Moore was dismissed for judicial misconduct twice: his refusal to remove the Ten Commandments and to honor gay marriage. Is he a federal judge or a Christian? The problem is, as I see it, that there is a direct conflict between being a Christian and an American citizen. The Bible warnings against worldliness are severe. "He who is a friend of the world are at enmity with God." (James4:4) Moore was true to his Christian beliefs, which I find admirable. But it was un-American. You can't have it both ways. America is not a Christian Nation. Separation of church and state was a Christian mandate. Christians fled to this nation to avoid persecution from other Christian sects. Fear of a theocracy, a Christian nation, was what almost every Christian in America was duly concerned about. Separation of church and state was not a secular, humanist, atheist idea: it was Christian.
rumitoid wrote:
Moore was dismissed for judicial misconduct twice: his refusal to remove the Ten Commandments and to honor gay marriage. Is he a federal judge or a Christian? The problem is, as I see it, that there is a direct conflict between being a Christian and an American citizen. The Bible warnings against worldliness are severe. "He who is a friend of the world are at enmity with God." (James4:4) Moore was true to his Christian beliefs, which I find admirable. But it was un-American. You can't have it both ways. America is not a Christian Nation. Separation of church and state was a Christian mandate. Christians fled to this nation to avoid persecution from other Christian sects. Fear of a theocracy, a Christian nation, was what almost every Christian in America was duly concerned about. Separation of church and state was not a secular, humanist, atheist idea: it was Christian.
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Lay off of the devil juice, Bubba.
You've plum done pickled your brain.
Here's a question. Does anyone know where it calls for the separation of church and state?
Freedom of religion is in the Constitution, I believe it meant the freedom to worship the God of the Christians and Jews, not spelled out, because it was felt, at the time, to be understood. Not Allah, Satan or any other so called gods. There is no one "official national" church of the USA but the original states did try to force only certain denominations in their states so a compromise was reached... and we have no King but Jesus. The elite have been slowly destroying the Constitution by intentionally misunderstanding it since our founding because they serve another god.
badbob85037 wrote:
Here's a question. Does anyone know where it calls for the separation of church and state?
"Separation of church and state" (sometimes "wall of separation between church and state") is a phrase used by Thomas Jefferson and others expressing an understanding of the intent and function of the establishment clause and free exercise clause of the first amendment to the Constitution of the United States. The first amendment states: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion (establishment clause), or prohibiting the free exercise thereof (free exercise clause)".
The establishment clause prohibits the Federal government from mandating a State religion. The free exercise clause asserts individual freedom of choice in religious matters. In essence, it tells Government 'hands off' when it comes to religion. Stay away. Don't go there. Leave us alone. It does not say that government employees may not be religious, nor does it say that prayer in government buildings is banned, or that Congress is not allowed to say a prayer at the beginning of each session, or in the middle of a session, or at the end, or at any other time. Nor does it say that government must be amoral, far from it. It simply states that there will be no legislation in religious matters.
The phrase 'wall of separation between church and State' is a somewhat unfortunate choice of words, since the less moral among us have seized upon it as proof that the founders mandated the suppression of religion in the personal beliefs and behavior of government officials and employees.
That's a bald-faced lie.
badbob85037 wrote:
Here's a question. Does anyone know where it calls for the separation of church and state?
It’s not codified. Thomas Jefferson phrased it that way in a letter to the Danbury Baptists who were asking him to exert pressure on another congregation. He was trying to clarify the Constitution re: the establishment of a state religion.
rumitoid wrote:
Moore was dismissed for judicial misconduct twice: his refusal to remove the Ten Commandments and to honor gay marriage. Is he a federal judge or a Christian? The problem is, as I see it, that there is a direct conflict between being a Christian and an American citizen. The Bible warnings against worldliness are severe. "He who is a friend of the world are at enmity with God." (James4:4) Moore was true to his Christian beliefs, which I find admirable. But it was un-American. You can't have it both ways. America is not a Christian Nation. Separation of church and state was a Christian mandate. Christians fled to this nation to avoid persecution from other Christian sects. Fear of a theocracy, a Christian nation, was what almost every Christian in America was duly concerned about. Separation of church and state was not a secular, humanist, atheist idea: it was Christian.
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Someone call Rummy a cab he is chanting really stupid things and talking in tongues .
rumitoid, One of the most important backers of true freedom of religion was Voltaire, the French philosoph of the enlightenment. He was an agnostic. Separation of church and state was also an important value of the Anabaptists and some other Christian denominations. Most Christian denominations were not so liberal about freedom of religion including the Catholic Church, Luther, and most Protestant churches. If you are saying that separation of church and state protects religion from the power of the state, I completely agree with you. History is full of examples of the state controlling the church for it's own reasons.
rumitoid wrote:
Moore was dismissed for judicial misconduct twice: his refusal to remove the Ten Commandments and to honor gay marriage. Is he a federal judge or a Christian? The problem is, as I see it, that there is a direct conflict between being a Christian and an American citizen. The Bible warnings against worldliness are severe. "He who is a friend of the world are at enmity with God." (James4:4) Moore was true to his Christian beliefs, which I find admirable. But it was un-American. You can't have it both ways. America is not a Christian Nation. Separation of church and state was a Christian mandate. Christians fled to this nation to avoid persecution from other Christian sects. Fear of a theocracy, a Christian nation, was what almost every Christian in America was duly concerned about. Separation of church and state was not a secular, humanist, atheist idea: it was Christian.
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saltwind 78 wrote:
rumitoid, One of the most important backers of true freedom of religion was Voltaire, the French philosoph of the enlightenment. He was an agnostic. Separation of church and state was also an important value of the Anabaptists and some other Christian denominations. Most Christian denominations were not so liberal about freedom of religion including the Catholic Church, Luther, and most Protestant churches. If you are saying that separation of church and state protects religion from the power of the state, I completely agree with you. History is full of examples of the state controlling the church for it's own reasons.
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I hear religious questions are mysteries to agnostics....
rumitoid wrote:
Moore was dismissed for judicial misconduct twice: his refusal to remove the Ten Commandments and to honor gay marriage. Is he a federal judge or a Christian? The problem is, as I see it, that there is a direct conflict between being a Christian and an American citizen. The Bible warnings against worldliness are severe. "He who is a friend of the world are at enmity with God." (James4:4) Moore was true to his Christian beliefs, which I find admirable. But it was un-American. You can't have it both ways. America is not a Christian Nation. Separation of church and state was a Christian mandate. Christians fled to this nation to avoid persecution from other Christian sects. Fear of a theocracy, a Christian nation, was what almost every Christian in America was duly concerned about. Separation of church and state was not a secular, humanist, atheist idea: it was Christian.
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Moore did his damndest to impose a type of shiria law on the citizens of Alabama and was removed from office for his efforts not once but twice. Now we learn that while he was beating down justice with his bible he was also diddiling little girls.
Kevyn wrote:
Moore did his damndest [sic] to impose a type of shiria [sic] law
A 'type' of sharia? How many 'types' are there? I can only find the one, as described in the Koran. What others exist?
Larry the Legend wrote:
A 'type' of sharia? How many 'types' are there? I can only find the one, as described in the Koran. What others exist?
I think that he is referring to the Ten Commandments being displayed in Moores courtroom. After all, "Thou shall not kill" on a courtroom wall is a horrible crime.
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