thebigp

How to defeat ISIS--8fh.,b2--
"Degradation of ISIS is not the end goal,” Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said last week. In what appeared to be a criticism of the Obama White House's ineffective campaign against the Islamic State, the Trump administration's top diplomat insisted, "We must defeat ISIS." At a two-day summit bringing together officials from the 68 countries and international organizations that form the anti-ISIS coalition, Tillerson said that "defeating ISIS is the United States' number one goal in the region."
The Obama administration failed in its efforts to defeat ISIS mainly because it never took on the Shiite expansionism—emanating from Tehran and spreading through the central government in Baghdad to Damascus and Beirut—that has fueled Sunni extremism. Given a choice between the depredations of the Islamic State and those of the Shiite militias backed by Iran, Sunnis caught in the middle have typically chosen to endure the former rather than risk the latter.
The Bush administration came to understand the sectarian roots of the problem. The surge that turned around the U.S.-led war in Iraq was premised on the notion that the only way to get Iraq's Sunni tribes to fight foreign extremists was to tackle the Shiite militias that threatened those tribes.
In its efforts to butter up Iran, the better to seal a deal with Tehran's mullahs, this latter approach is what the Obama White House chose. That is why its anti-ISIS policy failed. Sunnis who might otherwise have resisted ISIS refused to buy in. They saw the U.S. policy, correctly, as pro-Iran.
Worryingly, the Trump administration's ISIS policy appears at this early stage to be stuck in some of the ruts left by its predecessor. Iraq's prime minister Haider al-Abadi visited Washington last week, where he met with President Trump and Secretary Tillerson, who promised a "strategic partnership" to help defeat ISIS. Abadi said that it's important to get local Sunnis on board, but that's going to be very difficult since the Iraqi forces leading the campaign are drawn from mainly Shiite popular mobilization units (PMU), some of which have committed atrocities against the Sunni population. In November the Iraqi parliament recognized these militias as legitimate military forces. Policymakers and analysts have tried to distinguish between those PMUs that are backed by Iran's Revolutionary Guard Corps and those independent of Iranian assistance. But that's an imaginary distinction. The Iraqi interior ministry, which oversees security forces, is led by Qasim Mohammad Jalal al-Araji, who is himself a veteran of Iran's Revolutionary Guards. All of the PMUs are effectively taking orders from the head of the Revolutionary Guard Corps's Quds Force, Qassem Soleimani.
Lebanon's foreign minister Gebran Bassil was also in Washington last week, where he contended that "Lebanon is a natural ally of the United States in its fight against terrorism." By which of course Bassil meant the fight against ISIS and other Sunni groups, not the U.S.-designated foreign terrorist organization that controls Lebanon, its army, and government—the Shiite terrorist group Hezbollah. Bassil's father-in-law, Lebanese president Michel Aoun, is a Hezbollah ally who recently said the Lebanese Armed Forces will fight alongside Hezbollah in another war with Israel. In Washington, Bassil reaffirmed Aoun's message and then had the nerve to demand that the United States continue to support the Lebanese Army.
That would be to continue a disastrous policy. As Tony Badran, a research fellow at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, told me, "under the cover of fighting ISIS, the U.S. policy of supporting [the Lebanese Army] has contributed to Hezbollah's consolidation of its primacy in Lebanon, as well as to the expansion of Hezbollah's strategic interests in Syria.
Israeli jets struck twice in Syrian territory, once against a shipment of game-changing weapons destined for Hezbollah, and then against a Syrian militiaman who dealt with the Iranians. In retaliation, the Syrians fired antiaircraft rounds that were intercepted by Israel's Arrow-2 system. As Israel's airstrikes showed, our key Middle East ally is defending against the same forces that the Trump administration may be tempted to think are useful partners in the anti-ISIS campaign.
The anti-ISIS campaign cannot succeed without vigilance against Iran and its allies. The Obama administration's realignment with Iran was wrong and dangerous and also deliberate. With equal deliberation, the Trump White House needs to set a new course.
source--lee smith, weekly std, pmu, oassem soleimani, michel aoun, gebran bassil

ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island

thebigp wrote:
How to defeat ISIS--8fh.,b2-- br "Degradation... (show quote)
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If you really want to defeat ISIS, you need to know it's history and how it was created.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/america-created-al-qaeda-and-the-isis-terror-group/5402881

Mr Bombastic

If everyone simply coated their ammo with bacon fat, they would go back and hide in their caves. It worked once, it will work again. They won't be willing to die for their cause if it costs them their soul.

ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island

Saudis To Kerry: We Created ISIS...And CIA Knew

written by daniel mcadams
thursday april 21, 2016

It was US intervention in the Middle East, say the Saudis, that led us to create first al-Qaeda and then ISIS. The US attack on Iraq tipped the balance in the region in favor of Iran and counter-measures needed to be taken. This is nothing new. The CIA helped create and back the Mujahideen in Afghanistan to counter the 1979 Soviet invasion. And the CIA knew about (at the least) Saudi plans to counter Iran's rise in the region and the uncertainty produced by US-instigated "Arab Spring" beginning in 2011. The lesson? Interventionism has consequences, some intended and some unintended. Usually counter to the stated objectives. Trying to order the world, the central planners have only created chaos.

http://ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2016/april/21/saudis-to-kerry-we-created-isisand-cia-knew/

https://youtu.be/Jm5fRu9xJI8

Roseland Loc: Florida

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Now, we have so much problem how to defeat ISIS. But in 2013-14, Mr. Obama was asked by US military to take out ISIS.
He refused calling ISIS just a JV TEAM. Now, ISIS the greatest threat to the US, Europe, and all over the world. It is bound to destroy all of Christianity. I think ISIS is the greatest legacy of Mr. Obama.

Mr Bombastic

Christianity will never be destroyed. People have been trying for two thousand years. Ain't gonna happen.

Roseland Loc: Florida

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Europe is at the brink of civilization. Once the center of Christian civilization since the Middle Ages. How Europe advanced its civilization due to its Christian influence. Now, it seems that Islam has taken a huge grip on to more barbaric ways.
London is already taken. Christian churches are closing in Europe, and replaced by Mosques.
In the US we must be vigilant, and ensure that President Trump drives away those Mohammedans.

Mr Bombastic

Nothing happens, on a global scale, unless God wills it. It's all in His hands. Perhaps the rise of Islam is part of His plan. The book of Revelations tells of Christians being beheaded for not receiving the mark of the beast. Now, who do we know who loves to cut people's heads off?