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Nov 15, 2017 22:24:09   #
PLT Sarge Loc: Alabama
 
When I come to this forum I'm looking for logical, disciplined, factual discussion. I understand that you have your opinion, I can respect that. State your position, state the facts supporting your position and I will be more than willing to have a discussion with you. Even if your views are not the same as mine. We can not come to a solution without there being a respect for each others view. This is supposed to be a civil forum, but once again I see it becoming a place for those that don't want to discuss the issues, but those that want to voice their hate. I thought that ADMIN was going to start monitoring. Was the only reason I came back. Don't see that happening, so I will be leaving this forum again soon. I truly wish that I have to. But, I refuse to associate myself with negative people. There are more negative people here than positive.

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Nov 15, 2017 22:25:55   #
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PLT Sarge wrote:
When I come to this forum I'm looking for logical, disciplined, factual discussion. I understand that you have your opinion, I can respect that. State your position, state the facts supporting your position and I will be more than willing to have a discussion with you. Even if your views are not the same as mine. We can not come to a solution without there being a respect for each others view. This is supposed to be a civil forum, but once again I see it becoming a place for those that don't want to discuss the issues, but those that want to voice their hate. I thought that ADMIN was going to start monitoring. Was the only reason I came back. Don't see that happening, so I will be leaving this forum again soon. I truly wish that I have to. But, I refuse to associate myself with negative people. There are more negative people here than positive.
When I come to this forum I'm looking for logical,... (show quote)


Always interested in civil discussion. Don't let the rabble rule you.

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Nov 15, 2017 22:45:28   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
PLT Sarge wrote:
When I come to this forum I'm looking for logical, disciplined, factual discussion. I understand that you have your opinion, I can respect that. State your position, state the facts supporting your position and I will be more than willing to have a discussion with you. Even if your views are not the same as mine. We can not come to a solution without there being a respect for each others view. This is supposed to be a civil forum, but once again I see it becoming a place for those that don't want to discuss the issues, but those that want to voice their hate. I thought that ADMIN was going to start monitoring. Was the only reason I came back. Don't see that happening, so I will be leaving this forum again soon. I truly wish that I have to. But, I refuse to associate myself with negative people. There are more negative people here than positive.
When I come to this forum I'm looking for logical,... (show quote)


OPP is infested with trolls Sarge, just ignore them. There are many herein that appreciate your contributions to the forums and wish you to stick around. Don't let the Lefty trolls drive you away too.

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Nov 15, 2017 22:49:33   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
PLT, there are many of us who do as your suggest.... but they are ignored by most of the population, so like me, they read the threads and only periodically will provide comments. In support of Admin, their staff is limited (I think there is only one) to read each thread and comment, so don't be too hard on them. You can help them out, report abuse by using the "report issue" button.

It is with sincere respect that I ask you to reconsider your plan to leave. Just patiently look for the reasonable contributors and try (although it is not easy) to ignore the others. Whatever you elect to do, I wish you all the best.

PLT Sarge wrote:
When I come to this forum I'm looking for logical, disciplined, factual discussion. I understand that you have your opinion, I can respect that. State your position, state the facts supporting your position and I will be more than willing to have a discussion with you. Even if your views are not the same as mine. We can not come to a solution without there being a respect for each others view. This is supposed to be a civil forum, but once again I see it becoming a place for those that don't want to discuss the issues, but those that want to voice their hate. I thought that ADMIN was going to start monitoring. Was the only reason I came back. Don't see that happening, so I will be leaving this forum again soon. I truly wish that I have to. But, I refuse to associate myself with negative people. There are more negative people here than positive.
When I come to this forum I'm looking for logical,... (show quote)

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Nov 15, 2017 23:41:49   #
kankune Loc: Iowa
 
PLT Sarge wrote:
When I come to this forum I'm looking for logical, disciplined, factual discussion. I understand that you have your opinion, I can respect that. State your position, state the facts supporting your position and I will be more than willing to have a discussion with you. Even if your views are not the same as mine. We can not come to a solution without there being a respect for each others view. This is supposed to be a civil forum, but once again I see it becoming a place for those that don't want to discuss the issues, but those that want to voice their hate. I thought that ADMIN was going to start monitoring. Was the only reason I came back. Don't see that happening, so I will be leaving this forum again soon. I truly wish that I have to. But, I refuse to associate myself with negative people. There are more negative people here than positive.
When I come to this forum I'm looking for logical,... (show quote)


Hey Sarge. I do hope you decide to stick around. With that being said, the grass is not always greener on the other side. When I am reading anything political online and I go down to the comments, oh my goodness. The vulgarity is beyond belief! This site seems to be mild compared to some I've read.

People are passionate about what they believe in and sometimes that passion just has to come out. I'm definitely one of them.

I can honestly say that some on here that I debate and yes, even argue with..I would miss them. I'm saying that with all sincerity. True....we don't agree and sometimes we get downright pissed at each other, but when it comes down to it, most of us ...no matter on what side of the scale we land on, would have each other's backs. Please hang in there with us and stick around...

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Nov 16, 2017 00:20:09   #
PLT Sarge Loc: Alabama
 
Passion and being stupid are two different things. I enjoy debate on passion, just give me facts.
kankune wrote:
Hey Sarge. I do hope you decide to stick around. With that being said, the grass is not always greener on the other side. When I am reading anything political online and I go down to the comments, oh my goodness. The vulgarity is beyond belief! This site seems to be mild compared to some I've read.

People are passionate about what they believe in and sometimes that passion just has to come out. I'm definitely one of them.

I can honestly say that some on here that I debate and yes, even argue with..I would miss them. I'm saying that with all sincerity. True....we don't agree and sometimes we get downright pissed at each other, but when it comes down to it, most of us ...no matter on what side of the scale we land on, would have each other's backs. Please hang in there with us and stick around...
Hey Sarge. I do hope you decide to stick around. W... (show quote)

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Nov 16, 2017 01:14:11   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
PLT Sarge wrote:
Passion and being stupid are two different things. I enjoy debate on passion, just give me facts.


Couldn’t agree more. Half the threads on OPP by the left start by calling Trump or somone that voted for him idiots, Nazi’s the list goes on. Pretty hard to have a civil discussion when that’s how it starts. I for one enjoy your commentary and wish you would stay. You add much to the forum.

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Nov 16, 2017 01:53:46   #
Hemiman Loc: Communist California
 
PLT Sarge wrote:
Passion and being stupid are two different things. I enjoy debate on passion, just give me facts.


You want facts here are some for you to chew on;you are a coward you are leaving because you are uncomfortable with the dialogue,well so what,we all are.You want to leave because the traitors on this forum don't want to play by your rules, well they don't have rules,they have a goal and that would be the complete destruction of out society our country.These people have dedicated themselves to the complete and total removal of anything American and when you or anyone that cares leaves the fight then the traitors have an open field to do whatever they want.Look around and see how this once great country has changed in 10 short years,how our freedoms and liberty have been evaporating,we are well on the way to Third world status.Some here are just misinformed but the hard core traitor knows exactly what they are doing.They are not interested in solutions,they don't want solutions,they want the America you and I have been blessed to have known to go away and they will do anything in their power to make that happen.Injustice,inequality,minority's and words like that mean nothing to them they are just a means to their end.

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Nov 16, 2017 09:38:54   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
Pennylynn wrote:
PLT, there are many of us who do as your suggest.... but they are ignored by most of the population, so like me, they read the threads and only periodically will provide comments. In support of Admin, their staff is limited (I think there is only one) to read each thread and comment, so don't be too hard on them. You can help them out, report abuse by using the "report issue" button.

It is with sincere respect that I ask you to reconsider your plan to leave. Just patiently look for the reasonable contributors and try (although it is not easy) to ignore the others. Whatever you elect to do, I wish you all the best.
PLT, there are many of us who do as your suggest..... (show quote)


I agree with you. There are several people to whom I have no responses. They are not worth the bother, or frustration. However, there are a number with whom I can have a reasonable conversation, even though I may not agree with them. Just like the rest of life, I know that ignoring the fools and flakes is necessary in order to maintain what ever sanity I still have left. (that I will leave up to others to judge)

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Nov 16, 2017 11:15:22   #
saltwind 78 Loc: Murrells Inlet, South Carolina
 
Sarge, Since many of the sources quoted on OPP are to say the least, unreliable, I like to use logic. Most of the time, I ignore the most outrageous posts, because they speak for themselves. I look forward to commenting on your posts.

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Nov 16, 2017 12:57:36   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
PLT Sarge wrote:
When I come to this forum I'm looking for logical, disciplined, factual discussion. I understand that you have your opinion, I can respect that. State your position, state the facts supporting your position and I will be more than willing to have a discussion with you. Even if your views are not the same as mine. We can not come to a solution without there being a respect for each others view. This is supposed to be a civil forum, but once again I see it becoming a place for those that don't want to discuss the issues, but those that want to voice their hate. I thought that ADMIN was going to start monitoring. Was the only reason I came back. Don't see that happening, so I will be leaving this forum again soon. I truly wish that I have to. But, I refuse to associate myself with negative people. There are more negative people here than positive.
When I come to this forum I'm looking for logical,... (show quote)



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Nov 16, 2017 14:03:49   #
Admin
 
PLT Sarge wrote:
I thought that ADMIN was going to start monitoring. Was the only reason I came back. Don't see that happening, so I will be leaving this forum again soon.



Well, you've submitted exactly zero reports. So if you aren't helping keep this place clean, what right do you have to complain about not enough being done?

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Nov 16, 2017 21:52:28   #
PLT Sarge Loc: Alabama
 
Well, well, well. I knew sooner or later someone would call me out. Sir, you just threw down the glove. I can agree with bout everything you said after you called be coward. I joined one month after High School 1974. We were in Ft Jackson when the Peace Accord was signed, if not, we would have been there. Came out, from 75 to 90, had missions all over the world. Then the first Gulf War, we were in NTC training to go. Back when we had real Generals, the War was over before we got through the training. Then Iraq 04-05. I was PLT Sarge running Escort convoys from Bagdad north on MSR TAMPA. Hemiman, if you don't understand the way I write, then you have not been there. Sir, how many times have you been on a convoy and have one of your vehicles hit by an IED and have to secure the site and recover the bodies. Have you ever seen what a burnt human body looks and smells like ? When I was on POST, I revolved as SOG. I was in charge of defending the gates and towers. Sir, Have you ever been in a Fire Fight with a Mob storming your gate? Have you ever had to see one of your people die ? Have you ever had to recover dead and wounded children. Have you ever had to pick up body parts and try to match them to the person they came from ? I SAID THAT I WAS BOUT TO LEAVE THIS FORUM, NOT BECAUSE I'M A COWARD. BUT FOR ALL THAT I HAVE SEEN AND HAVE HAD TO DO. THOSE HERE THAT ARE THROWING ALL THIS AWAY.
Hemiman wrote:
You want facts here are some for you to chew on;you are a coward you are leaving because you are uncomfortable with the dialogue,well so what,we all are.You want to leave because the traitors on this forum don't want to play by your rules, well they don't have rules,they have a goal and that would be the complete destruction of out society our country.These people have dedicated themselves to the complete and total removal of anything American and when you or anyone that cares leaves the fight then the traitors have an open field to do whatever they want.Look around and see how this once great country has changed in 10 short years,how our freedoms and liberty have been evaporating,we are well on the way to Third world status.Some here are just misinformed but the hard core traitor knows exactly what they are doing.They are not interested in solutions,they don't want solutions,they want the America you and I have been blessed to have known to go away and they will do anything in their power to make that happen.Injustice,inequality,minority's and words like that mean nothing to them they are just a means to their end.
You want facts here are some for you to chew on;yo... (show quote)

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Nov 16, 2017 23:37:36   #
Hemiman Loc: Communist California
 
PLT Sarge wrote:
Well, well, well. I knew sooner or later someone would call me out. Sir, you just threw down the glove. I can agree with bout everything you said after you called be coward. I joined one month after High School 1974. We were in Ft Jackson when the Peace Accord was signed, if not, we would have been there. Came out, from 75 to 90, had missions all over the world. Then the first Gulf War, we were in NTC training to go. Back when we had real Generals, the War was over before we got through the training. Then Iraq 04-05. I was PLT Sarge running Escort convoys from Bagdad north on MSR TAMPA. Hemiman, if you don't understand the way I write, then you have not been there. Sir, how many times have you been on a convoy and have one of your vehicles hit by an IED and have to secure the site and recover the bodies. Have you ever seen what a burnt human body looks and smells like ? When I was on POST, I revolved as SOG. I was in charge of defending the gates and towers. Sir, Have you ever been in a Fire Fight with a Mob storming your gate? Have you ever had to see one of your people die ? Have you ever had to recover dead and wounded children. Have you ever had to pick up body parts and try to match them to the person they came from ? I SAID THAT I WAS BOUT TO LEAVE THIS FORUM, NOT BECAUSE I'M A COWARD. BUT FOR ALL THAT I HAVE SEEN AND HAVE HAD TO DO. THOSE HERE THAT ARE THROWING ALL THIS AWAY.
Well, well, well. I knew sooner or later someone w... (show quote)


I called you that because you were leaving because no one would play by your rules so you were going to take your ball and bat and go home.It had nothing to do with your service,absoultly nothing.To answer your war questions I will simply say yes,yes I have in the jungles of Vietnam.Having said that I hope you can see where I would never reflect on your service.We have to be here to answer the liberal lies,they have no interest in solving anything,they want the soul of our country and nothing less.You say they want to throw it all away and yet you want to quit?Why?

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Nov 17, 2017 00:42:48   #
PLT Sarge Loc: Alabama
 
You still don't get it do you ? My only rules are the Bible and the Constitution. No, it has nothing to do with my service, agreed. I could take all my Ribbons to Starbucks and I bet could not get a coffee. Back home if you had made a statement like that, you better be ready to fight. All this being said, and all that our brothers and sisters have said that you are a good guy. I'm going to give you this, but you need to use your words more carefully.
Hemiman wrote:
I called you that because you were leaving because no one would play by your rules so you were going to take your ball and bat and go home.It had nothing to do with your service,absoultly nothing.To answer your war questions I will simply say yes,yes I have in the jungles of Vietnam.Having said that I hope you can see where I would never reflect on your service.We have to be here to answer the liberal lies,they have no interest in solving anything,they want the soul of our country and nothing less.You say they want to throw it all away and yet you want to quit?Why?
I called you that because you were leaving because... (show quote)

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