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Sep 29, 2017 08:30:20   #
ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa
 
Chocura750 wrote:
The 1% owns almost 50% of USA's wealth ( up from 17% in the 1950s ). Think about it; abolishing the estate tax will allow an unchecked increase in the consolidation of wealth in the 1%. At some not so distant point they will own almost everything.


chocura750 If you give all the wealth in this Country to the poor....In less than six months the wealthy will recoup it! Your jealously would be better served if you directed your energies toward your own skill-sets; It could enhance your own life! Your socialist interest in my back pocket will only further your stupidity in this issue! Go do something more constructive than jealously!

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Sep 29, 2017 08:40:12   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
Randy131 wrote:
What a bunch of babbling BS. If you want to know who the rich really are, compare who has the most millionaires in the US Congress, and look at who the ten richest are, and remember, when you see those numbers, that the Democrats have a lot less people in the US Congress than does the Republicans.

For the last 8 years we've lived in a stagnat economy because Obama and the Democrats have done everything in their power to destroy the rich, but have only decimated the middleclass instead. As the rich are hurt, the jobs are lost, and the middleclass is destroyed.

The only way the US has survived under Obama and the Democrats rule is that Obama averaged a $1.35 trillion deficit for every one of his 8 years, and no other President has even ever come close to a trillion dollar deficit, and this was done in what Obama and the Democrats claim was 7 1/2 years of Obama's proclaimed economic recovery of June 2009. This has caused the doubling of our national debt in only 8 years, that took all previous Presidents 232 years to acquire, and will probably end up destroying the US dollar and collapsing the US economy, unless President Trump can some how save us.

During Obama's Presidency he had dropped from the 'US Workforce' over 17 million unemployed Americans of working age (16 years to 54 years of age), lowering the participation rate to it's lowest percentage in 40 years, and during 7 1/2 years of a supposed economic recovery, causing more Americans to be unemployed than at any time in our history.

When Obama became President he inherited 17 million unemplyed Americans on 'Welfare & Food Stamps', and when he left office, and after 7 1/2 straight years of his economic recovery, President Trump has inherited nearly 50 million unemployed Americans on 'Welfare & Food Stamps'.

President Trump is attempting to reverse all this, and all you can do is make up lies to try to stop him, showing you want all those Americans to be without a job and on 'Welfare & Food Stamps', just like Obama and the Democrats want to keep them, so they'll be dependent on the Democrats for their livelihood through entitlement payments, that will assure their votes for Democrats.

But most intelligent people know this, but would prefer to have a job where they can be independent of their Democratic masters, that hand out all that 'Welfare & Food Stamps', which is why they elected President Trump to do exactly what he is doing, and you're trying to fear monger the American people in order to try to get the people to stop him, because the Democratic Party can't exist unless they have people dependent on them for handouts.
What a bunch of babbling BS. If you want to know ... (show quote)


Between 2009 and 2012 overall income per family grew 6.9 percent. The gains weren’t shared evenly, however. The top 1 percent saw their real income grow by 34.7 percent while the bottom 99 percent only saw a 0.8 percent gain, meaning that the 1 percent captured 91 percent of all real income.

Adjusting for inflation and excluding anything made from capital gains investments like stocks, however, shows that even that small gains for all but the richest disappears. According to Justin Wolfers, adjusted average income for the 1 percent without capital gains rose from $871,100 to $968,000 in that time period. For everyone else, average income actually fell from $44,000 to $43,900. Calculated this way, the 1 percent has captured all of the income gains.

So, while most Americans are struggling, the rich are enjoying the benefits of government policies that redistribute wealth upward--and crying class war if we complain. Democrats and republicans are responsible for this growing wealth disparity. However, being poor in the US different that the destitution than exists elsewhere. Giver the working poor, the poor and the newly poor just enough government assistance (throw them a big enough bone) to keep their swelling ranks from rebelling while the wealthy 1% continues to fleece America with the aid and blessings of their monkey politicians from both wings of the DC chicken.

The wealthy 1% own the DC chicken and both its wings. The wealthy 1% did very well during bushie the first's reign, slick willie's, bushie the second's, obammy's and will continue to do well with the don. That is if just enough bones are thrown to the growing masses of poor to keep them from rebelling.

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Sep 29, 2017 08:50:51   #
badbob85037
 
Chocura750 wrote:
The 1% owns almost 50% of USA's wealth ( up from 17% in the 1950s ). Think about it; abolishing the estate tax will allow an unchecked increase in the consolidation of wealth in the 1%. At some not so distant point they will own almost everything.


You almost sound as stupid as Schumer and Pelosi. So just come clean. Those two are what you are basing your information on. It worked when Kennedy did it back when a Democrat had two brain cells to rub together for heat. It worked when Reagan did it and from what Trump said it will work better now than ever before. You give the fat cat more back and less tax then he uses that money to build his business. That creates jobs. With less taxes on the middle class and more jobs they buy more goods. More goods create more jobs. The fat cat is happy the ones with a job are happy and more jobs make more tax payers so the government is happy. But for some reason these slap jawed democRats just can't wrap their lips around that simple idea which is really strange cause they wrap those lips around everything else especially obama.

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Sep 29, 2017 09:07:49   #
CodyCoonhound Loc: Redbone Country
 
Chocura750 wrote:
The 1% owns almost 50% of USA's wealth ( up from 17% in the 1950s ). Think about it; abolishing the estate tax will allow an unchecked increase in the consolidation of wealth in the 1%. At some not so distant point they will own almost everything.


You should do some studying of economics and how real wealth for all is accomplished. Risks takers and innovators do gain the most, however on their gains, comes huge growth in income for all people who are willing to work.

The results of outstanding business men are coming into fruit very quickly Chocura750. Time to open your eyes to see the truth.

"The U.S. economy grew at an upgraded annual rate of 3.1 percent in the spring, the fastest pace in more than two years. But growth is expected to slow sharply this quarter in the wake of a string of devastating hurricanes.

When President Donald Trump predicted that his policies would spur growth of 3 percent or more, a lot of economists didn't take him seriously.

CNBC reported in August that the goal now seems certainly within reach. "A revision to second-quarter gross domestic product showed a gain of 3 percent, the first period to reach that level since the first quarter of 2015."

"If we achieve sustained 3 percent growth, that means 12 million new jobs and $10 trillion of new economic activity. That's some number," Trump said during a speech in Missouri in late August promoting tax reform. "I happen to be one that thinks we can go much higher than 3 percent. There's no reason we shouldn't."

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Sep 29, 2017 09:13:04   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
badbob85037 wrote:
You almost sound as stupid as Schumer and Pelosi. So just come clean. Those two are what you are basing your information on. It worked when Kennedy did it back when a Democrat had two brain cells to rub together for heat. It worked when Reagan did it and from what Trump said it will work better now than ever before. You give the fat cat more back and less tax then he uses that money to build his business. That creates jobs. With less taxes on the middle class and more jobs they buy more goods. More goods create more jobs. The fat cat is happy the ones with a job are happy and more jobs make more tax payers so the government is happy. But for some reason these slap jawed democRats just can't wrap their lips around that simple idea which is really strange cause they wrap those lips around everything else especially obama.
You almost sound as stupid as Schumer and Pelosi. ... (show quote)


That is because your simple idea is a myth! This argument perpetuates a myth that some well-off Americans use to justify today's record inequality — the idea that rich people create the jobs.

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Sep 29, 2017 09:26:44   #
badbob85037
 
buffalo wrote:
Between 2009 and 2012 overall income per family grew 6.9 percent. The gains weren’t shared evenly, however. The top 1 percent saw their real income grow by 34.7 percent while the bottom 99 percent only saw a 0.8 percent gain, meaning that the 1 percent captured 91 percent of all real income.

Adjusting for inflation and excluding anything made from capital gains investments like stocks, however, shows that even that small gains for all but the richest disappears. According to Justin Wolfers, adjusted average income for the 1 percent without capital gains rose from $871,100 to $968,000 in that time period. For everyone else, average income actually fell from $44,000 to $43,900. Calculated this way, the 1 percent has captured all of the income gains.

So, while most Americans are struggling, the rich are enjoying the benefits of government policies that redistribute wealth upward--and crying class war if we complain. Democrats and republicans are responsible for this growing wealth disparity. However, being poor in the US different that the destitution than exists elsewhere. Giver the working poor, the poor and the newly poor just enough government assistance (throw them a big enough bone) to keep their swelling ranks from rebelling while the wealthy 1% continues to fleece America with the aid and blessings of their monkey politicians from both wings of the DC chicken.

The wealthy 1% own the DC chicken and both its wings. The wealthy 1% did very well during bushie the first's reign, slick willie's, bushie the second's, obammy's and will continue to do well with the don. That is if just enough bones are thrown to the growing masses of poor to keep them from rebelling.
Between 2009 and 2012 overall income per family gr... (show quote)


Where did you get these so called facts? All middle class, upper class, and no class income levels in obama's 8 years as king went to shit. Black Americans were hit hardest as obama was to busy working for the Black American in his words doing great things as getting the mandatory sentence for crack rock reduced when not hanging at a men's bath house next to the urinal stall. and as far as the rich goes they all put their pants on one leg at a time. But if you want a revolt how bout starting on the banksters of the Federal Reserve who in 1912 saved us. The same ones responsible for a $2,800 car in the 70's costing $35,000 today, that have ripped off all our gold and keep printing monopoly money and charging us usery on this worthless paper adding up to over $20 trillion.
I'll even help ya and loan ya a military rifle. Nobody would think anything of it if we hung them with a short rope and took back their ill gotten gain. After all they have started every war since the French Revolution profiting from both sides. While we are at it and got the rope out lets swing 95% of Congress while we are at it and take their dirty cash too, plus the other 5% for sure would get their heads out of those dark stanky places I bet we could get 50 or 60 million to help us who would bring their own guns. and that don't include our military who would bring the ammo. Is Thursday good for you?

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Sep 29, 2017 09:34:11   #
badbob85037
 
buffalo wrote:
That is because your simple idea is a myth! This argument perpetuates a myth that some well-off Americans use to justify today's record inequality — the idea that rich people create the jobs.


Maybe that is why you are a government dependent. You keep going to the homeless shelter to look for a job.

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Sep 29, 2017 09:38:29   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
badbob85037 wrote:
Where did you get these so called facts? All middle class, upper class, and no class income levels in obama's 8 years as king went to shit. Black Americans were hit hardest as obama was to busy working for the Black American in his words doing great things as getting the mandatory sentence for crack rock reduced when not hanging at a men's bath house next to the urinal stall. and as far as the rich goes they all put their pants on one leg at a time. But if you want a revolt how bout starting on the banksters of the Federal Reserve who in 1912 saved us. The same ones responsible for a $2,800 car in the 70's costing $35,000 today, that have ripped off all our gold and keep printing monopoly money and charging us usery on this worthless paper adding up to over $20 trillion.
I'll even help ya and loan ya a military rifle. Nobody would think anything of it if we hung them with a short rope and took back their ill gotten gain. After all they have started every war since the French Revolution profiting from both sides. While we are at it and got the rope out lets swing 95% of Congress while we are at it and take their dirty cash too, plus the other 5% for sure would get their heads out of those dark stanky places I bet we could get 50 or 60 million to help us who would bring their own guns. and that don't include our military who would bring the ammo. Is Thursday good for you?
Where did you get these so called facts? All middl... (show quote)


Where did you come up with that bullshit?

http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2013/09/10/some-95-of-2009-2012-income-gains-went-to-wealthiest-1/

http://www.businessinsider.com/95-of-income-gains-since-2009-went-to-the-top-1-heres-what-that-really-means-2013-9

http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2014/02/12/the-middle-classs-missing-1-6-trillion/

http://fortune.com/2017/08/01/wealth-gap-america/


"Maybe that is why you are a government dependent. You keep going to the homeless shelter to look for a job."

You even believe you think you know what your babbling about. Pathetic!

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Sep 29, 2017 11:42:22   #
America Only Loc: From the right hand of God
 
America 1 wrote:
I don't think the goat likes the diddling, and has been head butting him for fooling with it's butt



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Sep 29, 2017 11:44:06   #
Kazudy
 
Chocura750 wrote:
The 1% owns almost 50% of USA's wealth ( up from 17% in the 1950s ). Think about it; abolishing the estate tax will allow an unchecked increase in the consolidation of wealth in the 1%. At some not so distant point they will own almost everything.


So! What's wrong with that?

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Sep 29, 2017 11:52:05   #
Big Bass
 
Kazudy wrote:
So! What's wrong with that?

This communist expects to be handed the wealth, because they are all too effing lazy to earn it.

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Sep 29, 2017 11:54:25   #
America Only Loc: From the right hand of God
 
Big Bass wrote:
This communist expects to be handed the wealth, because they are all too effing lazy to earn it.



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Sep 29, 2017 12:30:41   #
Kevyn
 
ldsuttonjr wrote:
chocura750 If you give all the wealth in this Country to the poor....In less than six months the wealthy will recoup it! Your jealously would be better served if you directed your energies toward your own skill-sets; It could enhance your own life! Your socialist interest in my back pocket will only further your stupidity in this issue! Go do something more constructive than jealously!
If that's true why not give your idea a try?

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Sep 29, 2017 12:35:29   #
S. Maturin
 
Big Bass wrote:
This communist expects to be handed the wealth, because they are all too effing lazy to earn it.


In the USA of old those posers would have left the table with empty stomachs and empty pockets.

It's time to return to the *Good Old Ways*, I say.

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Sep 29, 2017 12:47:23   #
Big Bass
 
S. Maturin wrote:
In the USA of old those posers would have left the table with empty stomachs and empty pockets.

It's time to return to the *Good Old Ways*, I say.


The posers are without substance, hence, snowflakes.

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