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Apr 4, 2017 12:04:29   #
Big Bass
 
Glaucon wrote:
You are not a nice person and I have received your mindless insults, but I have not received any questions from you.


"Exactly how did Russia change votes?" asked JFlorio. (Scroll up to see for yourself.)
Is this chopped liver?????

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Apr 4, 2017 12:13:25   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
It is a simple question. Like every other subject all the liberals do is throw out accusations then when asked for specific proof just make fools of themselves.
Big Bass wrote:
"Exactly how did Russia change votes?" asked JFlorio. (Scroll up to see for yourself.)
Is this chopped liver?????

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Apr 4, 2017 12:21:05   #
Big Bass
 
JFlorio wrote:
It is a simple question. Like every other subject all the liberals do is throw out accusations then when asked for specific proof just make fools of themselves.


The idiocy of these fools is simply astounding. One of the latest - you hear them yelling for Trump's impeachment. Ask them on what charges. The stock reply is, "I dunno. We haven't made one up yet." They are trying to obfuscate on the latest revelations of liberal skullduggery (illegal surveillance) but they can't even do that properly.

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Apr 4, 2017 12:32:22   #
200MPHTape
 
Big Bass wrote:
The idiocy of these fools is simply astounding. One of the latest - you hear them yelling for Trump's impeachment. Ask them on what charges. The stock reply is, "I dunno. We haven't made one up yet." They are trying to obfuscate on the latest revelations of liberal skullduggery (illegal surveillance) but they can't even do that properly.
And with every word spoken gathered in the surveillance not one "smidgen" of proof that there was collusion or anything else illegal, or he(Trump) would have never even made it as far as Nov.7.

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Apr 4, 2017 12:40:23   #
Big Bass
 
200MPHTape wrote:
And with every word spoken gathered in the surveillance not one "smidgen" of proof that there was collusion or anything else illegal, or he(Trump) would have never even made it as far as Nov.7.


Exactly. Perhaps some of these poor hapless buggers need to be euthanized to put them out of their misery.

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Apr 4, 2017 12:41:27   #
Big Bass
 
JFlorio wrote:
It is a simple question. Like every other subject all the liberals do is throw out accusations then when asked for specific proof just make fools of themselves.


... and STILL no answer to your question.

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Apr 4, 2017 12:45:44   #
Randy131 Loc: Florida
 
Everyone on this site knows that with people like you the proof and truth means nothing, That's why it is not worth arguing with you. Two days ago I put up 4 articles from 4 different sources, all proving the same thing, but each doing it in a seperate and different way. What did the ass say about those articles? That he doesn't believe them because they were not from the NY Times, Washington Post, Chicago Tribune, or Los Angeles Times, who he claims always shows the opposing views when reporting on anything, and my sources didn't do the same, so he isn't going to believe my sources articles. I aske for proof, of just one time in the last 30 years, that any of his sources ever showed the opposing view with their own reports, and he never came back, and said nothing. You and he are probably the same person, if not, then out of the same mold, were proof and truth means nothing to you. I also mentioned to him to find out how many times that the NY Times and Washington Post had to publicly apologizing for reporting untrue and false reports, which even sometimes they fired their reporter, but not many times.



Glaucon wrote:
You say, "Those three independent voter organizations have the statistical proof, and have already published it, and nobody even tried to prove them wrong, and I wonder why?" The reason nobody has tried to prove them wrong is because no one was aware of these organizations or their reports. I think you are drinking your own Kool aid again. You can prove elephants can fly in some mythical reports by some mythical organizations if you search the web with your biases mind set and lack of a shit detector. If you keep your sources secret, no one can prove them right or wrong. Get it?
You say, "Those three independent voter organ... (show quote)

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Apr 4, 2017 13:46:13   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Randy131 wrote:
You fail to tell all the truth. Obama had strings to that tax payer money, and he sent his own personal campaign staff over to direct how that money was to be spent, and Obama's personal campaign staff made sure that tax payer money was spent according to what Obama had designated it for, so don't blame the Israelis who were being used by Obama and his pesronal campaign staff, sent with the tax payer money to direct it's spending to try to unseat Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.




You are doing several thing wrong.. You imply that what went on in the Israeli elections is the same that the Russian did to ours.. Not so..

From a USA today article..
www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2015/02/12/israel-election-us-consultants-donors/23237871/

There is no legal ban on foreign campaign consultants.

The Republican consultants and money supporting right-wing causes provide a boost to Netanyahu's Likud Party, while the Democrats back the more liberal Labor Party and the Zionist Camp, a center-left coalition that includes Labor.

In a statement to USA TODAY, Likud confirmed that Republican political strategists Vincent Harris and John McLaughlin have "advisory roles to complement" the party's professional team to "ensure the public is aware of the party's accomplishments and plans for the future."

Harris has worked for Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., and Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas. In an interview with The Jerusalem Post, he denied claims by supporters of Netanyahu's rival for prime minister, Labor Party head Isaac Herzog, that he is a GOP emissary charged with keeping the hawkish Israeli leader in office.

Uri Wollman, V15's spokesman, told USA TODAY that its funding comes from four philanthropists, including two based in the USA: S. Daniel Abraham, founder of Slim Fast Foods and a major Democratic Party donor, and Daniel Lubetzky, founder of OneVoice, which has received grants from the U.S. and European governments.

Two grants totaling $350,000 came from the State Department, according to department and other documents. Last month, Cruz and Rep. Lee Zeldin, R-N.Y., sent Secretary of State John Kerry a letter demanding details on who approved U.S. government funds for OneVoice, how they are being spent and whether OneVoice's work with V15 violates its status as a tax-exempt organization.

"Has President Obama launched a political campaign against Prime Minister Netanyahu and his representatives?" Cruz asked.

In response, OneVoice said the State Department provided funding to bolster Israeli-Palestinian negotiations and didn't assist V15. The State Department said the funding ended in November 2014.

Likud receives non-financial backing from Yisrael Hayom, a pro-Netanyahu newspaper funded by American billionaire Sheldon Adelson, a leading Republican donor. More Israelis read Yisrael Hayom than any other newspaper.

"We don't know how much money Adelson invests in Yisrael Hayom, but we do know it's losing a lot of money," said Menachem Hofnung, a Hebrew University political scientist. "The Likud doesn't even try to pretend the paper is unbiased in its favor."

Running a daily newspaper of that size costs millions of dollars a year.

Shmuel Sandler, a political scientist at Bar Ilan University, said the fact that the vast majority of overseas funding appears to emanate from Jewish donors "is part of the whole Zionist philosophy that the Jewish people are one and that Israel is the home of all Jews." Funding coming from foreign governments "would be very problematic," said Sandler, an expert on Israeli elections and Israeli-U.S. relations

Rabinowitz, the Washington strategist who had worked for Clinton, said the Republican and Democratic consultants working for V15 and Likud do so "because it's a business, and they're flattered to be wanted in an influential country like Israel."

"Nobody in Washington is dispatching these guys to work for their favorite candidates, as much as a lot of folks in Washington would like one party or the other to win," Rabinowitz said. "Nobody is guiding money or staff. No politician is involved in the Israeli election, except maybe in church or synagogue, where they're praying for the 'good guys' to win."



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Apr 4, 2017 14:01:14   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Voter fraud???


Not even Mc Connell will spend money looking after that..

From "the hill"

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/317963-mcconnell-no-federal-money-for-voter-fraud-probe

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) on Sunday said he doesn’t want to spend federal funds to investigate what President Trump claimed was massive voter fraud in the 2016 presidential election.

While McConnell says there is voter fraud, he doesn’t believe it’s as widespread as Trump claims or requires federal intervention. He says that cleaning up voter rolls is best left to the states.

“Election fraud does occur,” he told CNN’s “State of the Union.” But he added that “there’s no evidence that occurred in such a significant number that it would have changed the presidential election.”

“I don’t think we ought to spend any federal money investigating that. I think the states can take a look at this issue. Many of them have tried to tighten their voter rolls, tried to purge people who are dead,” he added.

Trump claimed during a meeting at the White House with congressional leaders earlier this month that he lost the popular vote to Hillary Clinton because of 3 million to 5 million votes by illegal immigrants.

The president announced on Jan. 25 that he would ask for “a major investigation” into voter fraud, including a review of people who are registered to vote in two states and people who are deceased but still on voter rolls.

Republican leaders who were gathered at the annual Republican retreat in Philadelphia when Trump made his announcement said they saw no evidence of voter fraud on the scale claimed by Trump.

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Apr 4, 2017 14:01:57   #
Randy131 Loc: Florida
 
"You imply that what went on in the Israeli elections is the same that the Russian did to ours.."

That's what makes you such a 'Useful Idiot' for the liberals, progressives, and Democrats, synonymous with socialists, communists, and fascists, that you and all the Democrats, no matter how hard and long you try, can't prove that the Russians actually did anything that affected our elections, and even Adam Schiff has now publicly admitted that truth. Trump just ran an honest campaign, and what was really wrong with it to people like you, is that it beat your criminal Hillary Clinton, and are now trying to blame that humiliating loss on the Russians, but you can't even do that. What a bunch of losers you guys are, the American people are happy that Trump won, but they don't really know and understand how lucky they are that the inept, incompetent, malfeasant, greedy, and tremendously corrupt Hillary Clinton lost. You idiots can't even make up or invent a believable scenario about how the Russians could actually affect or elections and help Trump win it. What a truly waste of my time! I'm signing off this site, their are too many idiots that don't even know what they are complaining about, but are just crying because they lost, boy how pathetic can people get to waste their time on this BS.



permafrost wrote:
You are doing several thing wrong.. You imply that what went on in the Israeli elections is the same that the Russian did to ours.. Not so..

From a USA today article..
www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2015/02/12/israel-election-us-consultants-donors/23237871/

There is no legal ban on foreign campaign consultants.

The Republican consultants and money supporting right-wing causes provide a boost to Netanyahu's Likud Party, while the Democrats back the more liberal Labor Party and the Zionist Camp, a center-left coalition that includes Labor.

In a statement to USA TODAY, Likud confirmed that Republican political strategists Vincent Harris and John McLaughlin have "advisory roles to complement" the party's professional team to "ensure the public is aware of the party's accomplishments and plans for the future."

Harris has worked for Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., and Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas. In an interview with The Jerusalem Post, he denied claims by supporters of Netanyahu's rival for prime minister, Labor Party head Isaac Herzog, that he is a GOP emissary charged with keeping the hawkish Israeli leader in office.

Uri Wollman, V15's spokesman, told USA TODAY that its funding comes from four philanthropists, including two based in the USA: S. Daniel Abraham, founder of Slim Fast Foods and a major Democratic Party donor, and Daniel Lubetzky, founder of OneVoice, which has received grants from the U.S. and European governments.

Two grants totaling $350,000 came from the State Department, according to department and other documents. Last month, Cruz and Rep. Lee Zeldin, R-N.Y., sent Secretary of State John Kerry a letter demanding details on who approved U.S. government funds for OneVoice, how they are being spent and whether OneVoice's work with V15 violates its status as a tax-exempt organization.

"Has President Obama launched a political campaign against Prime Minister Netanyahu and his representatives?" Cruz asked.

In response, OneVoice said the State Department provided funding to bolster Israeli-Palestinian negotiations and didn't assist V15. The State Department said the funding ended in November 2014.

Likud receives non-financial backing from Yisrael Hayom, a pro-Netanyahu newspaper funded by American billionaire Sheldon Adelson, a leading Republican donor. More Israelis read Yisrael Hayom than any other newspaper.

"We don't know how much money Adelson invests in Yisrael Hayom, but we do know it's losing a lot of money," said Menachem Hofnung, a Hebrew University political scientist. "The Likud doesn't even try to pretend the paper is unbiased in its favor."

Running a daily newspaper of that size costs millions of dollars a year.

Shmuel Sandler, a political scientist at Bar Ilan University, said the fact that the vast majority of overseas funding appears to emanate from Jewish donors "is part of the whole Zionist philosophy that the Jewish people are one and that Israel is the home of all Jews." Funding coming from foreign governments "would be very problematic," said Sandler, an expert on Israeli elections and Israeli-U.S. relations

Rabinowitz, the Washington strategist who had worked for Clinton, said the Republican and Democratic consultants working for V15 and Likud do so "because it's a business, and they're flattered to be wanted in an influential country like Israel."

"Nobody in Washington is dispatching these guys to work for their favorite candidates, as much as a lot of folks in Washington would like one party or the other to win," Rabinowitz said. "Nobody is guiding money or staff. No politician is involved in the Israeli election, except maybe in church or synagogue, where they're praying for the 'good guys' to win."
You are doing several thing wrong.. You imply tha... (show quote)

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Apr 4, 2017 14:30:01   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Randy131 wrote:
"You imply that what went on in the Israeli elections is the same that the Russian did to ours.."

That's what makes you such a 'Useful Idiot' for the liberals, progressives, and Democrats, synonymous with socialists, communists, and fascists, that you and all the Democrats, no matter how hard and long you try, can't prove that the Russians actually did anything that affected our elections, and even Adam Schiff has now publicly admitted that truth. Trump just ran an honest campaign, and what was really wrong with it to people like you, is that it beat your criminal Hillary Clinton, and are now trying to blame that humiliating loss on the Russians, but you can't even do that. What a bunch of losers you guys are, the American people are happy that Trump won, but they don't really know and understand how lucky they are that the inept, incompetent, malfeasant, greedy, and tremendously corrupt Hillary Clinton lost. You idiots can't even make up or invent a believable scenario about how the Russians could actually affect or elections and help Trump win it. What a truly waste of my time! I'm signing off this site, their are too many idiots that don't even know what they are complaining about, but are just crying because they lost, boy how pathetic can people get to waste their time on this BS.
"You imply that what went on in the Israeli e... (show quote)




randy,


does that mean you are a coward??? signing off? OK, go for it...

the ultamate reason the dems lost was the stupid leaders in New York who did nothing but think trumps backers would see that the disgusting man was what he is and not vote for him.

But rather the lazy ass dem voters who did not get off their butts to vote as it was in the bags..

Impeach trump..... not unless they can also remove about 2 dozen of his swamp dwellers.. Let the fool of an orange man remain in office right up to 2020... That is the best track for the dems..

trump has about 35% backing, falling by the day.. Unless he starts a war, he will be isolated in a couple of years..

This power by the minority is a lost cause by definition..

Most of America and the world, hate the ass of an orange man.. Using his office to enrich himself..

When and if he does something you like and think is good for the working/middle class, let us know.. so far his only doings have been for the very rich and the big corporations..



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Apr 4, 2017 14:39:45   #
Big Bass
 
permafrost wrote:
randy,


does that mean you are a coward??? signing off? OK, go for it...

the ultamate reason the dems lost was the stupid leaders in New York who did nothing but think trumps backers would see that the disgusting man was what he is and not vote for him.

But rather the lazy ass dem voters who did not get off their butts to vote as it was in the bags..

Impeach trump..... not unless they can also remove about 2 dozen of his swamp dwellers.. Let the fool of an orange man remain in office right up to 2020... That is the best track for the dems..

trump has about 35% backing, falling by the day.. Unless he starts a war, he will be isolated in a couple of years..

This power by the minority is a lost cause by definition..

Most of America and the world, hate the ass of an orange man.. Using his office to enrich himself..

When and if he does something you like and think is good for the working/middle class, let us know.. so far his only doings have been for the very rich and the big corporations..
randy, br br br does that mean you are a coward?... (show quote)


As soon as you prove any of this, let us know. BTW: 58% approval rating for Trump's handling of the economy. You have backed a real loser. Typical!

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Apr 4, 2017 14:47:27   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Big Bass wrote:
As soon as you prove any of this, let us know. BTW: 58% approval rating for Trump's handling of the economy. You have backed a real loser. Typical!



What is it that you think is not proved??? what would you consider proof?? One of your fish wrap blogs printing what the rest of the world already knows??

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/327086-poll-trump-approval-rating-plummets


President Trump’s approval rating has tumbled 11 points since March, according to a new poll released Monday.

Thirty-four percent of Americans approve of Trump’s job performance in the latest Investor’s Business Daily (IBD)/TechnoMetrica Institute of Policy and Politics (TIPP) survey.

Fifty-six percent disprove of Trump’s showing instead, and Monday’s results mark an 11-point drop in Trump’s approval rating since the president’s 45 percent last month in the same poll.


“As his ambitious agenda encounters some obstacles in Congress, President Trump’s approval ratings have declined,” said Raghavan Mayur, president of TechnoMetrica and director of the IBD/TIPP poll.
“For instance, the inability of Congress to pass the proposed healthcare bill has weighed down Americans’ approval of Trump’s overall performance as president,” he added, citing last month’s defeat of the GOP's American Health Care Act (AHCA).

Monday’s results found that 49 percent say Trump’s leadership is weak, contrasted by 35 percent who believe it is strong.

Thirty-nine percent are satisfied with America’s direction under Trump, an 11-point decrease from 50 percent in IBD/TIPP’s February survey.

Twenty-five percent said the AHCA would have improved the U.S. healthcare system, with 50 percent saying ObamaCare is sustainable if left alone and 48 percent believing it is not.

Trump said Sunday Republican efforts to repeal and replace ObamaCare remain alive following the AHCA’s stunning collapse last month.

“Anybody (especially Fake News media) who thinks that Repeal & Replace of ObamaCare is dead does not know the love and strength in R Party!” he tweeted.

Trump last week threatened to back 2018 primary election challenges against House Freedom Caucus members after the conservative group helped torpedo the AHCA.

“The Freedom Caucus will hurt the entire Republican agenda if they don’t get on the team, & fast,” he tweeted March 30. "We must fight them, & Dems, in 2018!”

Freedom Caucus members fiercely opposed the AHCA before a House vote last month, leading Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) to yank the controversial bill ahead of its expected death on the chamber floor.

Trump’s criticism of the conservative group casts doubt on the GOP’s ability to make progress on the president’s other agenda items such as tax reform and a major infrastructure package.



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Apr 4, 2017 14:54:18   #
Big Bass
 
permafrost wrote:
What is it that you think is not proved??? what would you consider proof?? One of your fish wrap blogs printing what the rest of the world already knows??

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/327086-poll-trump-approval-rating-plummets


President Trump’s approval rating has tumbled 11 points since March, according to a new poll released Monday.

Thirty-four percent of Americans approve of Trump’s job performance in the latest Investor’s Business Daily (IBD)/TechnoMetrica Institute of Policy and Politics (TIPP) survey.

Fifty-six percent disprove of Trump’s showing instead, and Monday’s results mark an 11-point drop in Trump’s approval rating since the president’s 45 percent last month in the same poll.


“As his ambitious agenda encounters some obstacles in Congress, President Trump’s approval ratings have declined,” said Raghavan Mayur, president of TechnoMetrica and director of the IBD/TIPP poll.
“For instance, the inability of Congress to pass the proposed healthcare bill has weighed down Americans’ approval of Trump’s overall performance as president,” he added, citing last month’s defeat of the GOP's American Health Care Act (AHCA).

Monday’s results found that 49 percent say Trump’s leadership is weak, contrasted by 35 percent who believe it is strong.

Thirty-nine percent are satisfied with America’s direction under Trump, an 11-point decrease from 50 percent in IBD/TIPP’s February survey.

Twenty-five percent said the AHCA would have improved the U.S. healthcare system, with 50 percent saying ObamaCare is sustainable if left alone and 48 percent believing it is not.

Trump said Sunday Republican efforts to repeal and replace ObamaCare remain alive following the AHCA’s stunning collapse last month.

“Anybody (especially Fake News media) who thinks that Repeal & Replace of ObamaCare is dead does not know the love and strength in R Party!” he tweeted.

Trump last week threatened to back 2018 primary election challenges against House Freedom Caucus members after the conservative group helped torpedo the AHCA.

“The Freedom Caucus will hurt the entire Republican agenda if they don’t get on the team, & fast,” he tweeted March 30. "We must fight them, & Dems, in 2018!”

Freedom Caucus members fiercely opposed the AHCA before a House vote last month, leading Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) to yank the controversial bill ahead of its expected death on the chamber floor.

Trump’s criticism of the conservative group casts doubt on the GOP’s ability to make progress on the president’s other agenda items such as tax reform and a major infrastructure package.
What is it that you think is not proved??? what ... (show quote)


Everything anti-rightwing you say.

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Apr 4, 2017 14:58:11   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Big Bass wrote:
Everything anti-rightwing you say.




BB,

I will accept that as the most well thought out opinion you can manage.. The last word in right wing emotion..



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