want me to. If it was anyone else (except maybe LindaJoy), I would say uh-uh, no way. Make way, Old Factual Larry coming through!

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

Thank you and I am sure, if Linda reads this comment, she too will celebrate the return of quality discussions! Thank you!

Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX

Yipee! You may not hear it but I'm giving you guys a one man standing ovation.

Ricktloml

For those of you who are kind enough to go to the trouble to provide facts, I would like to say thank-you and don't stop because progressives have no use for facts. For a lot of us it is an education to read factual replies on a variety of topics, and we enjoy it very much. Here's a question, since progressives don't base their outlook on life based on facts, do you think they would be appalled to learn they are operating on faith, they do seem to have as much disdain for faith as they do for facts. Again thanks and keep up the good work

Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton

Quite the conundrum, isn't it? There was a time when 'progressives' were better known as communists and socialists. From 1938 on, the House Un-American Activities Committee (HUAC), and the investigative activities of Senator Joe McCarthy in the early 1950s ('McCarthyism', anyone?) pretty much put paid to the idea of being known as either a communist or a socialist in the United States. About that time, communists and socialists banded together and commandeered the term 'liberal' to describe their movement. This was an egregious misrepresentation since 'liberalism' was the polar opposite of what these socialists and communists were espousing. There is no such thing as a free market under 1960s 'liberalism'.

Anyway, the use of the word 'liberal' sowed sufficient confusion among the electorate to sustain their political presence in the halls of power. This worked pretty well, until an actor and ex-governor from California named Ronald Reagan spoiled their party. Between Reagan in Washington, and Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher in London, the word 'liberal' was ridiculed to the point that it came to be associated with the realities of, yep, communism and socialism.

Having been 'outed' as the political deviants they were, the communists/socialists ('Liberals'? Are you kidding me?) looked around for yet another moniker to hide behind. Enter the 1990s and the emergence of the 'progressive' movement. This is yet another commandeering of an older term that means not what you think. From the 1890s through the 1920s, the main objective of the Progressive movement was the elimination of corruption in government. An admirable goal, to be sure. The movement primarily targeted political machines and their bosses and had absolutely nothing to do with communism or socialism. Perfect. Another era of mass confusion is introduced into the political arena, and now 'progressives' continue to 'move the ball' with the election of Barack Hussein Obama as the 44th President of the United States. Not once (that was bad enough), but twice!

So there we were. It was November 8, 2016, over 100 years after the communist/socialist movement first reared its ugly head, and the United States is starting to look every bit as dysfunctional as other tinpot dictatorships such as Venezuela, Zimbabwe and North Korea, to name a few. Finally, after being snowed over for nearly a hundred years, the American people began to see where they were being led. And they don't think much of it. They were being mocked and lied to by their own media, laughed at by their own politicians and misled by their intellectual leaders. And they knew it. They finally saw through the lies and hyperbole, they were ready to say "enough!".

Congratulations, America! You elected a political outsider who promised to secure your borders against criminals, promised to remove the corruption in your capital and promised to bring good paying jobs back to your economy. It was so entertaining to see how he mocked and belittled the political hacks who got in his way. It still is. He regularly 'blows up his twitter feed' with comments that would never see the light of day through the media filter. They hate the fact that our President has his own hotline to the American people, totally bypassing their censorship and approvals. It sucks the wind right out of their sails. For the rest of us, it's so much fun to watch.

PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.

Articulated and well stated.