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Oct 17, 2017 07:31:59   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/raqqa-isis-battle-syria-defeat-latest-lost-us-sdf-rebel-monitoring-group-a8004581.html

MAGA

Baby steps in taking back all of the ground Obama gave to terrorists...

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Oct 17, 2017 08:02:26   #
PeterS
 
Super Dave wrote:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/raqqa-isis-battle-syria-defeat-latest-lost-us-sdf-rebel-monitoring-group-a8004581.html

MAGA

Baby steps in taking back all of the ground Obama gave to terrorists...


Taking it back by doing exactly what Obama was already doing...

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Oct 17, 2017 08:04:11   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
PeterS wrote:
Taking it back by doing exactly what Obama was already doing...


Obama did take back a small portion of what he gave to the terrorists, if that's what you mean...

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Oct 17, 2017 09:00:16   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Super Dave wrote:
Obama did take back a small portion of what he gave to the terrorists, if that's what you mean...




It is only the work by Obama and his coalition which enabled these victories..

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/iraqi-forces-defeat-isis-mosul-barack-obama-strategy-coalition-air-strike-training-a7834196.html

Pictures of the Iraqi soldiers celebrating their defeat of Isis in Mosul marked a milestone in the fight against the Islamist group but it was also a victory for Barack Obama's strategy in the region, a senior Pentagon official has said.

While the Iraqi armed forces staged an exhausting nine-month siege around the city of Mosul, the US-led air campaign in Iraq and Syria initiated by the former president appears to have proved successful in weakening Isis forces.

The US and its allies, including but not limited to the UK, Canada, France, Germany, the Netherlands and Turkey, also provided continual training and advised proxy local forces without sending their own troops into action.

Pentagon officials told the AFP news agency that the outcome in Mosul was clear and that the Iraqi military had become a battle-hardened army which eventually prevailed.

One senior US military official who was deployed to Iraq from 2015 said the "training worked".

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Oct 17, 2017 09:35:04   #
Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas
 
PeterS wrote:
Taking it back by doing exactly what Obama was already doing...




That would be called the waiting game, a game like that only bears fruit when it involves a pregnant wife......or girl friend, if one feels so inclined to have both.

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Oct 17, 2017 12:33:10   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
permafrost wrote:
It is only the work by Obama and his coalition which enabled these victories..

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/iraqi-forces-defeat-isis-mosul-barack-obama-strategy-coalition-air-strike-training-a7834196.html

Pictures of the Iraqi soldiers celebrating their defeat of Isis in Mosul marked a milestone in the fight against the Islamist group but it was also a victory for Barack Obama's strategy in the region, a senior Pentagon official has said.

While the Iraqi armed forces staged an exhausting nine-month siege around the city of Mosul, the US-led air campaign in Iraq and Syria initiated by the former president appears to have proved successful in weakening Isis forces.

The US and its allies, including but not limited to the UK, Canada, France, Germany, the Netherlands and Turkey, also provided continual training and advised proxy local forces without sending their own troops into action.

Pentagon officials told the AFP news agency that the outcome in Mosul was clear and that the Iraqi military had become a battle-hardened army which eventually prevailed.

One senior US military official who was deployed to Iraq from 2015 said the "training worked".
It is only the work by Obama and his coalition whi... (show quote)
You mean the guy that gave up the territory to ISIS to begin with?

So Obama got back 16% of the territory he lost and you're expecting someone to kiss his ass?

Do you have lower standards for Obama because he's black or because he's a Democrat?

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Oct 17, 2017 12:50:06   #
Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas
 
Super Dave wrote:
You mean the guy that gave up the territory to ISIS to begin with?

So Obama got back 16% of the territory he lost and you're expecting someone to kiss his ass?

Do you have lower standards for Obama because he's black or because he's a Democrat?




Both.

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Oct 17, 2017 14:45:18   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Super Dave wrote:
You mean the guy that gave up the territory to ISIS to begin with?

So Obama got back 16% of the territory he lost and you're expecting someone to kiss his ass?

Do you have lower standards for Obama because he's black or because he's a Democrat?




It is clear you do not live in the same world as the rest of us..

What sort of a nut case are you?

You think that trumps 30 day plan was simply a little late?

read all of this.. the rest of the world did long ago... https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/22/world/middleeast/rex-tillerson-isis.html

Trump’s ISIS Plan, as Described by Tillerson, Sounds Like Obama’s


But in the Trump administration’s first major announcement of its still-nascent plans to defeat the militants, Secretary of State Rex W. Tillerson on Wednesday closely parroted Mr. Obama’s strategy. His comments came as talk of fighting the Islamic State was overshadowed by an attack in London that killed four and injured 40. It was not immediately clear who was responsible for the attack, or if the Islamic State was linked to it.

“The great commonality among we who have gathered today is a commitment to bringing down a global force of evil,” Mr. Tillerson said at the start of a conclave of the 68-nation coalition to defeat the Islamic State that was held at State Department headquarters.

In his 20-minute speech, Mr. Tillerson noted that over the past year, the flow of foreign fighters into Iraq and Syria had dropped more than 90 percent, and that 75 percent of the Islamic State’s online propaganda had been eliminated. Both gains occurred largely on Mr. Obama’s watch.

“Reflecting on the past year or so, we should be encouraged by the significant progress we as a coalition are making,” Mr. Tillerson said.


Mr. Trump has long insisted that citing “radical Islamic terrorism” is key to defeating the Islamic State. “You can’t solve a problem if you refuse to talk about what the problem is,” he said in November 2015. Yet Mr. Tillerson used those three words together only once — when he requested that Saudi Arabia and Egypt do more to combat extremism.

Instead, in front of a room full of diplomats, including many from Muslim countries where Mr. Trump’s favored phrase is viewed as offensive, Mr. Tillerson emphasized a sympathetic view of Islam. He rejected characterizations by Michael T. Flynn, the retired Army general and former national security adviser to Mr. Trump, that the religion is a “malignant cancer.”

“We also must look this enemy’s ideology in the eyes for what it is: a warped interpretation of Islam that threatens all of our people,” Mr. Tillerson said in yet another passage that could have come from the playbook. He cited King Abdullah II of Jordan, who recently said of the extremists, “Everything they are, everything they do, is a blatant violation of my faith.”

Jon Finer, chief of staff under former Secretary of State John Kerry, said Mr. Tillerson’s speech felt very familiar.

“It was good to hear both that progress continues to be made in this critical fight, and that, after months of baseless criticism, the new administration seems to have decided to stick with a strategy that is working,” Mr. Finer said.

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Oct 17, 2017 15:15:34   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
permafrost wrote:
It is clear you do not live in the same world as the rest of us..

What sort of a nut case are you?

You think that trumps 30 day plan was simply a little late?

read all of this.. the rest of the world did long ago... https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/22/world/middleeast/rex-tillerson-isis.html

Trump’s ISIS Plan, as Described by Tillerson, Sounds Like Obama’s


But in the Trump administration’s first major announcement of its still-nascent plans to defeat the militants, Secretary of State Rex W. Tillerson on Wednesday closely parroted Mr. Obama’s strategy. His comments came as talk of fighting the Islamic State was overshadowed by an attack in London that killed four and injured 40. It was not immediately clear who was responsible for the attack, or if the Islamic State was linked to it.

“The great commonality among we who have gathered today is a commitment to bringing down a global force of evil,” Mr. Tillerson said at the start of a conclave of the 68-nation coalition to defeat the Islamic State that was held at State Department headquarters.

In his 20-minute speech, Mr. Tillerson noted that over the past year, the flow of foreign fighters into Iraq and Syria had dropped more than 90 percent, and that 75 percent of the Islamic State’s online propaganda had been eliminated. Both gains occurred largely on Mr. Obama’s watch.

“Reflecting on the past year or so, we should be encouraged by the significant progress we as a coalition are making,” Mr. Tillerson said.


Mr. Trump has long insisted that citing “radical Islamic terrorism” is key to defeating the Islamic State. “You can’t solve a problem if you refuse to talk about what the problem is,” he said in November 2015. Yet Mr. Tillerson used those three words together only once — when he requested that Saudi Arabia and Egypt do more to combat extremism.

Instead, in front of a room full of diplomats, including many from Muslim countries where Mr. Trump’s favored phrase is viewed as offensive, Mr. Tillerson emphasized a sympathetic view of Islam. He rejected characterizations by Michael T. Flynn, the retired Army general and former national security adviser to Mr. Trump, that the religion is a “malignant cancer.”

“We also must look this enemy’s ideology in the eyes for what it is: a warped interpretation of Islam that threatens all of our people,” Mr. Tillerson said in yet another passage that could have come from the playbook. He cited King Abdullah II of Jordan, who recently said of the extremists, “Everything they are, everything they do, is a blatant violation of my faith.”

Jon Finer, chief of staff under former Secretary of State John Kerry, said Mr. Tillerson’s speech felt very familiar.

“It was good to hear both that progress continues to be made in this critical fight, and that, after months of baseless criticism, the new administration seems to have decided to stick with a strategy that is working,” Mr. Finer said.
It is clear you do not live in the same world as t... (show quote)
This shows how we are different.
I always hoped America would succeed under Obama, but America's success under Trump really pisses you off.

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Oct 17, 2017 17:12:28   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Super Dave wrote:
This shows how we are different.
I always hoped America would succeed under Obama, but America's success under Trump really pisses you off.



do you not read?

It is Obama work that is still being used.

the orange man has done nothing..

I would be happy if trump did something good for America.

But he never planned to do anything like that and he never will.

No surprise at all..



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Oct 17, 2017 18:17:51   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
permafrost wrote:
do you not read?

It is Obama work that is still being used.

the orange man has done nothing..

I would be happy if trump did something good for America.

But he never planned to do anything like that and he never will.

No surprise at all..
Obama's work in the ME was mostly helping ISIS take territory and helping Iran get nukes.

There has been a big change since Trump took office as CIC. A pro-American change.

It's now permissable for the military to hurt the terrorists' feelings.

The terrorists are surrendering in droves, because they know America's CIC now has balls.

But you kiss Obama's ass of you want. Pretend ISIS is surrendering to him.

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Oct 17, 2017 18:48:56   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Super Dave wrote:
Obama's work in the ME was mostly helping ISIS take territory and helping Iran get nukes.

There has been a big change since Trump took office as CIC. A pro-American change.

It's now permissable for the military to hurt the terrorists' feelings.

The terrorists are surrendering in droves, because they know America's CIC now has balls.

But you kiss Obama's ass of you want. Pretend ISIS is surrendering to him.




Obama helping ISIS????? Please tell me you are not that stupid to believe such a dumb lie..

trump turned the situation over to his military to do as they needed.. they kept the stratagy set up during Obama term..

the terrorists are surrendering in droves.. that is due to months of successful tactics by the US and the coalition..

The orange turd did not change a thing. All he had was talk and more talk.. as he does every day..

they are not surrendering to Obama in person, but they sure as hell are not at the golf club to surrender to the orange pus bag..

This was his high light of military thought
This was his high light of military thought...

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Oct 18, 2017 20:26:54   #
plotto
 
May have started with your savior obummer but victory only happens after President Trump allowed the solidiers to engage the enemy. Can't win a war if you can't shoot the enemy.

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Oct 18, 2017 20:48:26   #
PeterS
 
Super Dave wrote:
Obama did take back a small portion of what he gave to the terrorists, if that's what you mean...


No, train local troops to fight ISIS and take back the ground lost.

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Oct 18, 2017 20:50:54   #
PeterS
 
Super Dave wrote:
Obama's work in the ME was mostly helping ISIS take territory and helping Iran get nukes.

There has been a big change since Trump took office as CIC. A pro-American change.

It's now permissable for the military to hurt the terrorists' feelings.

The terrorists are surrendering in droves, because they know America's CIC now has balls.

But you kiss Obama's ass of you want. Pretend ISIS is surrendering to him.


Iran got Nukes? Man, I learn something new everyday....

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