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Mar 29, 2017 16:44:29   #
JediKnight
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
What do you suppose she meant by "get as much information about them as you can" means?? Were they pretending to mop the floors while "listening" in of others conversations. Hiding out in the restroom stalls listening to them talk on their cell phones while they crapped?? Or, were they spying, which it would appear to involve being hooked into phone conversations?? Were they pretending to be janitors, getting on computers at night to read emails?

It's clearly an admission of trying to secretly get information which they might be able to use later against the Trump team. That much is pretty evident.
What do you suppose she meant by "get as much... (show quote)


I think when the original investigation into Trump's dealings with Putin began in July of 2016, that set the "spying" wheels into motion.
To go on national television, and request Russia to "hack into our election" was a very huge mistake, even if he now claims it was "just a joke," that doesn't matter. He further shot himself in the foot by making all the cozy comments about "what a great leader Putin is...." I am pretty certain that if any of the spying was "illegal" we would definitely know by now, don't you think? What many people are overlooking is; it is a duty of our government to ensure that our politicians are not making shady deals with foreigners or foreign governments that may profit the politician while presenting possible harm to our country. Trump has a LOT of explaining to do about his deals in foreign countries - not just Russia. When he accepted the nomination, he automatically accepted that there would be extensive vetting and background checks. That's one of the reasons the past presidents ALL divested their personal businesses while in office - so as NOT to have those conflicts of interests. Since Trump refused to do so, he opened the door to be investigated. The very nature of "investigation" implies that "we won't tell you HOW we got the information until we are ready to do so, and if your answers do not line up with what was found....then, it sucks to be you. Trump is simply experiencing the old adage: "As a man soweth, that shall he also surely reap." If he had nothing to hide, this would not bother him and he would release his tax returns.

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Mar 29, 2017 16:56:20   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
full, I notice that your source, The Horn News id quoted by other posters on OPP. I am not familiar with this news source. I assume it is a conservative news source. I trust several sources, the FBI, The NY Times, the Washington Post, and CNN. According to them, there is a real possibility of collusion between Trump's transition team and Putin's Russia. The evidence released so far is circumstantial, but compelling. I will not make up my mind until all evidence is out. I suggest that you do the same.
full, I notice that your source, The Horn News id ... (show quote)


Yes, yes, given your quoted source of reliance is it any wonder they say what you claim ?? You folllowed them in the campaign right?? What did they keep telling you?? Who is now President?? Yet, you continue to believe them.. Simply amazing.. They say what you want to hear and that makes it all up n up!!!

How about these gentlemen of the same Dem party in high level positions?? Do you believe them or are they lying too???

I've posted this elsewhere and seems a good place to follow on what you have said..The Dems know the truth but have lied so much and been exposed for such they have now boxed themselves in.. Let's also remember the leaked emails on how they were going to set Berney up with sex scandals and outside involvement rings of Socialist.. When Berney bowed out all they did was change names to Trump!

Take note of the heavy hitters from the Dems involved too~

Throughout much of the presidential campaign of Donald Trump — or at least during the latter stages, as revelation after revelation about the Democrats was dumped by WikiLeaks — there was a steady drumbeat from the media, from the team working for Hillary Clinton and others that the Trump campaign was colluding with Russia.

That is, that Russian hackers were responsible for the leaks ravaging the Democratic Party and Clinton, and WikiLeaks was merely the conduit the Russians were using to publish the information. There was even talk that the Russians were going to hack the election itself and affect the outcome.

In the end, ex-President Obama ended up denying there was any tampering with the election results by Russians, and now, finally, it appears the Democrats have all but conceded that media hype about Russian collusion with the Trump campaign isn’t backed up by even an ounce of truth.

An article on political website The Intercept by award-winning journalist Glenn Greenwald was quoted widely in the media recently wherein Greenwald stated that “key Democratic officials are clearly worried about the expectations [regarding Trump-Russia collusion] that have been purposely stoked and are now trying to tamp them down. Many of them tried to signal that the beliefs the base has been led to adopt have no basis in reason or evidence.”

Greenwald went on to call the Trump-Russia story a “fact-free conspiracy” and quoted at length globalist cheerleader Michael Morell, former acting head of the CIA for President Obama and one of the most prominent public officials to endorse Hillary Clinton for president in 2016. (Political watchers may remember Morell loudly calling for the death of aides to Vladimir Putin in an interview last August with PBS’ Charlie Rose.)

“On the question of the Trump campaign conspiring with the Russians here, there’s smoke, but there’s no fire at all,” Morell admitted, adding, “There’s no little campfire; there’s no little candle; there’s no spark. And there’s a lot of people looking for it.”

Regarding the so-called ‘Dirty Dossier’ on Trump produced by British intelligence veteran Christopher Steele that was published by Buzzfeed and CNN in December last year, Morell admitted that Steele had paid his sources, which probably meant they were compromised or exaggerated.

The dossier “doesn’t take you anywhere, I don’t think,” he frankly confessed. Of course, last August, Morell was much more accusatory toward then-candidate Trump, saying then, “In the intelligence business, we would say that Mr. Putin had recruited Mr. Trump as an unwitting agent of the Russian Federation.”

But perhaps Morell is taking a new cue from his former boss, ex-Director of National Intelligence (DNI) James Clapper, who declared on NBC’s Meet the Press that regarding Trump and Russia, “we had no evidence of such collusion.”

This statement is all the more remarkable coming from a man who’s known for prevarication if it can politically benefit him. It should be noted that Morell left the CIA in 2013 (despite remaining very tightly connected to it), while Clapper was Obama’s DNI until January 20 of this year.

Officially, the Senate is still conducting an inquiry into Trump’s possible ties to Russia, and an article in Buzzfeed observed, “There’s a tangible frustration over what one official called ‘wildly inflated’ expectations surrounding the panel’s fledgling investigation… Several committee sources grudgingly say, it feels as though the investigation will be seen as a sham if the Senate doesn’t find a silver bullet connecting Trump and Russian intelligence operatives.”

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Mar 29, 2017 17:04:17   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
JediKnight wrote:
I think when the original investigation into Trump's dealings with Putin began in July of 2016, that set the "spying" wheels into motion.
To go on national television, and request Russia to "hack into our election" was a very huge mistake, even if he now claims it was "just a joke," that doesn't matter. He further shot himself in the foot by making all the cozy comments about "what a great leader Putin is...." I am pretty certain that if any of the spying was "illegal" we would definitely know by now, don't you think? What many people are overlooking is; it is a duty of our government to ensure that our politicians are not making shady deals with foreigners or foreign governments that may profit the politician while presenting possible harm to our country. Trump has a LOT of explaining to do about his deals in foreign countries - not just Russia. When he accepted the nomination, he automatically accepted that there would be extensive vetting and background checks. That's one of the reasons the past presidents ALL divested their personal businesses while in office - so as NOT to have those conflicts of interests. Since Trump refused to do so, he opened the door to be investigated. The very nature of "investigation" implies that "we won't tell you HOW we got the information until we are ready to do so, and if your answers do not line up with what was found....then, it sucks to be you. Trump is simply experiencing the old adage: "As a man soweth, that shall he also surely reap." If he had nothing to hide, this would not bother him and he would release his tax returns.
I think when the original investigation into Trump... (show quote)


Trump made the joke that he hoped Russia, if they have them, would release the missing Clinton emails. I think you have misquoted.

Saying a foreign leader is a good leader has nothing provocative about it. A great many admire Putin's leadership.

As far as his business dealings are concerned, I'm not sure he is required to divulge all of that nor even to release his tax returns. Recent tradition is not law.

I heard that when Putin found out Trump was being accused of getting help with the election from Putin and Russia, Putin denied anything of the sort and suggested he, himself might need to fire someone for not telling him that Trump needed any help to begin with. LOL!

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Mar 29, 2017 22:01:50   #
debeda
 
it's amazing to me how the ant farms and the ant farm based media keeps hammering away at our duly elected president. its also amazing that no one talks about one of the largest factors in the democrats losing across the country was a resounding repudiation of Obama and his "legacy". it's going to take our country 20 years to recover from Clinton's NAFTA and freewheeling economic policies and Obama's bizarre social policies.

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Mar 29, 2017 22:24:02   #
missinglink Loc: Tralfamadore
 
debeda wrote:
it's amazing to me how the ant farms and the ant farm based media keeps hammering away at our duly elected president. its also amazing that no one talks about one of the largest factors in the democrats losing across the country was a resounding repudiation of Obama and his "legacy". it's going to take our country 20 years to recover from Clinton's NAFTA and freewheeling economic policies and Obama's bizarre social policies.


Thats a good start debeda. Welcome aboard .

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Mar 30, 2017 05:55:09   #
rebob14
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
full, I notice that your source, The Horn News id quoted by other posters on OPP. I am not familiar with this news source. I assume it is a conservative news source. I trust several sources, the FBI, The NY Times, the Washington Post, and CNN. According to them, there is a real possibility of collusion between Trump's transition team and Putin's Russia. The evidence released so far is circumstantial, but compelling. I will not make up my mind until all evidence is out. I suggest that you do the same.
full, I notice that your source, The Horn News id ... (show quote)


There is no resolution possible in this incredible media drama..........all is theater and differing opinions are based on predetermined positions using the same "facts". As a citizenry, we are frivolous and irrelevant and are the very reason our "experiment" in self rule is an utter failure. The same class of people who have ruled every society in history are firmly in control of this one!! """These are the days of our lives""".

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Mar 30, 2017 09:49:45   #
BDOG
 
Ten bucks says they find her in a ditch somewhere before it's said and done.

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Mar 30, 2017 09:53:25   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
There seems to be a lot of them coming out of the woodwork here on OPP lately.


New names that's all...,

Can't come back all embarrassed by the garbage they put out before~~so now they hide.. lolololll

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Mar 30, 2017 09:57:22   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
BDOG wrote:
Ten bucks says they find her in a ditch somewhere before it's said and done.


Wouldn't be a surprise now would it......

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Mar 30, 2017 11:11:18   #
JediKnight
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Trump made the joke that he hoped Russia, if they have them, would release the missing Clinton emails. I think you have misquoted.

Saying a foreign leader is a good leader has nothing provocative about it. A great many admire Putin's leadership.

As far as his business dealings are concerned, I'm not sure he is required to divulge all of that nor even to release his tax returns. Recent tradition is not law.

I heard that when Putin found out Trump was being accused of getting help with the election from Putin and Russia, Putin denied anything of the sort and suggested he, himself might need to fire someone for not telling him that Trump needed any help to begin with. LOL!
Trump made the joke that he hoped Russia, if they ... (show quote)


//I clearly recall Trump stating during one of the rallies "Russia....can you hear me?...I wish you would hack the election and release the 30,000 missing emails..." That is clearly a "call for action" - joke or not. //Ethical standards are best met when presidents divulge their business dealings to ensure that there are NO conflicts of interests related to said businesses. The releasing of the tax returns is just a tradition - not a law - but releasing them voluntarily prevents a lot of speculation about what MAY BE conflicts of interest. Considering all the investigations - warranted or not at this point -disclosing his tax returns could possibly silence millions who now believe that he is hiding something - largely due to the fact that he promised to release his returns if he won -and still refuses to do so, even in light of these ongoing investigations. As I have said before, "if he has nothing to hide, it seems he could shut a lot of people up by doing so, rather than continue fueling the fire of speculation.// Final thought: I think all things considered, a bi-partisan investigation into the EC may be warranted. Why did the EC fail to execute the only 2 tenets they are charged with regarding presidential elections? 1) to appoint the winner of the popular vote, and 2) select the best qualified candidate based on education, experience, and character? Trump loses hands down on both. Sadly, it has been proven many times over that "people can be bought for the right price." It seems it would be a lot easier and more efficient to bribe or blackmail EC voters than trying to rig voting machines or computer tally systems. Bottom line: it will be better for the country to resolve these "patriotic" issues sooner than later.

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Mar 30, 2017 11:17:36   #
Big Bass
 
debeda wrote:
it's amazing to me how the ant farms and the ant farm based media keeps hammering away at our duly elected president. its also amazing that no one talks about one of the largest factors in the democrats losing across the country was a resounding repudiation of Obama and his "legacy". it's going to take our country 20 years to recover from Clinton's NAFTA and freewheeling economic policies and Obama's bizarre social policies.


If (a very big "IF") the Russians are hacking/controlling anything, I would believe it is the main-stream media. The media's insistence to blame Trump for everything is utter nonsense, and proved totally unfounded.

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Mar 30, 2017 11:20:36   #
Big Bass
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
There seems to be a lot of them coming out of the woodwork here on OPP lately.


These are alternate personae for just a few of the idiot-old-guard commies on here.

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Mar 30, 2017 11:25:19   #
missinglink Loc: Tralfamadore
 
JediKnight wrote:
//I clearly recall Trump stating during one of the rallies "Russia....can you hear me?...I wish you would hack the election and release the 30,000 missing emails..." That is clearly a "call for action" - joke or not. //Ethical standards are best met when presidents divulge their business dealings to ensure that there are NO conflicts of interests related to said businesses. The releasing of the tax returns is just a tradition - not a law - but releasing them voluntarily prevents a lot of speculation about what MAY BE conflicts of interest. Considering all the investigations - warranted or not at this point -disclosing his tax returns could possibly silence millions who now believe that he is hiding something - largely due to the fact that he promised to release his returns if he won -and still refuses to do so, even in light of these ongoing investigations. As I have said before, "if he has nothing to hide, it seems he could shut a lot of people up by doing so, rather than continue fueling the fire of speculation.// Final thought: I think all things considered, a bi-partisan investigation into the EC may be warranted. Why did the EC fail to execute the only 2 tenets they are charged with regarding presidential elections? 1) to appoint the winner of the popular vote, and 2) select the best qualified candidate based on education, experience, and character? Trump loses hands down on both. Sadly, it has been proven many times over that "people can be bought for the right price." It seems it would be a lot easier and more efficient to bribe or blackmail EC voters than trying to rig voting machines or computer tally systems. Bottom line: it will be better for the country to resolve these "patriotic" issues sooner than later.
//I clearly recall Trump stating during one of the... (show quote)


No matter how many times you tooties fruities regurgitate these made up personal opinion guidelines for your choice of candidates you can
not deny the facts that YOU LOST THE ELECTION . You nimrods continually pointing to higher intelligence levels was truly laughable at first.
Now its a broken record . You are shoeing the same dead horse ( ad nauseam ). Apparently your indoctrination was complete .
We get it so get over it already .

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Mar 30, 2017 12:42:44   #
Roseland Loc: Florida
 
lindajoy wrote:
Yes, yes, given your quoted source of reliance is it any wonder they say what you claim ?? You folllowed them in the campaign right?? What did they keep telling you?? Who is now President?? Yet, you continue to believe them.. Simply amazing.. They say what you want to hear and that makes it all up n up!!!

How about these gentlemen of the same Dem party in high level positions?? Do you believe them or are they lying too???

I've posted this elsewhere and seems a good place to follow on what you have said..The Dems know the truth but have lied so much and been exposed for such they have now boxed themselves in.. Let's also remember the leaked emails on how they were going to set Berney up with sex scandals and outside involvement rings of Socialist.. When Berney bowed out all they did was change names to Trump!

Take note of the heavy hitters from the Dems involved too~

Throughout much of the presidential campaign of Donald Trump — or at least during the latter stages, as revelation after revelation about the Democrats was dumped by WikiLeaks — there was a steady drumbeat from the media, from the team working for Hillary Clinton and others that the Trump campaign was colluding with Russia.

That is, that Russian hackers were responsible for the leaks ravaging the Democratic Party and Clinton, and WikiLeaks was merely the conduit the Russians were using to publish the information. There was even talk that the Russians were going to hack the election itself and affect the outcome.

In the end, ex-President Obama ended up denying there was any tampering with the election results by Russians, and now, finally, it appears the Democrats have all but conceded that media hype about Russian collusion with the Trump campaign isn’t backed up by even an ounce of truth.

An article on political website The Intercept by award-winning journalist Glenn Greenwald was quoted widely in the media recently wherein Greenwald stated that “key Democratic officials are clearly worried about the expectations [regarding Trump-Russia collusion] that have been purposely stoked and are now trying to tamp them down. Many of them tried to signal that the beliefs the base has been led to adopt have no basis in reason or evidence.”

Greenwald went on to call the Trump-Russia story a “fact-free conspiracy” and quoted at length globalist cheerleader Michael Morell, former acting head of the CIA for President Obama and one of the most prominent public officials to endorse Hillary Clinton for president in 2016. (Political watchers may remember Morell loudly calling for the death of aides to Vladimir Putin in an interview last August with PBS’ Charlie Rose.)

“On the question of the Trump campaign conspiring with the Russians here, there’s smoke, but there’s no fire at all,” Morell admitted, adding, “There’s no little campfire; there’s no little candle; there’s no spark. And there’s a lot of people looking for it.”

Regarding the so-called ‘Dirty Dossier’ on Trump produced by British intelligence veteran Christopher Steele that was published by Buzzfeed and CNN in December last year, Morell admitted that Steele had paid his sources, which probably meant they were compromised or exaggerated.

The dossier “doesn’t take you anywhere, I don’t think,” he frankly confessed. Of course, last August, Morell was much more accusatory toward then-candidate Trump, saying then, “In the intelligence business, we would say that Mr. Putin had recruited Mr. Trump as an unwitting agent of the Russian Federation.”

But perhaps Morell is taking a new cue from his former boss, ex-Director of National Intelligence (DNI) James Clapper, who declared on NBC’s Meet the Press that regarding Trump and Russia, “we had no evidence of such collusion.”

This statement is all the more remarkable coming from a man who’s known for prevarication if it can politically benefit him. It should be noted that Morell left the CIA in 2013 (despite remaining very tightly connected to it), while Clapper was Obama’s DNI until January 20 of this year.

Officially, the Senate is still conducting an inquiry into Trump’s possible ties to Russia, and an article in Buzzfeed observed, “There’s a tangible frustration over what one official called ‘wildly inflated’ expectations surrounding the panel’s fledgling investigation… Several committee sources grudgingly say, it feels as though the investigation will be seen as a sham if the Senate doesn’t find a silver bullet connecting Trump and Russian intelligence operatives.”
Yes, yes, given your quoted source of reliance is ... (show quote)

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Amazingly, Congress is spending so much time on that fake news about Russian and Trump collusion. A made-up cover-up to forget and hide the massive crimes of crooked Hillary Clinton on her abusive email scandals; her lucrative US Uranium deals with Russia. The Obama's NSA surveillance on Trump and his party needs to be accounted for and place the lead masters in jail. Congress needs to focus on these issues.

The whole truth is covered with manufactured lies to deceive and mislead the American people. Congress is part of President Trump's obstruction to justice.

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Mar 30, 2017 13:43:13   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
JediKnight wrote:
//I clearly recall Trump stating during one of the rallies "Russia....can you hear me?...I wish you would hack the election and release the 30,000 missing emails..." That is clearly a "call for action" - joke or not. //Ethical standards are best met when presidents divulge their business dealings to ensure that there are NO conflicts of interests related to said businesses. The releasing of the tax returns is just a tradition - not a law - but releasing them voluntarily prevents a lot of speculation about what MAY BE conflicts of interest. Considering all the investigations - warranted or not at this point -disclosing his tax returns could possibly silence millions who now believe that he is hiding something - largely due to the fact that he promised to release his returns if he won -and still refuses to do so, even in light of these ongoing investigations. As I have said before, "if he has nothing to hide, it seems he could shut a lot of people up by doing so, rather than continue fueling the fire of speculation.// Final thought: I think all things considered, a bi-partisan investigation into the EC may be warranted. Why did the EC fail to execute the only 2 tenets they are charged with regarding presidential elections? 1) to appoint the winner of the popular vote, and 2) select the best qualified candidate based on education, experience, and character? Trump loses hands down on both. Sadly, it has been proven many times over that "people can be bought for the right price." It seems it would be a lot easier and more efficient to bribe or blackmail EC voters than trying to rig voting machines or computer tally systems. Bottom line: it will be better for the country to resolve these "patriotic" issues sooner than later.
//I clearly recall Trump stating during one of the... (show quote)


He did not say what you recite, he said:
July 27, 2016: In a news conference, Trump addresses the Russian hacking scandal: “They hacked—they probably have her 33,000 emails. I hope they do,” he says. “Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing.”

As for the rest of your post, old news, positions etc, we're past all that now and need to be addressing our Nations issues not still wallowing in this self absorbed BS as if it warrants more same ole, same ole, discussion..

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