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Go to jail, get health insurance?
Feb 7, 2014 15:36:19   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
Here's a portion of the Bloomberg report:

At least six states and counties from Maryland to Oregon’s Multnomah are getting inmates coverage under Obamacare and its expansion of Medicaid, the federal and state health-care program for the poor. The fledgling movement would shift to the federal government some of the more than $6.5 billion in annual state costs for treating prisoners. Proponents say it also will make recidivism rarer, because inmates released with coverage are more likely to get treatment for mental illness, substance abuse and other conditions that can lead them to crime.

“When someone gets discharged from the jail and they don’t have insurance and they don’t have a plan, we can pretty much set our watch to when we’re going see them again,” said Ben Breit, a spokesman for the Cook County Sheriff’s Office.

The still-small programs could reach a vast population: At the end of 2012, almost 7 million people in the U.S. were on parole, probation, in prison or locked up in jail, according to the federal Bureau of Justice Statistics. About 13 million people are booked into county jails each year, according to the Washington-based National Association of Counties.

As the Obama administration touts the millions who've applied for coverage since the Affordable Care Act went into effect Oct. 1, Johnson referred to one study showing one-third of the new Medicaid enrollees will be inmates, parolees or people just released from prison.

O'Reilly Presses Obama: 'Was Health Insurance Pledge Your Biggest Mistake?'

"Who are the people that have signed up so far? Are they jail folks? Don't know," he said. Doocy pointed out that the data on enrollees has been hard to get from the administration to this point.

Johnson explained that more and more states could look to sign up inmates for the expanded Medicaid system so that they can pass the health care costs on to the federal government.

Supporters argue that by making sure inmates have coverage when they are released, it will make them less likely to re-offend and end up back in jail.

Do you agree?

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Feb 7, 2014 15:41:53   #
Unclet Loc: Amarillo, Tx
 
bmac32 wrote:
Here's a portion of the Bloomberg report:

At least six states and counties from Maryland to Oregon’s Multnomah are getting inmates coverage under Obamacare and its expansion of Medicaid, the federal and state health-care program for the poor. The fledgling movement would shift to the federal government some of the more than $6.5 billion in annual state costs for treating prisoners. Proponents say it also will make recidivism rarer, because inmates released with coverage are more likely to get treatment for mental illness, substance abuse and other conditions that can lead them to crime.

“When someone gets discharged from the jail and they don’t have insurance and they don’t have a plan, we can pretty much set our watch to when we’re going see them again,” said Ben Breit, a spokesman for the Cook County Sheriff’s Office.

The still-small programs could reach a vast population: At the end of 2012, almost 7 million people in the U.S. were on parole, probation, in prison or locked up in jail, according to the federal Bureau of Justice Statistics. About 13 million people are booked into county jails each year, according to the Washington-based National Association of Counties.

As the Obama administration touts the millions who've applied for coverage since the Affordable Care Act went into effect Oct. 1, Johnson referred to one study showing one-third of the new Medicaid enrollees will be inmates, parolees or people just released from prison.

O'Reilly Presses Obama: 'Was Health Insurance Pledge Your Biggest Mistake?'

"Who are the people that have signed up so far? Are they jail folks? Don't know," he said. Doocy pointed out that the data on enrollees has been hard to get from the administration to this point.

Johnson explained that more and more states could look to sign up inmates for the expanded Medicaid system so that they can pass the health care costs on to the federal government.

Supporters argue that by making sure inmates have coverage when they are released, it will make them less likely to re-offend and end up back in jail.

Do you agree?
Here's a portion of the Bloomberg report: br br ... (show quote)


Dumbest damn thing ever - criminals don't re-offend cause they don't have health insurance. They re-offend because they are criminals. Alternatively, because they don't want to work.

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Feb 7, 2014 16:11:07   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
The point is why are criminals being signed up, who's paying for that one?


Unclet wrote:
Dumbest damn thing ever - criminals don't re-offend cause they don't have health insurance. They re-offend because they are criminals. Alternatively, because they don't want to work.

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Feb 7, 2014 16:24:58   #
Glaucon
 
bmac32 wrote:
Here's a portion of the Bloomberg report:

At least six states and counties from Maryland to Oregon’s Multnomah are getting inmates coverage under Obamacare and its expansion of Medicaid, the federal and state health-care program for the poor. The fledgling movement would shift to the federal government some of the more than $6.5 billion in annual state costs for treating prisoners. Proponents say it also will make recidivism rarer, because inmates released with coverage are more likely to get treatment for mental illness, substance abuse and other conditions that can lead them to crime.

“When someone gets discharged from the jail and they don’t have insurance and they don’t have a plan, we can pretty much set our watch to when we’re going see them again,” said Ben Breit, a spokesman for the Cook County Sheriff’s Office.

The still-small programs could reach a vast population: At the end of 2012, almost 7 million people in the U.S. were on parole, probation, in prison or locked up in jail, according to the federal Bureau of Justice Statistics. About 13 million people are booked into county jails each year, according to the Washington-based National Association of Counties.

As the Obama administration touts the millions who've applied for coverage since the Affordable Care Act went into effect Oct. 1, Johnson referred to one study showing one-third of the new Medicaid enrollees will be inmates, parolees or people just released from prison.

O'Reilly Presses Obama: 'Was Health Insurance Pledge Your Biggest Mistake?'

"Who are the people that have signed up so far? Are they jail folks? Don't know," he said. Doocy pointed out that the data on enrollees has been hard to get from the administration to this point.

Johnson explained that more and more states could look to sign up inmates for the expanded Medicaid system so that they can pass the health care costs on to the federal government.

Supporters argue that by making sure inmates have coverage when they are released, it will make them less likely to re-offend and end up back in jail.

Do you agree?
Here's a portion of the Bloomberg report: br br ... (show quote)


“[The American President] has to take all sorts of abuse from liars and demagogues.… The people can never understand why the President does not use his supposedly great power to make ’em behave. Well, all the President is, is a glorified public relations man who spends his time flattering, kissing and kicking people to get them to do what they are supposed to do anyway.”
― Harry S. Truman

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Feb 7, 2014 18:03:53   #
3jack
 
City, county, state, and federal facilities are required to provide medical services for those incarcerated. The attempt to transfer the financial responsibility for the care and treatment of inmates to a national healthcare program is probably illegal. Medicaid care is provided on an individually requested basis, so there are no mechanisms to request blanket enrollment approval for an infinite number of unnamed people. This story just might not be true.

bmac32 wrote:
Here's a portion of the Bloomberg report:

At least six states and counties from Maryland to Oregon’s Multnomah are getting inmates coverage under Obamacare and its expansion of Medicaid, the federal and state health-care program for the poor. The fledgling movement would shift to the federal government some of the more than $6.5 billion in annual state costs for treating prisoners. Proponents say it also will make recidivism rarer, because inmates released with coverage are more likely to get treatment for mental illness, substance abuse and other conditions that can lead them to crime.

“When someone gets discharged from the jail and they don’t have insurance and they don’t have a plan, we can pretty much set our watch to when we’re going see them again,” said Ben Breit, a spokesman for the Cook County Sheriff’s Office.

The still-small programs could reach a vast population: At the end of 2012, almost 7 million people in the U.S. were on parole, probation, in prison or locked up in jail, according to the federal Bureau of Justice Statistics. About 13 million people are booked into county jails each year, according to the Washington-based National Association of Counties.

As the Obama administration touts the millions who've applied for coverage since the Affordable Care Act went into effect Oct. 1, Johnson referred to one study showing one-third of the new Medicaid enrollees will be inmates, parolees or people just released from prison.

O'Reilly Presses Obama: 'Was Health Insurance Pledge Your Biggest Mistake?'

"Who are the people that have signed up so far? Are they jail folks? Don't know," he said. Doocy pointed out that the data on enrollees has been hard to get from the administration to this point.

Johnson explained that more and more states could look to sign up inmates for the expanded Medicaid system so that they can pass the health care costs on to the federal government.

Supporters argue that by making sure inmates have coverage when they are released, it will make them less likely to re-offend and end up back in jail.

Do you agree?
Here's a portion of the Bloomberg report: br br ... (show quote)

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Feb 7, 2014 18:43:53   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
Great way to jack numbers. As they get out they (according to the LAW) need coverage, who pays? Did they make sure inmates get paid at least minimum wage?



3jack wrote:
City, county, state, and federal facilities are required to provide medical services for those incarcerated. The attempt to transfer the financial responsibility for the care and treatment of inmates to a national healthcare program is probably illegal. Medicaid care is provided on an individually requested basis, so there are no mechanisms to request blanket enrollment approval for an infinite number of unnamed people. This story just might not be true.

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Feb 8, 2014 04:47:23   #
ibKelly
 
Unclet wrote:
Dumbest damn thing ever - criminals don't re-offend cause they don't have health insurance. They re-offend because they are criminals. Alternatively, because they don't want to work.


Don't forget the FREE meals they get each day too... besides not having to work!!!

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Feb 8, 2014 06:01:22   #
hprinze Loc: Central Florida
 
bmac32 wrote:
The point is why are criminals being signed up, who's paying for that one?


They're being signed up so the Obama handlers can point to the large numbers of people signing up for Obamacare. They don't mention who those signees are, just tout the numbers. Look for all federal and most state prisoners to be on Obamacare at your expense.

And incidentally, those people in ptison are prisoners, they are not inmates. There is a difference.

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Feb 8, 2014 08:51:34   #
deb_bus Loc: fort worth and wichita falls tx, and houston
 
They get free healthcare anyway, while in jail. To get it for free, through the ACA, when they get out is not good. They will probably just get on welfare or live off of their girl/boyfriend anyway. To get free healthcare, after they get out, would be an outrage. They need to work and provide their own healthcare. Just like the non-criminals. It's probably another way oscandal is increasing his numbers of people enrolled.

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Feb 8, 2014 09:41:27   #
ibKelly
 
deb_bus wrote:
They get free healthcare anyway, while in jail. To get it for free, through the ACA, when they get out is not good. They will probably just get on welfare or live off of their girl/boyfriend anyway. To get free healthcare, after they get out, would be an outrage. They need to work and provide their own healthcare. Just like the non-criminals. It's probably another way oscandal is increasing his numbers of people enrolled.


I used to go to this Medical Center which is really a training school/hospital which is massive, and while I was sitting in there waiting for my prescriptions, they would have prisoners waiting in there too with guards.... but I had seen them bringing them in on buses to this hospital from where ever they came from cause they had bars on the bus. So yeah.. they get free medical... you're right.

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Feb 8, 2014 10:49:48   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
Maybe that's what democrats want, jail. Free food, free roof over their head, free medical, free dental, free cable access and all the drugs they want.



ibKelly wrote:
I used to go to this Medical Center which is really a training school/hospital which is massive, and while I was sitting in there waiting for my prescriptions, they would have prisoners waiting in there too with guards.... but I had seen them bringing them in on buses to this hospital from where ever they came from cause they had bars on the bus. So yeah.. they get free medical... you're right.

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Feb 8, 2014 16:50:54   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
bmac32 wrote:
Here's a portion of the Bloomberg report:

At least six states and counties from Maryland to Oregon’s Multnomah are getting inmates coverage under Obamacare and its expansion of Medicaid, the federal and state health-care program for the poor. The fledgling movement would shift to the federal government some of the more than $6.5 billion in annual state costs for treating prisoners. Proponents say it also will make recidivism rarer, because inmates released with coverage are more likely to get treatment for mental illness, substance abuse and other conditions that can lead them to crime.

“When someone gets discharged from the jail and they don’t have insurance and they don’t have a plan, we can pretty much set our watch to when we’re going see them again,” said Ben Breit, a spokesman for the Cook County Sheriff’s Office.

The still-small programs could reach a vast population: At the end of 2012, almost 7 million people in the U.S. were on parole, probation, in prison or locked up in jail, according to the federal Bureau of Justice Statistics. About 13 million people are booked into county jails each year, according to the Washington-based National Association of Counties.

As the Obama administration touts the millions who've applied for coverage since the Affordable Care Act went into effect Oct. 1, Johnson referred to one study showing one-third of the new Medicaid enrollees will be inmates, parolees or people just released from prison.

O'Reilly Presses Obama: 'Was Health Insurance Pledge Your Biggest Mistake?'

"Who are the people that have signed up so far? Are they jail folks? Don't know," he said. Doocy pointed out that the data on enrollees has been hard to get from the administration to this point.

Johnson explained that more and more states could look to sign up inmates for the expanded Medicaid system so that they can pass the health care costs on to the federal government.

Supporters argue that by making sure inmates have coverage when they are released, it will make them less likely to re-offend and end up back in jail.

Do you agree?
Here's a portion of the Bloomberg report: br br ... (show quote)



Maybe for a few, but it's sort of like using a shotgun to kill flies.

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Feb 8, 2014 17:14:45   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
If that's what it takes it leaves nothing to chance.


BigMike wrote:
Maybe for a few, but it's sort of like using a shotgun to kill flies.

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Feb 8, 2014 21:59:26   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
bmac32 wrote:
If that's what it takes it leaves nothing to chance.


As long as you pay for it I don't have a problem. Otherwise I would argue for self-sufficiency first and efficiency second. Either of those concepts are oxymorons when used in the same sentence with "government".

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