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Repeat after me: You have nothing to worry about if you don't talk to terrorists
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Jun 11, 2013 22:57:05   #
Worried for our children Loc: Massachusetts
 
Hey Dutch: maybe this will clarify it ....



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Jun 12, 2013 07:43:27   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Augustus Greatorex wrote:


The Dutchman wrote:
It came right out of the dictionary moron! & I all to well know the obozo considers me and those like me to be terrorists. His administration has openly declared us such!


Definitely, a political dissident unfit for reeducation. Terrorist watch lists suggest a view of "terrorist" slightly different and less likely to need reeducation.


He *is* pretty set in his views... not exactly threatening.

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Jun 12, 2013 07:49:38   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Worried for our children wrote:
Hey Dutch: maybe this will clarify it ....


Oh-no! the chart has been leaked! LOL

...seriously though - without a binding definition, that chart is about as specific as it gets... Just depends on what free expressions bother the government stakeholders.

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Jun 12, 2013 09:06:23   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
The Dutchman wrote:
It came right out of the dictionary moron! & I all to well know the obozo considers me and those like me to be terrorists. His administration has openly declared us such!


The keyword that you aren't picking up on is "binding". I've also used the term "official" to describe the same thing although binding is more specific. Dictionaries don't provide definitions that laws are bound to. Call me a moron if you want but *I* think that if we are going to subject ourselves to a law containing 700 pages of how to strip liberty from a terrorist there should be a "binding" definition of what a terrorist is... IN THE LAW ITSELF.

comprende?

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Jun 12, 2013 10:40:21   #
Worried for our children Loc: Massachusetts
 
straightUp: we get it lets move on lol

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Jun 12, 2013 12:36:05   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Worried for our children wrote:
straightUp: we get it lets move on lol

Well... *some* of us are getting it... But you're right... not much else to say.

...Next ?

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Jun 12, 2013 12:36:21   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
straightUp wrote:
The question you have to ask then is... WTF is a terrorist? What simply blows my mind with this STUPID war on terrorism is that no one has actually defined what a terrorist is! The worst law EVER passed by Congress, the PATRIOT ACT, actually strips a terrorist of all his civil rights and yet all the while the president can decide almost on a whim whether or not a person actually qualifies as a terrorist. The hundreds of detainees in Guantanamo that were released without charge after being there for several years without trial, makes it clear that a person doesn't even have to commit a crime to be categorized as a terrorist.

So... Carte Blanche for the government!

We Americans don't seem to care much though. We seem to be willing to accept severe treatment of "other" people so long as it's not us. But what many of us don't understand is what separates us from "them", more than anything else, is economic viability. As long as the bulk of Americans are economically viable they present value to big business and everything is cool. With the help of the progressive system of government, this stability is further insured by subsidizing the economic viability of non-productive people or isolating them in prisons.

But the prevailing expectation, given a host of indicators from the concentration of wealth to the rising population in this country, is that more and more Americans will loose their economic viability and when the numbers reach critical mass, there will be a human inclination to rebel.

The emperors of this nation already know this and they've established the "War Against Terrorism" as the perfect excuse to develop all the laws and methods to control us including the NSA and it's extensive surveillance systems.

So... good luck to all of you.
The question you have to ask then is... WTF is a t... (show quote)


Did I just read another "Blame it all on Bush" post from a leaner?

Did this leaner fail to see when Big Sis Napolitano declared all veterans to be possible terrorists? We didn't like that one but being law abiding people we didn't go after her with our guns.

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Jun 12, 2013 12:45:42   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
The Dutchman wrote:
This babbling idiot just rambles on mindlessly with no common sense to anything it posts what so ever! You may try to draw it a picture as it appears to only have a comic book mentality!


There is little sense to trying to help a follower of the Alinsky methods to understand anything. I would say that ignoring would work much better so why don't you join me in that?

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Jun 12, 2013 12:50:58   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
Worried for our children wrote:
Hey Dutch: maybe this will clarify it ....


This looks a lot like something the DHS sent out to its preparers of targets for its people to have target practice on. There have been reported instances of them getting targets with many of those people on them.

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Jun 12, 2013 12:55:34   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
oldroy wrote:
Did I just read another "Blame it all on Bush" post from a leaner?

LOL... hardley. Where do you even see that? You must using those special glasses with the words "blame Bush" written on them so you see it in everything a free-thinker ever writes. Sure, I mentioned the USA PATRIOT Act... well dugh, we ARE talking about spying on Americans etc... and sure, Bush was the president who signed it into law but he didn't write it... he probably didn't even read it - he was just following directions, hence my reference to the "The emperors of this nation" which certainly isn't a reference to wee little Bush Jr. But I guess it's a little difficult for someone with such poor reading comprehension to catch... Sorry. Just write it off as more babbling from the overeducated left - that should make you comfortable in your ignorance. ;)

oldroy wrote:

Did this leaner fail to see when Big Sis Napolitano declared all veterans to be possible terrorists? We didn't like that one but being law abiding people we didn't go after her with our guns.

Well, that's nice... see - you stay out of trouble that way. Hey, aren't you supposed to be ignoring me?

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Jun 12, 2013 12:58:42   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
oldroy wrote:
There is little sense to trying to help a follower of the Alinsky methods to understand anything. I would say that ignoring would work much better so why don't you join me in that?

A follower of Alinsky... Huh... this just keeps getting better all the time.

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Jun 12, 2013 13:23:29   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
straightUp wrote:
It's part of NSA... Nothing to do with Congress and everything to do with the Department of Defense which operates under the Executive Branch.

If you're gonna shoot - at least aim first.


So the Executive Branch provides their budget and funding? Interesting.

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Jun 12, 2013 13:25:58   #
Augustus Greatorex Loc: NE
 
straightUp wrote:
Well, that's nice... see - you stay out of trouble that way. Hey, aren't you supposed to be ignoring me?


I was disinclined to think Oldroy's assessment valid.

srtaightUp wrote:
LOL... hardley. Where do you even see that? You must using those special glasses with the words "blame Bush" written on them so you see it in everything a free-thinker ever writes. Sure, I mentioned the USA PATRIOT Act... well dugh, we ARE talking about spying on Americans etc... and sure, Bush was the president who signed it into law but he didn't write it... he probably didn't even read it - he was just following directions, hence my reference to the "The emperors of this nation" which certainly isn't a reference to wee little Bush Jr. But I guess it's a little difficult for someone with such poor reading comprehension to catch... Sorry. Just write it off as more babbling from the overeducated left - that should make you comfortable in your ignorance.
LOL... hardley. Where do you even see that? You mu... (show quote)


Thank you, for correcting my misconception.

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Jun 12, 2013 16:17:07   #
The Dutchman
 
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oldroy wrote:
There is little sense to trying to help a follower of the Alinsky methods to understand anything. I would say that ignoring would work much better so why don't you join me in that?


:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Jun 12, 2013 18:13:07   #
The Dutchman
 
straightUp wrote:
The keyword that you aren't picking up on is "binding". I've also used the term "official" to describe the same thing although binding is more specific. Dictionaries don't provide definitions that laws are bound to. Call me a moron if you want but *I* think that if we are going to subject ourselves to a law containing 700 pages of how to strip liberty from a terrorist there should be a "binding" definition of what a terrorist is... IN THE LAW ITSELF.

comprende?
The keyword that you aren't picking up on is "... (show quote)


According to the obozo and his company of useful idiots a terrorist is ANYONE they want to claim is a terrorist and he thinks he is THE LAW!

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