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May 1, 2017 01:27:04   #
Harpooner1
 
It's nice to think the world thinks like us...Americans. It's nice to think that Americans think alike. It's nice to think that free speech is just that. Freedom to speak.
We don't think alike, the world does not think like America.
And, places like Berkeley, California, are showing they don't respect the constitution of the very nation they reside in.

Liberals are the scourge of a society.

Confusion and ruin are their past, present and future.

But, blame President Trump. Now it's all on one man.......

The mess he inherited is overwhelming, and the job of cleaning it up is overwhelming as well.
It is not Donald Trump.
It is Obama and his past administration.

Obama blamed Bush and the problems he said he inherited. To the end.
Maybe he was right part of the time, but he was an obviously a horrible leader.
Eight years.....Nothing of substance. Nothing.

Oh, you can say he got Bin Laden.......But now we have a bigger war.

Can Trump be the leader we need as a country? Time will tell.

It's nice to think he can do the job.

He is doing much better than the polls, I think

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May 1, 2017 02:37:13   #
America Only Loc: From the right hand of God
 
Berkeley California has always been a haven for nutcakes and off the charts idiot activity. California in general is going down hill fast with moronic attitudes of the masses there. The way things are going now in that part of the USA, they should rename it...Goofy Land.

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May 1, 2017 03:52:31   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
Harpooner1 wrote:
It's nice to think the world thinks like us...Americans. It's nice to think that Americans think alike. It's nice to think that free speech is just that. Freedom to speak.
We don't think alike, the world does not think like America.
And, places like Berkeley, California, are showing they don't respect the constitution of the very nation they reside in.

Liberals are the scourge of a society.

Confusion and ruin are their past, present and future.

But, blame President Trump. Now it's all on one man.......

The mess he inherited is overwhelming, and the job of cleaning it up is overwhelming as well.
It is not Donald Trump.
It is Obama and his past administration.

Obama blamed Bush and the problems he said he inherited. To the end.
Maybe he was right part of the time, but he was an obviously a horrible leader.
Eight years.....Nothing of substance. Nothing.

Oh, you can say he got Bin Laden.......But now we have a bigger war.

Can Trump be the leader we need as a country? Time will tell.

It's nice to think he can do the job.

He is doing much better than the polls, I think
It's nice to think the world thinks like us...Amer... (show quote)


Obama did not "get" anyone. The military located Bin Laden, devised the plan, brought it to Obama and he said "GO". That was his entire involvement. "GO:. Whoopie.

Obama is such a narcissist that he frequently took credit for other's accomplishments.

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May 1, 2017 03:58:09   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
America Only wrote:
Berkeley California has always been a haven for nutcakes and off the charts idiot activity. California in general is going down hill fast with moronic attitudes of the masses there. The way things are going now in that part of the USA, they should rename it...Goofy Land.


In the '60s Berkeley was a joke. Even the Johnny Carson show called them out frequently for their idiot activities. It was a haven for the flower power free love dopers, and still attracts that same vapid minded caliber of student.

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May 1, 2017 04:56:58   #
okie don
 
I talked to a OPP friend living in Northern CA. He says the Northern residents are troubled in that the southern States Reps run the show and northernors are taxed out the gazoo and receive no benefits.

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May 1, 2017 04:58:45   #
okie don
 
The monies paid benefit those in southern CA and the hordes who live in that part of CA. .Any are leaving g the state based on Taxation without representation.For some time now a movement of 21 counties has been

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May 1, 2017 05:00:22   #
okie don
 
Brewing to break off some 21 counties in northern CA and form a new State called Jefferson. This has been debated for quite some time now, apparently.

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May 1, 2017 05:55:42   #
Alicia Loc: NYC
 
Harpooner1 wrote:
It's nice to think the world thinks like us...Americans. It's nice to think that Americans think alike. It's nice to think that free speech is just that. Freedom to speak.
We don't think alike, the world does not think like America.
And, places like Berkeley, California, are showing they don't respect the constitution of the very nation they reside in.

Liberals are the scourge of a society.

Confusion and ruin are their past, present and future.

But, blame President Trump. Now it's all on one man.......

The mess he inherited is overwhelming, and the job of cleaning it up is overwhelming as well.
It is not Donald Trump.
It is Obama and his past administration.

Obama blamed Bush and the problems he said he inherited. To the end.
Maybe he was right part of the time, but he was an obviously a horrible leader.
Eight years.....Nothing of substance. Nothing.

Oh, you can say he got Bin Laden.......But now we have a bigger war.

Can Trump be the leader we need as a country? Time will tell.

It's nice to think he can do the job.

He is doing much better than the polls, I think
It's nice to think the world thinks like us...Amer... (show quote)

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Trumpf can't do anything. What has he accomplished, in a positive way, since his inauguration? Haven't you already viewed him or heard him bewailing his present position and yearning for his "good old days"? It seems as if he never thought anything regarding the presidency was going to be has difficult as it is. He lied to his followers and still hasn't come through with any of his promises.

Oh, yes, he signed some EOs bringing back dirty air and water. He placed a ban on Muslims and his decision was found to be unconstitutional. Too bad you didn't realize what a slimy con man he was and always has been.

Obama was faced with a recession and the loss of many jobs what Bush had left for him. He drove the country into the ground even after being left with a surplus of funds. Nice gift, heh? He solved much of that situation. Your guy has messed up arrangements with our allies and is a laughing stock. And now he just might be successful in starting a war. Please note how Ivanka was questioned abut her dad's reputation in Germany for one thing. She had nothing to say besides lying like her father. And how is Drumpf still getting away without showing his tax returns. For many, many years disclosing them was a requirement for any public office.

He may have been successful in real estate. Who wouldn't after beginning with One Million dollars for openers? Perhaps you chose to ignore the fact that he cheated his contractors in order to make more money for himself and hired short term aliens to do the heavy labor - at his price - or they would be deported. Also, there has not been any nepotism in the Oval Office since JFK hired his brother, Robert, to be attorney general. Based on his own history, I guess Drumpf just can't trust anybody except his own family.

That's all I'll say for now.

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May 1, 2017 07:56:42   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
Alicia wrote:
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Trumpf can't do anything. What has he accomplished, in a positive way, since his inauguration? Haven't you already viewed him or heard him bewailing his present position and yearning for his "good old days"? It seems as if he never thought anything regarding the presidency was going to be has difficult as it is. He lied to his followers and still hasn't come through with any of his promises.

Oh, yes, he signed some EOs bringing back dirty air and water. He placed a ban on Muslims and his decision was found to be unconstitutional. Too bad you didn't realize what a slimy con man he was and always has been.

Obama was faced with a recession and the loss of many jobs what Bush had left for him. He drove the country into the ground even after being left with a surplus of funds. Nice gift, heh? He solved much of that situation. Your guy has messed up arrangements with our allies and is a laughing stock. And now he just might be successful in starting a war. Please note how Ivanka was questioned abut her dad's reputation in Germany for one thing. She had nothing to say besides lying like her father. And how is Drumpf still getting away without showing his tax returns. For many, many years disclosing them was a requirement for any public office.

He may have been successful in real estate. Who wouldn't after beginning with One Million dollars for openers? Perhaps you chose to ignore the fact that he cheated his contractors in order to make more money for himself and hired short term aliens to do the heavy labor - at his price - or they would be deported. Also, there has not been any nepotism in the Oval Office since JFK hired his brother, Robert, to be attorney general. Based on his own history, I guess Drumpf just can't trust anybody except his own family.

That's all I'll say for now.
********************* br Trumpf can't do anything.... (show quote)


Spoken like a true liberal !

O B T W how much debt did the great Obama add ? ? ?

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May 1, 2017 08:27:45   #
Zombiefarmer23 Loc: Bull Hills
 
Alicia wrote:
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Trumpf can't do anything. What has he accomplished, in a positive way, since his inauguration? Haven't you already viewed him or heard him bewailing his present position and yearning for his "good old days"? It seems as if he never thought anything regarding the presidency was going to be has difficult as it is. He lied to his followers and still hasn't come through with any of his promises.

Oh, yes, he signed some EOs bringing back dirty air and water. He placed a ban on Muslims and his decision was found to be unconstitutional. Too bad you didn't realize what a slimy con man he was and always has been.

Obama was faced with a recession and the loss of many jobs what Bush had left for him. He drove the country into the ground even after being left with a surplus of funds. Nice gift, heh? He solved much of that situation. Your guy has messed up arrangements with our allies and is a laughing stock. And now he just might be successful in starting a war. Please note how Ivanka was questioned abut her dad's reputation in Germany for one thing. She had nothing to say besides lying like her father. And how is Drumpf still getting away without showing his tax returns. For many, many years disclosing them was a requirement for any public office.

He may have been successful in real estate. Who wouldn't after beginning with One Million dollars for openers? Perhaps you chose to ignore the fact that he cheated his contractors in order to make more money for himself and hired short term aliens to do the heavy labor - at his price - or they would be deported. Also, there has not been any nepotism in the Oval Office since JFK hired his brother, Robert, to be attorney general. Based on his own history, I guess Drumpf just can't trust anybody except his own family.

That's all I'll say for now.
********************* br Trumpf can't do anything.... (show quote)


There you have it folks. Another Gish galloping irrelevant commie moron. Why don't you just stfu?

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May 1, 2017 10:54:36   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
Alicia wrote:
Trumpf can't do anything.

It's 'Trump'. There is no 'f' in 'Trump'. By the way, that's 'President Trump', and yes, he is your President whether you like it or not. Call it 'democracy in action'.

There many things that a President, any President, is not able to do, especially on his own initiative. Originating and enacting legislation, for instance, is within the purview of the Congress; collecting and reporting the news is within the purview of the media and the press. Creating jobs and maintaining business activities is within the purview of entrepreneurs and business owners. Yes, there is a long list of things a President, as President, is unable to 'do'.

On the other side, there are a few things a President can and should do: Presidents sign legislation in order to 'execute' it through the bureaucracy. They may also veto legislation and return it to Congress for amendment or override. Presidents have control over the news released by their office, but do not control the flow of information from other government offices. Presidents have considerable influence concerning the creation and enforcement of government regulation of business and economic activity. Through this 'power', Presidents are able to create the conditions conducive to economic prosperity by reducing overhead costs and streamlining bureaucracy.

Alicia wrote:
What has he accomplished, in a positive way, since his inauguration?

That's a fair question. Here's a partial listing of the highlights:

President Trump decreased the US Debt in his first 100 days by $100 Billion.
Illegal immigration is down 67% since President Trump’s Inauguration.
NATO announced Allied spending is up $10 Billion because of President Trump.
After being nominated by President Trump, Constitutionalist Judge Neil Gorsuch was confirmed and sworn in as Supreme Court Justice in early April, following an obstructionist Senate confirmation process.

The President has signed 66 executive orders, memoranda and proclamations as of April 19th, including:

* Notifying Congress of a strike on Syria after it was reported that the country used gas on its citizens.
* Dismantling Obama’s climate change initiatives.
* Travel bans for individuals from a select number of countries embroiled in terrorist atrocities. (Obstructed by judicial activism)
* Enforcing regulatory reform.
* Protecting Law enforcement.
* Mandating for every new regulation to eliminate two.
* Defeating ISIS.
* Rebuilding the military.
* Building a border wall.
* Cutting funding for sanctuary cities. (Obstructed by judicial activism)
* Approving pipelines.
* Reducing regulations on manufacturers.
* Placing a hiring freeze on federal employees.
* Exiting the US from the TPP.

In addition to all this, the President has met with many foreign leaders from across the globe including Xi from China, Abe from Japan, etc.

The President also pointed out numerous times that the MSM (Main Stream Media) reports only on a made up Russia conspiracy story and ignores these accomplishments. These actions are making the majority of Americans aware of the tremendous bias in the media in the US and abroad. This is yet another major Trump accomplishment.

Alicia wrote:
Haven't you already viewed him or heard him bewailing his present position and yearning for his "good old days"?

The only complaints I have heard of are his references to a highly corrupted media reporting bias, which just happens to be patently obvious to even the most casual observer, and his outrage at the judicial activists on the 9th circuit, who I expect he will deal with as the opportunity arises. Considering the conditions he took over when he was inaugurated, I'd say he's been very subdued in his recriminations.

Alicia wrote:
It seems as if he never thought anything regarding the presidency was going to be has difficult as it is.

For someone used to giving orders and those orders being followed, it must be highly frustrating to find himself being forced to accommodate the bureaucracy that is the US Congress' legislative body. I've heard it described as being 'like trying to herd cats'. He must have the patience of a saint...

[quote=Alicia]He lied to his followers and still hasn't come through with any of his promises.
'Followers'? What is he, a religious leader or something? Political figures have 'supporters', not 'followers', and he certainly has millions of supporters. As for lying to them, I don't see how. Looking at the list I detailed above, I'd say he's been a very, very busy guy. Many of his campaign promises are followed through with on that list. These things don't happen all at once.

Alicia wrote:
Oh, yes, he signed some EOs bringing back dirty air and water.

Local regulation of air and water quality are not a function of the Federal government. If in doubt, go take a look at the US Constitution of 1789 and try to locate where such a power is delegated. By the way, that document contains complete details of all of the powers delegated to the Federal Government and its bureaucracy. There is no additional or 'secret' text.

[quote=Alicia]He placed a ban on Muslims and his decision was found to be unconstitutional.
Incorrect. In actuality, he placed a temporary ban on immigration from 7 countries known to be harboring Muslim extremist groups intent on infiltrating the United States and bringing their 'Islamic Jihad' with them. He never tried to institute a 'religious test' in deciding immigration status. Refer to Article II of the Constitution of 1789, he has the delegated power to do just that. The opinion suspending his Executive Order makes no reference to existing law, constitutional or otherwise, because this opinion is not based in law, but rather is an example of judicial activism to which the President replied "See you in the Supreme Court!"

Alicia wrote:
Too bad you didn't realize what a slimy con man he was and always has been.

Too bad you feel the need for such pathetic ad-hominem attacks. Try to be a better person and you will garner more respect from those around you.

Alicia wrote:
Obama was faced with a recession and the loss of many jobs what Bush had left for him. He drove the country into the ground even after being left with a surplus of funds. Nice gift, heh? He solved much of that situation.

Creating jobs and maintaining business activities is within the purview of entrepreneurs and business owners, not Presidents. Understand this, politicians do not create jobs. They cannot create jobs because they are not in the business of producing anything. Governments are financed by forced extraction of funds from those who do produce. If you do not think government is financed by force of arms, try refusing to pay and see what happens.

Alicia wrote:
Your guy has messed up arrangements with our allies and is a laughing stock. And now he just might be successful in starting a war.

When did he become 'my guy'? He is his own 'guy'. Nobody's telling him what to do or say, it's all on him. He has gone some way to reworking arrangements between the US and its allies, mostly in the arena of trade and diplomacy. He dumped TPP - that's a bullet dodged, and he has Chinese President Xi giving the North Korean dictator Kim a pretty serious reality check over his nuclear bomb ambitions, backed up by the presence of a US navy battle group off his coast. That's a considerable pressure to 'cease and desist'.

Alicia wrote:
Please note how Ivanka was questioned abut her dad's reputation in Germany for one thing. She had nothing to say besides lying like her father.

I don't know anything about this. I heard she was booed by a crowd in Germany but don't know the context or background. Got a link?

Alicia wrote:
And how is Drumpf still getting away without showing his tax returns. For many, many years disclosing them was a requirement for any public office.

Once again, the name is 'Trump'. As for tax returns, you say that tax form disclosure is a 'requirement' for 'many, many years' for 'any public office'. Just three little words put that statement to bed for good: By what law? Go ahead, show me the law where anyone, anywhere, at any time, is 'required' to submit tax information as part of any assumption of any public office, anywhere in the United States, at any time, past, present or future. Literally any law, anywhere. I've looked. Have you?

Alicia wrote:
He may have been successful in real estate. Who wouldn't after beginning with One Million dollars for openers? Perhaps you chose to ignore the fact that he cheated his contractors in order to make more money for himself and hired short term aliens to do the heavy labor - at his price - or they would be deported.

By his own admission, Donald Trump started his business with $1 million. Then he points out "I built a company that's worth more than $10 billion. And I say it not in a bragging way". That's a 10,000-fold increase in value from outset to present, and does not include his own income. how many entrepreneurs can make that claim? Steve jobs, Bill Gates, Warren Buffett for three. I can't think of any others. Instead of dissing his (comparatively) modest beginnings, take a look at what he did with that start.

As one who has worked in contracting, I can attest to the need to read the fine print before signing. My function was to find projects that were badly designed, low-ball the bid then make a killing from the resultant change orders that would inevitably follow. The company President would brag that I could 'turn lead into gold'. All I really did was cherry-pick the dysfunctional ones and make the profit once the contract was signed. That's not 'cheating anyone, just standard operating procedure in the contracting world.

Another fact of the contracting world is a surprising lack of litigation. If one party thinks they're being cheated, the proof will be right there in the plans and specifications, in black and white. It is a simple matter to contact the party in violation of the term or requirement in question and resolve the issue without the need for legal activity - most of the time. Of course, any ambiguity will always go against the party drafting the contract. This is generally referred to as being contra proferentem. If anyone feels 'cheated', they should (a) read the contract or (b) get a lawyer to read the contract or (c) learn to read. In the contracting business, it really can be that bad.

As for hiring 'aliens' at 'his price', I have no idea. As with most things 'Trump', no doubt somebody somewhere is making such claims. I would like to see the substantiation before I made any comment either way. "[O]r they would be deported." Really? Gimme a break.

Alicia wrote:
Also, there has not been any nepotism in the Oval Office since JFK hired his brother, Robert, to be attorney general. Based on his own history, I guess Drumpf just can't trust anybody except his own family.

President Kennedy nominated his brother, Robert for the office of US Attorney General. He did not 'hire' him, as you put it. Robert Kennedy was subjected to the 'advice and consent' of the US Senate, just like any other appointed government official, and confirmed as being suitable and qualified for the post. That was not nepotism. That was finding and appointing the best people for the available positions.

President Trump has asked his son-in-law and daughter to help him in the capacity of providing advice on issues that he may be faced with from time to time. Neither of them are paid for this service and both seem happy and willing to carry out this function. The President trusts their judgement and they are willing to help. That's not nepotism either. That's just finding and appointing the best people for the available positions. In any case, as President, just exactly who can you trust, if not your own people?

Alicia wrote:
That's all I'll say for now.

Same here. That was quite the little project. Hope it 'sheds light', so to speak.

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May 1, 2017 11:03:32   #
Zombiefarmer23 Loc: Bull Hills
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
Same here. That was quite the little project. Hope it 'sheds light', so to speak.


Thank you for taking the time rebutting that pile of nonsense. Like I said, Gish.

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May 1, 2017 11:14:27   #
wuzblynd Loc: thomson georgia
 
Alicia wrote:
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Trumpf can't do anything. What has he accomplished, in a positive way, since his inauguration? Haven't you already viewed him or heard him bewailing his present position and yearning for his "good old days"? It seems as if he never thought anything regarding the presidency was going to be has difficult as it is. He lied to his followers and still hasn't come through with any of his promises.

Oh, yes, he signed some EOs bringing back dirty air and water. He placed a ban on Muslims and his decision was found to be unconstitutional. Too bad you didn't realize what a slimy con man he was and always has been.

Obama was faced with a recession and the loss of many jobs what Bush had left for him. He drove the country into the ground even after being left with a surplus of funds. Nice gift, heh? He solved much of that situation. Your guy has messed up arrangements with our allies and is a laughing stock. And now he just might be successful in starting a war. Please note how Ivanka was questioned abut her dad's reputation in Germany for one thing. She had nothing to say besides lying like her father. And how is Drumpf still getting away without showing his tax returns. For many, many years disclosing them was a requirement for any public office.

He may have been successful in real estate. Who wouldn't after beginning with One Million dollars for openers? Perhaps you chose to ignore the fact that he cheated his contractors in order to make more money for himself and hired short term aliens to do the heavy labor - at his price - or they would be deported. Also, there has not been any nepotism in the Oval Office since JFK hired his brother, Robert, to be attorney general. Based on his own history, I guess Drumpf just can't trust anybody except his own family.

That's all I'll say for now.
********************* br Trumpf can't do anything.... (show quote)





What a joke u libs are. What has he done? Yeah, ur really funny.

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May 1, 2017 11:30:01   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Docadhoc wrote:
In the '60s Berkeley was a joke. Even the Johnny Carson show called them out frequently for their idiot activities. It was a haven for the flower power free love dopers, and still attracts that same vapid minded caliber of student.


About covers it right there..!!! Well said Doc....And I wonder if any that graduated ever had a true purpose or dedication in life..Presumably once they hit the real world they saw something different, primarily themself!!!

Scary to believe these people are a mix of our futrue..Tell you anything?? Hopefully we get education back to teaching the fundamnetals and principal of this country..Although I suspect for this generation now, its completely rejected or appears so...

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May 1, 2017 13:35:02   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
Zombiefarmer23 wrote:
Thank you for taking the time rebutting that pile of nonsense. Like I said, Gish.


Only time will tell if it was worth the effort...

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