My take about the recent and present civil unrest in St Louis: The original incident happened back in December of 2011.An a out-going prosecutor filed a legal motion for a trial based...

Tomtrout

The original incident happened back in December of 2011.An a out-going prosecutor filed a legal motion for a trial based on recently discovered new evidence. The motion was granted and a trial was set. Was this motivated by future political aspirations of the DA since no new evidence was submitted for consideration? The defendant was not ruled innocent by the court but the prosecution was unable to prove any evidence of "beyond a shadow of doubt" of the defendant's guilt. All this ire, resentment and outrage of an alleged miscarriage of justice should be focused on the prosecution for their failure to provide sufficient evidence to render a guilty decision and not toward the judge nor the legal system. Perhaps the defendant was guilty but in our legal system the defendant is presumed innocent until proven guilty of which the prosecution was unable to prove.

My personal feelings:
I agree with the judge that a reasonable law enforcement officer could expect that a convicted heroin dealer, with an arrest warrant in a stolen car would have a gun in his possession and should take appropriate precautions. The incident was further inflamed when the suspect rammed the police cruiser and tried to run down a police officer. This is an assault with a deadly weapon against the police and the subject should have been shot then preventing a high speed chase that ensued thru a densely populated area endangering the lives of the innocent. The judge did not allow the criminal history or recent behavior to be entered into evidence nor the fact that a legal arrest warrant for several parole violations to be entered as evidence so as not to taint his verdict. For me this is important as it goes to determine the real value of this individual to society and the local community. The only facts entered into evidence related to the shooting incident. Why should BLM or the Left protest, commit bodily injury to police and destruction of property plus interfere with the lives of those not involved by attempting to close highways and destroy retail stores just for the loss of life of a convicted heroin dealer and car thief only because the suspect was a racial minority?

When we allow emotions, social commentary to determine our constitutional rights to a fair trial and our guilt or innocence determined by the uninformed public opinion festered by the media and the presumption of innocence is threatened. You may be the next innocent citizen found guilty for a crime that you did not commit.

Ricktloml

Tomtrout wrote:

The original incident happened back in December of 2011.An a out-going prosecutor filed a legal motion for a trial based on recently discovered new evidence. The motion was granted and a trial was set. Was this motivated by future political aspirations of the DA since no new evidence was submitted for consideration? The defendant was not ruled innocent by the court but the prosecution was unable to prove any evidence of "beyond a shadow of doubt" of the defendant's guilt. All this ire, resentment and outrage of an alleged miscarriage of justice should be focused on the prosecution for their failure to provide sufficient evidence to render a guilty decision and not toward the judge nor the legal system. Perhaps the defendant was guilty but in our legal system the defendant is presumed innocent until proven guilty of which the prosecution was unable to prove.

My personal feelings:
I agree with the judge that a reasonable law enforcement officer could expect that a convicted heroin dealer, with an arrest warrant in a stolen car would have a gun in his possession and should take appropriate precautions. The incident was further inflamed when the suspect rammed the police cruiser and tried to run down a police officer. This is an assault with a deadly weapon against the police and the subject should have been shot then preventing a high speed chase that ensued thru a densely populated area endangering the lives of the innocent. The judge did not allow the criminal history or recent behavior to be entered into evidence nor the fact that a legal arrest warrant for several parole violations to be entered as evidence so as not to taint his verdict. For me this is important as it goes to determine the real value of this individual to society and the local community. The only facts entered into evidence related to the shooting incident. Why should BLM or the Left protest, commit bodily injury to police and destruction of property plus interfere with the lives of those not involved by attempting to close highways and destroy retail stores just for the loss of life of a convicted heroin dealer and car thief only because the suspect was a racial minority?

When we allow emotions, social commentary to determine our constitutional rights to a fair trial and our guilt or innocence determined by the uninformed public opinion festered by the media and the presumption of innocence is threatened. You may be the next innocent citizen found guilty for a crime that you did not commit.

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One of the worst, (of many) problems caused and exacerbated by Obama, (and his collaborative media) is his and his administration's, (oh good grief the entire left in America as well) contempt for the rule of law. Trial by mob and propaganda was the standard method applied

PulletSurprise Loc: Columbus, GA

Tomtrout, you're on the money.

The Waste Stream Media and the Entertainment Media have been extremely harmful in broadcasting various events with taking things out of context, limited information to out-and-out jam-packed lies deceiving their audience… they sensationalize stories with withholding pertinent facts to obstruct justice.

Some journalist should be charged with 'obstruction of justice.'

humanator

Tomtrout wrote:

The original incident happened back in December of 2011.An a out-going prosecutor filed a legal motion for a trial based on recently discovered new evidence. The motion was granted and a trial was set. Was this motivated by future political aspirations of the DA since no new evidence was submitted for consideration? The defendant was not ruled innocent by the court but the prosecution was unable to prove any evidence of "beyond a shadow of doubt" of the defendant's guilt. All this ire, resentment and outrage of an alleged miscarriage of justice should be focused on the prosecution for their failure to provide sufficient evidence to render a guilty decision and not toward the judge nor the legal system. Perhaps the defendant was guilty but in our legal system the defendant is presumed innocent until proven guilty of which the prosecution was unable to prove.

My personal feelings:
I agree with the judge that a reasonable law enforcement officer could expect that a convicted heroin dealer, with an arrest warrant in a stolen car would have a gun in his possession and should take appropriate precautions. The incident was further inflamed when the suspect rammed the police cruiser and tried to run down a police officer. This is an assault with a deadly weapon against the police and the subject should have been shot then preventing a high speed chase that ensued thru a densely populated area endangering the lives of the innocent. The judge did not allow the criminal history or recent behavior to be entered into evidence nor the fact that a legal arrest warrant for several parole violations to be entered as evidence so as not to taint his verdict. For me this is important as it goes to determine the real value of this individual to society and the local community. The only facts entered into evidence related to the shooting incident. Why should BLM or the Left protest, commit bodily injury to police and destruction of property plus interfere with the lives of those not involved by attempting to close highways and destroy retail stores just for the loss of life of a convicted heroin dealer and car thief only because the suspect was a racial minority?

When we allow emotions, social commentary to determine our constitutional rights to a fair trial and our guilt or innocence determined by the uninformed public opinion festered by the media and the presumption of innocence is threatened. You may be the next innocent citizen found guilty for a crime that you did not commit.

The original incident happened back in December of... (show quote)

Case closed.

son of witless

Tomtrout wrote:

The original incident happened back in December of 2011.An a out-going prosecutor filed a legal motion for a trial based on recently discovered new evidence. The motion was granted and a trial was set. Was this motivated by future political aspirations of the DA since no new evidence was submitted for consideration? The defendant was not ruled innocent by the court but the prosecution was unable to prove any evidence of "beyond a shadow of doubt" of the defendant's guilt. All this ire, resentment and outrage of an alleged miscarriage of justice should be focused on the prosecution for their failure to provide sufficient evidence to render a guilty decision and not toward the judge nor the legal system. Perhaps the defendant was guilty but in our legal system the defendant is presumed innocent until proven guilty of which the prosecution was unable to prove.

My personal feelings:
I agree with the judge that a reasonable law enforcement officer could expect that a convicted heroin dealer, with an arrest warrant in a stolen car would have a gun in his possession and should take appropriate precautions. The incident was further inflamed when the suspect rammed the police cruiser and tried to run down a police officer. This is an assault with a deadly weapon against the police and the subject should have been shot then preventing a high speed chase that ensued thru a densely populated area endangering the lives of the innocent. The judge did not allow the criminal history or recent behavior to be entered into evidence nor the fact that a legal arrest warrant for several parole violations to be entered as evidence so as not to taint his verdict. For me this is important as it goes to determine the real value of this individual to society and the local community. The only facts entered into evidence related to the shooting incident. Why should BLM or the Left protest, commit bodily injury to police and destruction of property plus interfere with the lives of those not involved by attempting to close highways and destroy retail stores just for the loss of life of a convicted heroin dealer and car thief only because the suspect was a racial minority?

When we allow emotions, social commentary to determine our constitutional rights to a fair trial and our guilt or innocence determined by the uninformed public opinion festered by the media and the presumption of innocence is threatened. You may be the next innocent citizen found guilty for a crime that you did not commit.

The original incident happened back in December of... (show quote)

Funny what you don't get when you listen to the Left wing American Communist Media. I did not know he rammed a police cruiser and tried to run down a police officer. All I got was that there was supposedly an audio of the cop saying he was going to kill the suspect seconds before the shooting.

Noraa Loc: Kansas

Tomtrout wrote:

The original incident happened back in December of 2011.An a out-going prosecutor filed a legal motion for a trial based on recently discovered new evidence. The motion was granted and a trial was set. Was this motivated by future political aspirations of the DA since no new evidence was submitted for consideration? The defendant was not ruled innocent by the court but the prosecution was unable to prove any evidence of "beyond a shadow of doubt" of the defendant's guilt. All this ire, resentment and outrage of an alleged miscarriage of justice should be focused on the prosecution for their failure to provide sufficient evidence to render a guilty decision and not toward the judge nor the legal system. Perhaps the defendant was guilty but in our legal system the defendant is presumed innocent until proven guilty of which the prosecution was unable to prove.

My personal feelings:
I agree with the judge that a reasonable law enforcement officer could expect that a convicted heroin dealer, with an arrest warrant in a stolen car would have a gun in his possession and should take appropriate precautions. The incident was further inflamed when the suspect rammed the police cruiser and tried to run down a police officer. This is an assault with a deadly weapon against the police and the subject should have been shot then preventing a high speed chase that ensued thru a densely populated area endangering the lives of the innocent. The judge did not allow the criminal history or recent behavior to be entered into evidence nor the fact that a legal arrest warrant for several parole violations to be entered as evidence so as not to taint his verdict. For me this is important as it goes to determine the real value of this individual to society and the local community. The only facts entered into evidence related to the shooting incident. Why should BLM or the Left protest, commit bodily injury to police and destruction of property plus interfere with the lives of those not involved by attempting to close highways and destroy retail stores just for the loss of life of a convicted heroin dealer and car thief only because the suspect was a racial minority?

When we allow emotions, social commentary to determine our constitutional rights to a fair trial and our guilt or innocence determined by the uninformed public opinion festered by the media and the presumption of innocence is threatened. You may be the next innocent citizen found guilty for a crime that you did not commit.

The original incident happened back in December of... (show quote)

I think it is absolutely outrageous that previous convictions and bad behavior are not allowed especially when someones freedom is in jeopardy. I want to hear the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

boatbob2

When a coon kills a white police officer,hes just a poor misunderstood young man,who was trying to turn his life around,and didnt have a racist bone in his body, when,a white policeman shoots a coon,hes a racist son of a bitch,so lets rob ,pillage stores,for the tennys, and then burn that place down.

padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al

son of witless wrote:

Funny what you don't get when you listen to the Left wing American Communist Media. I did not know he rammed a police cruiser and tried to run down a police officer. All I got was that there was supposedly an audio of the cop saying he was going to kill the suspect seconds before the shooting.

There was video of the incident of the criminal ramming police vehicles. If the criminal had been white with the same record there wouldn't have been a whimper.

deltareb

Brainless boneheads. Pack mentality, just like in the jungle.

Noraa Loc: Kansas

padremike wrote:

There was video of the incident of the criminal ramming police vehicles. If the criminal had been white with the same record there wouldn't have been a whimper.

son of witless

padremike wrote:

There was video of the incident of the criminal ramming police vehicles. If the criminal had been white with the same record there wouldn't have been a whimper.

Again it is amazing the details that accidentally get left out by the Communist Media.