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The Left has no clue
Oct 3, 2017 20:47:55 #
Surprise: MSNBC Host Has NO CLUE About the Concept of God-Given Rights
By Andrew
Every once in a while, a liberal pundit will accidentally give you a wide-open view into their mindset, and it explains so much about the left and why they are the way that they are.
This time around, we have NBC’s “Meet the Press” host Chuck Todd to thank for yet another revealing glimpse into the dark heart of the American left. These glimpses are disturbing, but we urge you to look. Because when they come around, they shed so much light on why the left is so dangerous and why they must never be allowed to realize their goals. Their success is America’s defeat. They HATE this country, they don’t UNDERSTAND this country, and they will do everything they can to make it so that this country becomes something that would horrify the brilliant men who founded the United States.
Hilariously enough, Todd’s gaffe came when he was trying to make Judge Roy Moore – the man who just won the Republican primary for the Alabama Senate – look like a Christian extremist who would be a disaster for the country.
“Our rights don’t come from government,” Moore said in a clip played on MSNBC. “They don’t come from the Bill of Rights. They come from Almighty God.”
This clip, Todd informed viewers, was an indication that Moore “doesn’t appear to believe in the Constitution as it’s written.” His remarks, Todd said, are “a taste of the very fundamentalist views that have gotten him removed from office, twice, as Alabama’s chief justice.”
Of course, any conservative can tell you that Moore’s remarks are not only in line with the Constitution and the ideas of the Founding Fathers, but should be considered completely uncontroversial by anyone who has studied American history.
In no less a right-wing, extremist document than the Declaration of Independence does it say, “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.”
Endowed by their Creator. That’s in one of this country’s most hallowed and fundamental texts, but if you say it today, you’re some kind of religious whacko who shouldn’t be within 100 miles of an elected seat? That’s…interesting.
The left wants to remake this country. That much you already knew. But they are so, so sly and clever about it, and that’s why we have to watch them like a hawk. Because the easiest way to change something is to make people believe that the something is ALREADY something else. That’s what the left excels at, and that’s what makes them so very dangerous.
It also proves their stupidity when it comes to cognitive thinking! LDS
By Andrew
Every once in a while, a liberal pundit will accidentally give you a wide-open view into their mindset, and it explains so much about the left and why they are the way that they are.
This time around, we have NBC’s “Meet the Press” host Chuck Todd to thank for yet another revealing glimpse into the dark heart of the American left. These glimpses are disturbing, but we urge you to look. Because when they come around, they shed so much light on why the left is so dangerous and why they must never be allowed to realize their goals. Their success is America’s defeat. They HATE this country, they don’t UNDERSTAND this country, and they will do everything they can to make it so that this country becomes something that would horrify the brilliant men who founded the United States.
Hilariously enough, Todd’s gaffe came when he was trying to make Judge Roy Moore – the man who just won the Republican primary for the Alabama Senate – look like a Christian extremist who would be a disaster for the country.
“Our rights don’t come from government,” Moore said in a clip played on MSNBC. “They don’t come from the Bill of Rights. They come from Almighty God.”
This clip, Todd informed viewers, was an indication that Moore “doesn’t appear to believe in the Constitution as it’s written.” His remarks, Todd said, are “a taste of the very fundamentalist views that have gotten him removed from office, twice, as Alabama’s chief justice.”
Of course, any conservative can tell you that Moore’s remarks are not only in line with the Constitution and the ideas of the Founding Fathers, but should be considered completely uncontroversial by anyone who has studied American history.
In no less a right-wing, extremist document than the Declaration of Independence does it say, “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.”
Endowed by their Creator. That’s in one of this country’s most hallowed and fundamental texts, but if you say it today, you’re some kind of religious whacko who shouldn’t be within 100 miles of an elected seat? That’s…interesting.
The left wants to remake this country. That much you already knew. But they are so, so sly and clever about it, and that’s why we have to watch them like a hawk. Because the easiest way to change something is to make people believe that the something is ALREADY something else. That’s what the left excels at, and that’s what makes them so very dangerous.
It also proves their stupidity when it comes to cognitive thinking! LDS
Oct 3, 2017 21:08:28 #
ldsuttonjr wrote:
Surprise: MSNBC Host Has NO CLUE About the Concept... (show quote)
But Moore was removed from office, TWICE, for having fundamentalist views and Jefferson was a Deist so "Creator" was a naturalist term for the force that created man--be it nature or a god--he didn't know for sure...
And stupidity when it comes to cognitive thinking? Mr Andrew shouldn't write about things he knows nothing about or at least study what the founders meant when they wrote our founding documents.
Oct 3, 2017 21:16:45 #
PeterS wrote:
But Moore was removed from office, TWICE, for having fundamentalist views and Jefferson was a Deist so "Creator" was a naturalist term for the force that created man--be it nature or a god--he didn't know for sure...
And stupidity when it comes to cognitive thinking? Mr Andrew shouldn't write about things he knows nothing about or at least study what the founders meant when they wrote our founding documents.
And stupidity when it comes to cognitive thinking? Mr Andrew shouldn't write about things he knows nothing about or at least study what the founders meant when they wrote our founding documents.
peterdick: Roy Moore was removed from office by activist judge's assessments! This activism is on a collision course with the Constitution! Conservatism will bury you and all your ilk!!!
Oct 3, 2017 22:45:54 #
ldsuttonjr wrote:
Surprise: MSNBC Host Has NO CLUE About the Concept... (show quote)
Are you for real or just totally ignorant to what is actually in the constitution. Roy Moore compares homosexuality to Beasteality
Now let's address what Chuck Todd was talking about the Constitution says Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of reliable. Todd was correct and as usual you lack an understanding of what's in the Constitution
Oct 3, 2017 23:12:00 #
tdsrnest wrote:
Are you for real or just totally ignorant to what is actually in the constitution. Roy Moore compares homosexuality to Beasteality
Now let's address what Chuck Todd was talking about the Constitution says Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of reliable. Todd was correct and as usual you lack an understanding of what's in the Constitution
Now let's address what Chuck Todd was talking about the Constitution says Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of reliable. Todd was correct and as usual you lack an understanding of what's in the Constitution
turdboy: Your insane!.....Homosexuality is evil & un-natural! Any Cultural Anthropologist worth his weight will confirm it! You wouldn't know the Constitution if you were even constipated! Idiot supreme!
Oct 4, 2017 06:41:09 #
Judge Roy Moore was first removed from office for refusing to remove the 'Ten Commandments' from the 'Alabama State Supreme Court', the same 'Ten Commandments' that are in the 'US Supreme Court', as well as a statue of Moses on the gable above the entrance to the 'US Supreme Court'.
Judge Roy Moore was again removed from office for questioning rather the state of Alabama should enforce it's laws, or accept a ruling of the 'US Supreme Court' as changing that law before the Alabama legislature had a chance to review the ruling and change the law. It was again a question of each states' sovereignty, and the question of whether or not the 'US Supreme Court' has the right to change Alabama law.
Both of these were reasonable decisions that were used as political motives to remove a conservative from the 'Alabama State Supreme Court' by the liberals, progressives, and Democrats, who are very unpopular in the state of Alabama, as they are in most states across the USA.
What the 'Founding Fathers' meant when using the word "Creator" in the 'Declaration of Independence' was 'GOD', for as all were Christians, and they all knew that GOD was the creator of everything, even their rights and freedoms.
'Websters Standard Dictionary' definition of a 'Deist' is - "One who believes in creation by a supreme being (GOD) who abstains from involvement in the world or it's inhabitants." This means GOD created everything, man and his rights, but allows a free will in our decisions as what we do in His creation.
The 'Founding Fathers' meant what they wrote, not what the liberals try to twist and spin into something that they want people to believe that achieves their agendas over what was the heritage given to all the American people. A clear example of this is in the 1st Amendment of the 'US Constitution' which says, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;..." That means only that Congress shall make no law about religion, but also cannot abolish religious exercise by anyone, even those that have government jobs or elected positions in government, or anyone on public or government property, as all the 'Founding Fathers' did when holding government jobs or positions, as they still do today in the 'US Congress' and 'US Supreme Court', but then try to deny the same for the common people in state and local governments, by claiming their is a seperation of state and religion clause in the 'US Constiotution' that doesn't exist, and never has.
Common sense trumps stupidity, but liberals want their politcal correctness to trump common sense, but intelligent people won't accept what liberals try to force on them in order to achieve their liberal goals and agendas. This is what makes Roy Moore such a very good individual who will make a great law maker, and who has more incite on what the 'Founding Fathers' meant and wanted for the USA and it's American people, not wanting to change the USA into something that takes away their Creator's unalienable endowed Rifgts of Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness.
Pursuit of Happiness is the individuals right to choose what is best for themselves, rather it truly be or not, and allowed to pursue their choice, instead of some government elitist deciding what is best for them, and then forcing them to accept what the government elitist has chosen for them, instead of pursuing their own choice. That is what is actually unconstitutional in Obamacare, it usurps the people's right to choose for themselves on whether they want or need healthcare insurance, and instead forces everyone to purchase a specific healthcare policy in order to make it become cheaper for those who do want to purchase healthcare policies, which has been proven a lie, but still gives the government the right to force their will on people who wish to choose differently through the Creator's unalienable endowed Right of their Pursuit of Happiness.
By the way, how do you know that Jefferson believed that "the 'Creator' was a naturalist term for the force that created man--be it nature or a god--he didn't know for sure..."? Did he tell you that, or is it that you can read the minds of dead people, because I have read a lot about Thomas Jefferson, and nowhere have I found him writing anything like that.
Judge Roy Moore was again removed from office for questioning rather the state of Alabama should enforce it's laws, or accept a ruling of the 'US Supreme Court' as changing that law before the Alabama legislature had a chance to review the ruling and change the law. It was again a question of each states' sovereignty, and the question of whether or not the 'US Supreme Court' has the right to change Alabama law.
Both of these were reasonable decisions that were used as political motives to remove a conservative from the 'Alabama State Supreme Court' by the liberals, progressives, and Democrats, who are very unpopular in the state of Alabama, as they are in most states across the USA.
What the 'Founding Fathers' meant when using the word "Creator" in the 'Declaration of Independence' was 'GOD', for as all were Christians, and they all knew that GOD was the creator of everything, even their rights and freedoms.
'Websters Standard Dictionary' definition of a 'Deist' is - "One who believes in creation by a supreme being (GOD) who abstains from involvement in the world or it's inhabitants." This means GOD created everything, man and his rights, but allows a free will in our decisions as what we do in His creation.
The 'Founding Fathers' meant what they wrote, not what the liberals try to twist and spin into something that they want people to believe that achieves their agendas over what was the heritage given to all the American people. A clear example of this is in the 1st Amendment of the 'US Constitution' which says, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;..." That means only that Congress shall make no law about religion, but also cannot abolish religious exercise by anyone, even those that have government jobs or elected positions in government, or anyone on public or government property, as all the 'Founding Fathers' did when holding government jobs or positions, as they still do today in the 'US Congress' and 'US Supreme Court', but then try to deny the same for the common people in state and local governments, by claiming their is a seperation of state and religion clause in the 'US Constiotution' that doesn't exist, and never has.
Common sense trumps stupidity, but liberals want their politcal correctness to trump common sense, but intelligent people won't accept what liberals try to force on them in order to achieve their liberal goals and agendas. This is what makes Roy Moore such a very good individual who will make a great law maker, and who has more incite on what the 'Founding Fathers' meant and wanted for the USA and it's American people, not wanting to change the USA into something that takes away their Creator's unalienable endowed Rifgts of Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness.
Pursuit of Happiness is the individuals right to choose what is best for themselves, rather it truly be or not, and allowed to pursue their choice, instead of some government elitist deciding what is best for them, and then forcing them to accept what the government elitist has chosen for them, instead of pursuing their own choice. That is what is actually unconstitutional in Obamacare, it usurps the people's right to choose for themselves on whether they want or need healthcare insurance, and instead forces everyone to purchase a specific healthcare policy in order to make it become cheaper for those who do want to purchase healthcare policies, which has been proven a lie, but still gives the government the right to force their will on people who wish to choose differently through the Creator's unalienable endowed Right of their Pursuit of Happiness.
By the way, how do you know that Jefferson believed that "the 'Creator' was a naturalist term for the force that created man--be it nature or a god--he didn't know for sure..."? Did he tell you that, or is it that you can read the minds of dead people, because I have read a lot about Thomas Jefferson, and nowhere have I found him writing anything like that.
PeterS wrote:
But Moore was removed from office, TWICE, for having fundamentalist views and Jefferson was a Deist so "Creator" was a naturalist term for the force that created man--be it nature or a god--he didn't know for sure...
And stupidity when it comes to cognitive thinking? Mr Andrew shouldn't write about things he knows nothing about or at least study what the founders meant when they wrote our founding documents.
And stupidity when it comes to cognitive thinking? Mr Andrew shouldn't write about things he knows nothing about or at least study what the founders meant when they wrote our founding documents.
Oct 4, 2017 06:59:03 #
Regardless of what you think, homosexual activity, no matter if your little rants are based on facts, or not. But being a citizen of these united states, AND, according to the Constitution of these united states, you the right to pursue homosexual activity...That is whether you like it or not, but you do have your rights also, and that right is, to voice your opinion.
I don't really care for that type activity myself, and a real fact is, that God calls the activity an abomination, and a sin. But ranting, and name calling, is useless in a situation like this. But, with your own personal rights, which gives you the right to participate in the activity, or not.
I really don't care for abortions either...But having an abortion is a woman's right (It's her body to do with as she pleases), but God gave her the body, and when she stands before God, and he questions her about the abortion, I hope she can provide God with a good reason for her actions...If she can't...Oh Well!!
And if a person (Male or female) should decide that being a homosexual, is their preferred choice for sexual pleasure, they will be question by God also, about their choice to humiliate themselves, just because the Constitution gave them the right to do so, and they decided to defy, and ignore his law...And it is very plain to see, and read...I hope they have a good reason for committing the acts, if not...Oh Well !!!
I don't really care for that type activity myself, and a real fact is, that God calls the activity an abomination, and a sin. But ranting, and name calling, is useless in a situation like this. But, with your own personal rights, which gives you the right to participate in the activity, or not.
I really don't care for abortions either...But having an abortion is a woman's right (It's her body to do with as she pleases), but God gave her the body, and when she stands before God, and he questions her about the abortion, I hope she can provide God with a good reason for her actions...If she can't...Oh Well!!
And if a person (Male or female) should decide that being a homosexual, is their preferred choice for sexual pleasure, they will be question by God also, about their choice to humiliate themselves, just because the Constitution gave them the right to do so, and they decided to defy, and ignore his law...And it is very plain to see, and read...I hope they have a good reason for committing the acts, if not...Oh Well !!!
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Oct 4, 2017 07:44:13 #
ldsuttonjr wrote:
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Our rights don't come from God, if they did: we would be living in a Theocracy.
Oct 4, 2017 10:17:13 #
According to the 'Founding Fathers' and the 'Declaration of Independence' they do come from GOD. Otherwise any government of any type, any dictator, or the King of Great Britain, George III, could take them from you. King George III did take them from the American colonists, and in doing so started the American colonist to seek independence from Great Britain, causing the 'American Revolutionary War', and is now the heritage given to all Americans by those 'Founding Fathers'. The reason being is that anything that is endowed by GOD, can't be taken away by men or governments, being unalienable they belong to each individual and can then only be taken by GOD, who endowed them upon all mankind, and ensures those human rights belong to every human being, not to governments and other men in power, that wants you to believe that they allow you to have them, and therefore can take them from you at any time they choose. This gives all mankind the moral authority to fight against anyone or any government for their human rights, that have been unalienably endowed on them by their Creator (GOD), and belongs to them for as long as they may live.
Dummy Boy wrote:
Our rights don't come from God, if they did: we would be living in a Theocracy.
Oct 4, 2017 11:01:57 #
poppabear42 wrote:
Regardless of what you think, homosexual activity,... (show quote)
poppabear42: I appreciate your post!....But here is the crux of both issues! The Federal Government has no right to fund such behaviors! If people want to embrace such acts...keep government money and support out of it!
Oct 4, 2017 11:08:55 #
Randy131 wrote:
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The founding fathers disagree with your provisional thoughts on the matter. WE DON'T LIVE IN A THEOCRACY, WHICH MEANS THAT WE "COMPOSED" OUR RIGHTS IN THE CONSTITUTION. The next time you complain about your first amendment rights being taken away, let them, because by your own admission those rights are meaningless, since God endowed them. In a Theocracy, your rights are granted by a priest caste, you have one choice on your ballot. Moral authority is granted by the law, if not it wouldn't be fought in the courts.
Oct 4, 2017 11:30:52 #
Oct 5, 2017 04:14:49 #
ldsuttonjr wrote:
Surprise: MSNBC Host Has NO CLUE About the Concept... (show quote)
A Virginia Boy, T. J., wrote those words. If they destroy the meaning of our D. O. I., Constitution, Bill of Rights and The Rule of Law, we all can kiss our asses good bye as Americans.
Oct 5, 2017 06:52:55 #
You certainly are sacred of religion, or is it a GOD that you fear. You try to scare people with the threat of a theocracy, which we've never had nor even have come close to. You show the quotes of just 3 'Founding Fathers' and insinuate that all 'Founding Fathers' felt the same as your 3 of whose quotes you present. Your James Madison's first quote is why the 1st Amendment is written like it is, and doesn't mean that he didn't believe in GOD and his unalienable endowed Rights for mankind.
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;..."
James Madison was simply trying to prevent what went on in European countries from happening in the new USA, where governments forced one denomination of Christianity on it's citizens, and prohibited the worship of any other denomination of Christianity, and was the reason for most of the immigration to the American colonies, were they were free to worhip in the Christian denomination of their own choice. Nbody has ever tried to force religion on anyone in the USA, as you threaten will happen if people believe that GOD endowed unalienable rights on all mankind, as the 'Declaration of Independence' (DoI) clearly states, and as all who signed it believed, as the last sentence in the 'DoI' proves.
"And for support of this 'Declaration', with a firm reliance on the protection of divine 'Providence', we mutually pledge to each other our 'Lives', our 'Fortunes', and our sacred 'Honor'."
You believe whatever you want, that is what the 1st Amendment warrants and gurantees as a right for all mankind, as the 'Founding Fathers' wanted everyone to be able to exercise GOD's gift of a free will, again implied in the 'DoI' that all the original 'Founding Fathers' signed and believed in. It's also quite telling that James Madison, Ethan Allen, and Thomas Paine were not members of the original 'Founding Fathers' who signed the 'Declaration of Independence', who did not put their lives, fortunes, and honor on the line in rebellion against the British, but came in after the 'American Revolutionary War' was won to help set up it's government, and to make sure they got what they wanted into that set up.
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;..."
James Madison was simply trying to prevent what went on in European countries from happening in the new USA, where governments forced one denomination of Christianity on it's citizens, and prohibited the worship of any other denomination of Christianity, and was the reason for most of the immigration to the American colonies, were they were free to worhip in the Christian denomination of their own choice. Nbody has ever tried to force religion on anyone in the USA, as you threaten will happen if people believe that GOD endowed unalienable rights on all mankind, as the 'Declaration of Independence' (DoI) clearly states, and as all who signed it believed, as the last sentence in the 'DoI' proves.
"And for support of this 'Declaration', with a firm reliance on the protection of divine 'Providence', we mutually pledge to each other our 'Lives', our 'Fortunes', and our sacred 'Honor'."
You believe whatever you want, that is what the 1st Amendment warrants and gurantees as a right for all mankind, as the 'Founding Fathers' wanted everyone to be able to exercise GOD's gift of a free will, again implied in the 'DoI' that all the original 'Founding Fathers' signed and believed in. It's also quite telling that James Madison, Ethan Allen, and Thomas Paine were not members of the original 'Founding Fathers' who signed the 'Declaration of Independence', who did not put their lives, fortunes, and honor on the line in rebellion against the British, but came in after the 'American Revolutionary War' was won to help set up it's government, and to make sure they got what they wanted into that set up.
Dummy Boy wrote:
The founding fathers disagree with your provisiona... (show quote)
Oct 5, 2017 09:06:36 #
ldsuttonjr wrote:
turdboy: Your insane!.....Homosexuality is evil & un-natural! Any Cultural Anthropologist worth his weight will confirm it! You wouldn't know the Constitution if you were even constipated! Idiot supreme!
I have the Constitution right in front of me and every time one of you start with you're constitutional comments I just happen to look it up and just about every time a Trump supporter opens his mouth with a statement and look it up 100% of the time you're (WRONG)
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