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May 28, 2017 12:10:39   #
zillaorange
 
cabbot wrote:
Hello,
I just joined this morning. Female, just moved to Bend, Oregon from Reno, Nevada. Went to high school with both Dean Heller and Mark Amodai.
I am a Democrat. Very disgusted and wary of Trump. I'm very interested in the ongoing investigations. Personally believe he is very heavily involved with criminal activity, both here and abroad.
I continue to wonder about this question: Why are so many of Trump 's followers blind to what he is doing? Why are they buying his lies?
Hello, br I just joined this morning. Female, jus... (show quote)


I wonder if you could explain hitlery's statement re: 4 dead Americans, "What difference does it make ?" ???!!! With that attitude what kind of commander-in-chief she'd make ?

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May 28, 2017 13:47:22   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
zillaorange wrote:
I wonder if you could explain hitlery's statement re: 4 dead Americans, "What difference does it make ?" ???!!! With that attitude what kind of commander-in-chief she'd make ?




Zilla,

Hillary comment was about the reason for the demonstration/attack. Not about the 4 dead Americans..

It was removed from context by the hostile press and the right refuses to look at the real origin..

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May 28, 2017 14:02:21   #
zillaorange
 
permafrost wrote:
Zilla,

Hillary comment was about the reason for the demonstration/attack. Not about the 4 dead Americans..

It was removed from context by the hostile press and the right refuses to look at the real origin..


I've got you on that Perma, stuff does get misconstrued ! However with all the questions about requests for additional security, & none showing up was HER RESPONSIBILITY !!!! Then trying to make the attack as disgruntled moslems when , in fact, was a planned attack !!! As I understand it, those men suffered horrendous treatment before being killed was what put me over the edge. I watched the hearings & that retort just struck me to the core. Besides I was wondering why anyone could condone a response as flip as that should go unnoticed !!!

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May 28, 2017 14:19:21   #
Noraa Loc: Kansas
 
permafrost wrote:
Zilla,

Hillary comment was about the reason for the demonstration/attack. Not about the 4 dead Americans..

It was removed from context by the hostile press and the right refuses to look at the real origin..


Hostile press? For Hillary?

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May 28, 2017 16:23:16   #
payne1000
 
Noraa wrote:
Hostile press? For Hillary?


Noraa, you didn't produce any comments I have made which demonstrates hatred of Jews.
You're looking more and more like a liar.
I'll bet you're a Muslim-hater as well.

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May 28, 2017 16:43:44   #
Noraa Loc: Kansas
 
payne1000 wrote:
Noraa, you didn't produce any comments I have made which demonstrates hatred of Jews.
You're looking more and more like a liar.
I'll bet you're a Muslim-hater as well.


Wrong! I didn't have to answer you Worried did that just fine.

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May 28, 2017 17:03:04   #
payne1000
 
Noraa wrote:
Wrong! I didn't have to answer you Worried did that just fine.


Worried can't answer for you.
Worried showed I was against Zionism.
Zionism is a political movement which is the closest to Nazism in the world today.
Would criticizing Nazism be the same as criticizing Germans?



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May 28, 2017 18:26:40   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
zillaorange wrote:
I've got you on that Perma, stuff does get misconstrued ! However with all the questions about requests for additional security, & none showing up was HER RESPONSIBILITY !!!! Then trying to make the attack as disgruntled moslems when , in fact, was a planned attack !!! As I understand it, those men suffered horrendous treatment before being killed was what put me over the edge. I watched the hearings & that retort just struck me to the core. Besides I was wondering why anyone could condone a response as flip as that should go unnoticed !!!
I've got you on that Perma, stuff does get miscons... (show quote)



Zilla,

We could cover a lot things on the Benghazi investigations..

But I am not going to spend the remainder of the day on a closed subject..

Even the republicans found no wrong doing in these events.. 9 investigations, and found nothing but a tragedy..

The lose of security was the fault of congress..

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May 28, 2017 19:41:28   #
Steve700
 
permafrost wrote:
Zilla,

We could cover a lot things on the Benghazi investigations..

But I am not going to spend the remainder of the day on a closed subject..

Even the republicans found no wrong doing in these events.. 9 investigations, and found nothing but a tragedy..

The lose of security was the fault of congress..

That was actually an attempted kidnapping plot to make a big hero out of Obama and ensure his very soon to come reelection by trading the blind Sheikh in order to get our ambassador back. I am quite certain of that because about five days before the kidnapping then news were making a big issue of that Muslims were clamoring to have the blind Shake released. I thought at the time, "why is that newsworthy?", They have always wanted him back. The fact that Obama had repeatedly refused the incessant cries from our security -- the fact that Hillary, nor anyone else send anyone when there were soldiers that could've been there within an hour or two (and it went on for 13 hours) and the fact that some special forces guys who were in the area were ordered to stand down I'll testify to the obvious conclusion I just rendered. They disobeyed those orders and went and anyway, causing more chaos which resulted in the ambassador being killed rather than carried away in one piece. And that certainly fits in with the five terrorist commanders - Burgdahl trade, Obama's continual applauding and defending of Islam, disparaging comments about Christianity, is having been brought up as a Muslim in his formative years in Indonesia and everything about his foreign-policy when it involves Muslims, and it does so right from the very beginning. Time to wake up my friend.



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May 28, 2017 19:51:29   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Steve700 wrote:
That was actually an attempted kidnapping plot to make a big hero out of Obama and ensure his very soon to come reelection by trading the blind Sheikh in order to get our ambassador back. I am quite certain of that because about five days before the kidnapping then news were making a big issue of that Muslims were clamoring to have the blind Shake released. I thought at the time, "why is that newsworthy?", They have always wanted him back. The fact that Obama had repeatedly refused the incessant cries from our security -- the fact that Hillary, nor anyone else send anyone when there were soldiers that could've been there within an hour or two (and it went on for 13 hours) and the fact that some special forces guys who were in the area were ordered to stand down I'll testify to the obvious conclusion I just rendered. They disobeyed those orders and went and anyway, causing more chaos which resulted in the ambassador being killed rather than carried away in one piece. And that certainly fits in with the five terrorist commanders - Burgdahl trade, Obama's continual applauding and defending of Islam, disparaging comments about Christianity, is having been brought up as a Muslim in his formative years in Indonesia and everything about his foreign-policy when it involves Muslims, and it does so right from the very beginning. Time to wake up my friend.
That was actually an attempted kidnapping plot to ... (show quote)



Steve,

You know I do not believe any of that..

Never was a stand down order, the security problem was a responsibility of congress. All those investigations came to the same conclusion.. Nothing was like the right wing wished it was..

The Burgdhal exchange had nothing to do with this incident..

For the record. I think the price paid to get him back was excessive.. But getting him back was a good thing..

I can not call him a deserter. He has not yet been tried..

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May 28, 2017 20:00:52   #
Steve700
 
permafrost wrote:
LOL,

Good morning Steve,

I trust that first picture is not a self portrait... Why would anyone do that to themselves.. Starved for attention?

As to the positions you comment on.

The post and espoused positions of the right and tea party sound fine. No one would deny.

But the actual actions and policy of these same people is far different..

Nothing to do with the growth of the middle class. But giving money via tax cuts to the very rich. Cutting programs which are keyed to help the working and middle class, while also starting new programs such as monitoring the actions of immigrants who have been allowed into our country..

But I know you and I will never agree, so I will cut this off and bring my ranting to the soon to be vegetable garden..

Have a pleasant Memorial Day...
LOL, br br Good morning Steve, br br I trust tha... (show quote)

Obviously he would do that to himself because he is a demented person of the left. He certainly is no conservative. This taxing the rich issue has been going on from time immemorial. They have always paid the bulk of the taxes and of course rightly so. Most of the rich are the large business owners. The more money they can keep, the more they can reinvest into the business and therefore the more people they are able to hire and provide a livelihood for. The conservatives have cut programs before and the result is people have to get off their ass and go out and look for work. It's been proven that the easier it is to get on welfare and the longer one can stay there the larger and more degenerate and crime-ridden that becomes. Any of them think that food and a home should be provided to every American citizen, so if they like partying and especially if they're into drugs, what is their motivation have some integrity and discipline to get out and get a job. If you really understood Islam as Mohammed intended and set it up to be you would realize that no Muslim immigrants or refugees should be allowed here at all. Their fellow Muslim countries know enough to not take them and Islamic ideology is Supremacist (intent on taking over the world) as Nazism was. They have more children than rabbits and Catholics and will take over a democratic society in time by sheer numbers, because we are enjoying our sexual freedom, not marrying and aborting the product of it and that won't change. Their family units are strong and they are as much of a political ideology has a religious one. And that ideology is totally incompatible with both democracy and our Constitution. It is only the bleeding hearts liberal idiots that allow them in here. Even if the Muslims are peaceful, it doesn't mean that their children will be because those quotes for slaughter until all the world submits and there remains only Islam and Allah alone is worshiped, are in the Koran and those dictates are not going away. For a little more on this issue see my new article I just put up: http://www.onepoliticalplaza.com/t-103589-1.html

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May 28, 2017 20:04:58   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
permafrost wrote:
Steve,

You know I do not believe any of that..

Never was a stand down order, the security problem was a responsibility of congress. All those investigations came to the same conclusion.. Nothing was like the right wing wished it was..

The Burgdhal exchange had nothing to do with this incident..

For the record. I think the price paid to get him back was excessive.. But getting him back was a good thing..

I can not call him a deserter. He has not yet been tried..
Steve, br br You know I do not believe any of tha... (show quote)


Well, Permi, Trump has yet to be tried. Think about that for a minute.

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May 29, 2017 01:16:02   #
Steve700
 
permafrost wrote:
Steve,

You know I do not believe any of that..

Never was a stand down order, the security problem was a responsibility of congress. All those investigations came to the same conclusion.. Nothing was like the right wing wished it was..

The Burgdhal exchange had nothing to do with this incident..

For the record. I think the price paid to get him back was excessive.. But getting him back was a good thing..

I can not call him a deserter. He has not yet been tried..
Steve, br br You know I do not believe any of tha... (show quote)

If you don't believe any of that because you don't understand, nor believe the extent of the evil and the corruption with which you align yourself. There was absolutely a stand down order. I saw an hour long interview of those three rangers and he said that they absolutely were told to stand down and they called back and questioned the order and were told the second time to stand down and that that was in order. And then they just regarded it and went in any way. And you are wrong about Congress being the one in charge of whether or not to increase security. They are not barraged with constant little issues like that from all different places all over the world. That's not their job. If not Obama himself it is somebody within his administration that Obama had told no to and the request had been continual for six months. Obama never responded during the melee and neither did Hillary. Nothing other than what I suggested about this makes any sense of it and what I said explains everything. Of course any investigation by the government is going to come to the conclusion that everyone is innocent. Obama has filled his administration and all the key positions of the government agencies with Communists and Muslims to the highest extent to find possible. We have had an internal coup of our government and a plan to get rid of Trump one way or another to see that it succeeds and Obama's promised fundamental Marxist transformation goes to completion. We are still in the midst of a slow-motion coup. You may not believe that was a planned kidnapping but I certainly do and you have to admit that that makes everything that happened make total sense. And you know that after the attack on the embassy, not another word was said on the news about the Muslims and the blind Sheikh. That's just a little bit too much coincidence for me to just be nothing but a strange coincidence appearing to mean something that it doesn't.

And please tell me for what reason other than to court-martial him (and it still hasn't happened yet) should we want sergeants Bergdahl back??? And what do you mean you can't call him a deserter yet ??? He was not only a deserter he was a defect or that went to find the Caliban to switch sides and fight with them against America. That is a well-known fact and six men died on an excursion to look for him when he first disappeared. And that son of a bitch Obama told the American people that he had served with honor. [b] Read these signs. All these moderate Muslims of these Islamic countries realize who Obama is and what he is doing. What is wrong with all the American Democrats that they don't have a clue. Don't you understand that his mother was a Muslim (and I can prove it by Iraq's own words) and that she had him brought up as a Muslim in the Islamic country of Indonesia during his formative years. He joined Jeremiad Wrights church for political expediency and because he liked all the anti-American, anti-Western values rhetoric which is the same propaganda whether it's Marxist/communist propaganda, black liberation theology propaganda or Islamic propaganda.

Read these signs. All these moderate Muslims of these Islamic countries realize who Obama is and what he is doing. What is wrong with all the American Democrats that they don't have a clue









This is Obama's logo, the sun rising over the West, It's his destiny. An Islamic passage reads that the Muslims will know their Savior the 12th Madi has arrived when the sun rises over the West
This is Obama's logo, the sun rising over the West...

Kissinger says Obama is being trained to head the New World order. That's the antichrist and I believe in the future Obama will once again rise to the prominence of that position, but of course you don't believe that either.
Kissinger says Obama is being trained to head the ...

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May 29, 2017 06:02:51   #
viking747
 
dtucker300. You have shown you know nothing about Islam and the Muslims. They do not reform nor do they change. They takeover countries by a set pattern that has been used for about 1,400 years. Perhaps you are a Muslim and are here to pollute this board.

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May 29, 2017 07:43:17   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
payne1000 wrote:
Worried can't answer for you.
Worried showed I was against Zionism.
Zionism is a political movement which is the closest to Nazism in the world today.
Would criticizing Nazism be the same as criticizing Germans?


Good point, payne.
The anti-Semitic smear is losing its deflecting power.

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