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Apr 8, 2017 00:54:44   #
the waker Loc: 11th freest nation
 
lindajoy wrote:
You are correct from what I saw of the airport..

I have to wonder if it was a message, strong message, do it again and we will be sure to cause damage?? In terms of being cautious that areas bombed were not in close proximity to citizens???

It's all so strange, really..





It's a crock, the whole scenario of Assad gassing his people was the "Black Swan event" many had been waiting for.
The Rebels were just about done, I believe this was the only way to continue theyre Civil war.

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Apr 8, 2017 04:07:02   #
Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ
 
Blue Fox wrote:
I was born before World War II. I lost my Grandfather and Godfather who risked their lives fighting the Axis powers, not obeying them. ISIS, Al Queda and the Taliban are nothing like Japan. The issues bear no similarity.
Does the writer expect us to believe that Jews in a raft came here from Poland or Germany and made it to Ellis Island? That insults our intelligence. Atrocity stories, real or imagined, committed by foreign nations have nothing to do with the United States who willingly sacrificed the lives of hundreds of thousands of her youth to defeat two of the three great tyrannies of the war. Let's not.
I was born before World War II. I lost my Grand... (show quote)


I posted the my last post from the words of a sailor stationed on a mine sweeper between 1942-1945. He was my grandfather. The times before world war II is no different from the times we live in today. Unemployment was high under the Roosevelt administration. The programs of the Roosevelt administration built a new work ethic. The working class was proud to take care of the old. This is when Social Security was born. My grandfather lived through Korea, and Vietnam and Grenada. He was upset that we were selling this country down the river to Japan. He carried a picture, old and falling apart, of the Jews in the concentration camps. His friends told him that story you are now challenging me with as a myth. When Polish Jewish refugees escaped from Hitler's Nazi German rule and made it to the United States. And how at the time the United States turned them away. They were later found in the concentration camp.

I am all for Trump, not letting in the terrorist immigrants. I am against any government of these United States to use that rule against innocent people. However, it is the terrorist, that makes it harder for the innocent to come here. We have saved the world time and time again. We saved them from the evils of the world. We saved them from Hitler, we saved them from the Nazis and we saved them from Communists. But we have yet to save them from terrorists. The terrorist are our problem. The terrorist is our cross to bare. We should eradicate the terrorist.

Society of Europe has born the Nazis and the Marxist Idea of Communism. Both ideas came from the Middle East. Our organized religions, from Christianity, Judaism, Muslim and Hinduism come from the Middle East. Civilization started in Mesopotamia. But no matter where its origin is, the same evil has followed us all over the world. For now Fascism and Communism is held at bay, but the dictators that still follow the old and now ancient feudal system still rise to power in the area of our origin.

Fact remains, no matter how much ink, or how much thought we put into it, evil will find away to use it against us for our destruction. For us to conquer this evil, we must find a simple method, to eradicate the evil. President Trump indirectly took a stand. He said to the rest of the world that America shall not be pushed around by these evil terrorists. Now it will be argued, Was President Trump right in his action? For what it seems like a generation from Clinton to Trump, the United States was pushed around, and now Trump took a stand against the CHEMICAL BURNING OF INNOCENT MEN, WOMEN and CHILDREN. Take a step back and remember why we fought World War II. Take a step back and remember all of those who lost their lives so that we could live.

Their stories are being forgotten. The only time in recent years when these stories come to light, the stories are being used for some political greedy reason. We have successfully fought against racism in this country. But racism in the world doesn't seem to end. Do you understand that the Muslim Terrorists believe that since you do not believe the same way they do, that they were commissioned by God, to make you a slave? We must stand up against this. If you believe that black people should be counted with white people as American citizens, then you should also believe that the terrorists, the Muslim terrorists are 1000 times worse than the Klu Klux Clan.

The same fight against the Clan is the same fight against Muslim terrorists. When will it stop? Do we stay out of Syria, the same country Saddam Hussein smuggled Iraq's weapons of mass destruction of 2002, to Syria! How did a leader, one who is currently involved in a major civil war, get a hold of these weapons? Ask these questions. Then understand why the President must make a statement that would be heard around the world.

Wyatt Earp, played by Kurt Russel, in the movie Tombstone, said to Ike Clanton, "I see a man wearing a red sash, I kill a man wearing the red sash. Run you cur, Run. Tell the other curs I'm coming, the law is coming, I'm coming and hell is following."

It is about time, that a president of these united States, would use the same rhetoric against the terrorists. The terrorists call it, "Who do you think you are? John Wayne?", Well maybe its overdue that John Wayne come out in all of us. One thing can be said about John Wayne, in all of his movies, He was strong. He was straight, and He was forceful, and he was arrogant, and he made his point and everyone listened. They thought Trump was weak. Trump showed different. As the savior of the free world we Americans do not run. Remember these colors do not run. If we do not stand and fight right now, like we didn't fight after World War I, if we isolate ourselves we will never be free. We must put down this new evil. The Communists are gone, Nazis are gone. All that is left are the terrorists. Putin is weak. Putin is on the wrong side with Iran and Syria.

Picture a Nazi Communist regime, that holds the same principles as the Muslims. Picture living in that society, where if you are Christian, if you believe in Christian Ideals, it is a capital crime. You will be beheaded, you will be crucified, you will be hanged, you will be now gassed. We as a nation cannot allow this to continue.

This is the true reality. Say its over there. Well on September 11, 2001, and on December 7, 1941, over there came over here!

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Apr 8, 2017 07:59:23   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
the waker wrote:
It's a crock, the whole scenario of Assad gassing his people was the "Black Swan event" many had been waiting for.
The Rebels were just about done, I believe this was the only way to continue theyre Civil war.


Yes, it is a crock!!

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Apr 8, 2017 08:42:38   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
The expression on this biased CNN reporter speaks volumes as does the man interviewed...

He speaks of the guessing that took place in 2013 and what just happened along with how the people are treated in Syria by Assad. He seems extremely thankful for the help offered by President Trump. ...He also discloses how the Syrian people do not want to leave their country they want to stay home and want the anguish to stop....

https://newswithviews.com/syrian-thanks-our-president-says-assad-has-murdered-thousands/

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Apr 8, 2017 10:45:57   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Deposing Assad would give the world another Libya. A Cash happy ISIS.
Who here wants that???
Wilkerson: Trump Attack on Syria Driven by Domestic Politics
https://youtu.be/Ah14yOHWrGY

Former Chief of Staff to Colin Powell, Col. Lawrence Wilkerson, tells Paul Jay that the Syrian Government may not be responsible for the chemical attack and that Trump's response was a violation of international law

False Flag Chemical Attack in Syria?
Similar to 2013 chemical attack, the Western governments, and corporate mainstream media accusing the Syrian gov...
False Flag Chemical Attack in Syria?
https://youtu.be/qr_ByQH2QY0

Turning a blind eye to the real gassing perps in 2013, invited more of the same. And we got it.

Previously;
The Syrian War What You're Not Being Told
https://youtu.be/dkamZg68jpk

Youjaes wrote:
I'm looking at the situation and I'm think Trump is in way over his head on this one and needs advice. How about everyone list what they would do as Commander in Chief and maybe, just maybe, someone in the intelligence circles will see this and promote some options for the president. I'll start.

First, get some cruise missile subs near Syria. Tell CIA to get some high priority targets for them so they can hit the top level command and control centers of the Syrian military. Hopefully, we have a carrier group in the region for the subs to hide under while on station. We don't need troops or jets and stuff to put one down on Assad. If we show we can take him at a moments notice and we prove we have the nerve to do it with a couple missile hits, we've got leverage.

Second, ask CIA about assets in Syria that can encourage a military coup so we don't have to lift a finger and still get a regime change. Can we do this? Can we initiate the operation? What about Syrian military assets who are willing to entertain the assassination option? I'm sure there are military personnel who have family in Allepo who got hurt in the bombing. Also, see if assets in Syria can convince Assad to step down peacefully and back channel with Putin to give asylum if he leaves now. No matter what, we want him out.

Third, publicly put it to Putin to either take action against Assad since the Russian military is already in Syria, or to publicly step aside and let someone else deal with him. The "give asylum to Assad" works with the back away option. Either way, we want our cruise missile option if we need to send a warning message.

Fourth, encourage the UN coalition to assemble a peace keeping force to intervene in the Syrian conflict in any event.

James
I'm looking at the situation and I'm think Trump i... (show quote)

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Apr 8, 2017 11:00:30   #
Armagh
 
Did anyone bother to inform Trump that it is probably US deep state (permanent) officials, and maybe even global deep state---most probably global deep state---that has orchestrated these events? Ovomit and his hangers-on? Chemical weapons belonging to revolutionaries, and terrorists? Who else would be involved?

The ISIS vermin will be soon be emerging from their wormholes.

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Apr 8, 2017 11:02:49   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
eagleye13 wrote:
Deposing Assad would give the world another Libya. A Cash happy ISIS.
Who here wants that???
Wilkerson: Trump Attack on Syria Driven by Domestic Politics
https://youtu.be/Ah14yOHWrGY

Former Chief of Staff to Colin Powell, Col. Lawrence Wilkerson, tells Paul Jay that the Syrian Government may not be responsible for the chemical attack and that Trump's response was a violation of international law

False Flag Chemical Attack in Syria?
Similar to 2013 chemical attack, the Western governments, and corporate mainstream media accusing the Syrian gov...
False Flag Chemical Attack in Syria?
https://youtu.be/qr_ByQH2QY0

Turning a blind eye to the real gassing perps in 2013, invited more of the same. And we got it.

Previously;
The Syrian War What You're Not Being Told
https://youtu.be/dkamZg68jpk
Deposing Assad would give the world another Libya.... (show quote)


How about Turkey??

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/04/07/proof-turkey-did-2013-sarin-attack-and-did-this-one-too/

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Apr 8, 2017 12:42:05   #
Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ
 
lindajoy wrote:
The expression on this biased CNN reporter speaks volumes as does the man interviewed...

He speaks of the guessing that took place in 2013 and what just happened along with how the people are treated in Syria by Assad. He seems extremely thankful for the help offered by President Trump. ...He also discloses how the Syrian people do not want to leave their country they want to stay home and want the anguish to stop....

https://newswithviews.com/syrian-thanks-our-president-says-assad-has-murdered-thousands/
The expression on this biased CNN reporter speaks ... (show quote)


They have been for the past eight years, they have been asking us for help. America under Obama refused or at the very least gave little to no help in combating ISIS, Al Qaeda, Hamas. First we sided with the rebels, then Obama sided with Asseed. Then, Obama didn't side with Asseed. Then Obama warned Added. Asseed defied Obama.

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Apr 8, 2017 12:50:04   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 


The link does not transmit,lj.
America has some strange bed fellows.

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Apr 8, 2017 13:00:32   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Armagh wrote:
Did anyone bother to inform Trump that it is probably US deep state (permanent) officials, and maybe even global deep state---most probably global deep state---that has orchestrated these events? Ovomit and his hangers-on? Chemical weapons belonging to revolutionaries, and terrorists? Who else would be involved?

The ISIS vermin will be soon be emerging from their wormholes.


Agree with what you say!!! Also see you're new. Welcome and enjoy!!
Some good people, great topics and lots of differing opinions.

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Apr 8, 2017 13:02:44   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
eagleye13 wrote:
The link does not transmit,lj.
America has some strange bed fellows.


I just tried it and it works??
Brb Going to get it..

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Apr 8, 2017 13:04:08   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Ranger7374 wrote:
They have been for the past eight years, they have been asking us for help. America under Obama refused or at the very least gave little to no help in combating ISIS, Al Qaeda, Hamas. First we sided with the rebels, then Obama sided with Asseed. Then, Obama didn't side with Asseed. Then Obama warned Added. Asseed defied Obama.


Almost verbatim from the gentlemen interviewed..

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Apr 8, 2017 13:37:49   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
lindajoy wrote:
I just tried it and it works??
Brb Going to get it..


http://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/04/07/proof-turkey-did-2013-sarin-attack-and-did-this-one-too/

Syrian Thanks Our President, Says Assad Has Murdered Thousands
Apr 08, 2017 Read More Articles by Amil Imani
Tomahawk Missiles Launched

The civilized world witnessed in revulsion the graphic images, which emerged showing the aftermath of a dawn poison gas attack that killed at least 86, including 20 children, in rebel-held northwestern Syria. This was one of the worst chemical bombings in Syria that caused a northern rebel-held area into a toxin zone last Tuesday, stirring worldwide outrage over Assad’s lack of accountability in his country’s six-year civil war.

The US launched 59 Tomahawk cruise missiles at Syria after a chemical weapons attack which struck the airfield where Syria based its warplanes used in the chemical attack, according to Navy Capt. Jeff Davis, a Pentagon spokesman. Afterward, Trump told the American people it is in their “vital national security interests” to “prevent and deter the spread and use of deadly chemical weapons.”

President Trump claims Assad’s forces launched the nerve gas on his own people while the Syrian government has denounced this assessment, calling the accusation, “full of lies.” Who is right?


This Syrian citizen is thanking God and President Trump for finally listening to them. He tells of the many times Assad has murdered his own people, and that for six years they’ve been pleading for help. Watch the 3-minute video and watch the face of the CNN reporter!

I wanted you to watch the video..
Try thelink again ?? I don't know why it won't open for you??

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Apr 8, 2017 13:59:38   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
lindajoy wrote:
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/04/07/proof-turkey-did-2013-sarin-attack-and-did-this-one-too/

Syrian Thanks Our President, Says Assad Has Murdered Thousands
Apr 08, 2017 Read More Articles by Amil Imani
Tomahawk Missiles Launched

The civilized world witnessed in revulsion the graphic images, which emerged showing the aftermath of a dawn poison gas attack that killed at least 86, including 20 children, in rebel-held northwestern Syria. This was one of the worst chemical bombings in Syria that caused a northern rebel-held area into a toxin zone last Tuesday, stirring worldwide outrage over Assad’s lack of accountability in his country’s six-year civil war.

The US launched 59 Tomahawk cruise missiles at Syria after a chemical weapons attack which struck the airfield where Syria based its warplanes used in the chemical attack, according to Navy Capt. Jeff Davis, a Pentagon spokesman. Afterward, Trump told the American people it is in their “vital national security interests” to “prevent and deter the spread and use of deadly chemical weapons.”

President Trump claims Assad’s forces launched the nerve gas on his own people while the Syrian government has denounced this assessment, calling the accusation, “full of lies.” Who is right?


This Syrian citizen is thanking God and President Trump for finally listening to them. He tells of the many times Assad has murdered his own people, and that for six years they’ve been pleading for help. Watch the 3-minute video and watch the face of the CNN reporter!

I wanted you to watch the video..
Try thelink again ?? I don't know why it won't open for you??
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/04/07/proof-turk... (show quote)

nope
"500 Internal Server Error"

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Apr 8, 2017 17:59:40   #
Armagh
 
lindajoy wrote:
Agree with what you say!!! Also see you're new. Welcome and enjoy!!
Some good people, great topics and lots of differing opinions.



I believe Americans are too naive, or "something", to understand what's really going on here; this is NOT about Assad (my guy) or Syria. At least not in a direct way. Assad and the rest of the world will benefit eventually. And that is all I can say.

Well, I can say this: Trump "appears" to be relying on intel gathered by suspect, maybe "rogue" (read 'global deep state here) American intel agents. He's draining the swamp.

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