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Please, somebody explain to me what the term Comprehensive Immigration Reform means.
Mar 28, 2017 22:05:55   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
I have heard that term over and over and back 10 or 11 years ago when the Senate RINOs were trying so hard to get it passed it meant primarily, amnesty to me. Back then McCain and Grahamnesty were working so hard to pass it in the Senate. George Bush wanted it and most Democrats seemed to want it, also. Actually amnesty was a very important part of that crap and not many of us wanted it, but for the RINOs and Democrats along with illegal aliens.

Well the term came back up tonight when Tucker Carlson was interviewing a really sad liberal professor. The man said that term at least twice in two or three minutes and all of a sudden it seemed to me that he was talking about amnesty, or at least a path to amnesty for illegal aliens. My problem is that I see no reason to allow criminals to stay here and all illegals are criminals in that they have broken the immigration laws of the United States. Does comprehensive immigration reform have a different meaning than it did back in 2006?

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Mar 28, 2017 22:19:55   #
Zombiefarmer23 Loc: Bull Hills
 
oldroy wrote:
I have heard that term over and over and back 10 or 11 years ago when the Senate RINOs were trying so hard to get it passed it meant primarily, amnesty to me. Back then McCain and Grahamnesty were working so hard to pass it in the Senate. George Bush wanted it and most Democrats seemed to want it, also. Actually amnesty was a very important part of that crap and not many of us wanted it, but for the RINOs and Democrats along with illegal aliens.

Well the term came back up tonight when Tucker Carlson was interviewing a really sad liberal professor. The man said that term at least twice in two or three minutes and all of a sudden it seemed to me that he was talking about amnesty, or at least a path to amnesty for illegal aliens. My problem is that I see no reason to allow criminals to stay here and all illegals are criminals in that they have broken the immigration laws of the United States. Does comprehensive immigration reform have a different meaning than it did back in 2006?
I have heard that term over and over and back 10 o... (show quote)


It doesn't mean a Damn thing.

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Mar 28, 2017 23:52:06   #
Weaver
 
oldroy wrote:
I have heard that term over and over and back 10 or 11 years ago when the Senate RINOs were trying so hard to get it passed it meant primarily, amnesty to me. Back then McCain and Grahamnesty were working so hard to pass it in the Senate. George Bush wanted it and most Democrats seemed to want it, also. Actually amnesty was a very important part of that crap and not many of us wanted it, but for the RINOs and Democrats along with illegal aliens.

Well the term came back up tonight when Tucker Carlson was interviewing a really sad liberal professor. The man said that term at least twice in two or three minutes and all of a sudden it seemed to me that he was talking about amnesty, or at least a path to amnesty for illegal aliens. My problem is that I see no reason to allow criminals to stay here and all illegals are criminals in that they have broken the immigration laws of the
United States. Does comprehensive immigration reform have a different meaning than it did back in 2006?
I have heard that term over and over and back 10 o... (show quote)


It means open borders for all comers and granting citizenship to all who are here. And the American tax payer is suppose to support them until they get settled. Oh yes they will then have the ability to import mother, father, grandmother and other family members who would then be able to sign up for all the gov. free hand outs. Sounds pretty comprehensive to me.

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Mar 29, 2017 13:30:59   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
Weaver wrote:
It means open borders for all comers and granting citizenship to all who are here. And the American tax payer is suppose to support them until they get settled. Oh yes they will then have the ability to import mother, father, grandmother and other family members who would then be able to sign up for all the gov. free hand outs. Sounds pretty comprehensive to me.


You say that just as I have always thought of amnesty. Just remember that amnesty is one of the favorite topics of the leaders among the RINOs, McCain and Graham. It is this topic that set me off against those two men and made me call them RINOs. It was this topic that they sided with Bush about in 2006 when the House had already told them they would not accept any kind of amnesty.

I always think of Graham as Grahamnesty which some called him back then.

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Mar 31, 2017 00:52:07   #
Weaver
 
oldroy wrote:
You say that just as I have always thought of amnesty. Just remember that amnesty is one of the favorite topics of the leaders among the RINOs, McCain and Graham. It is this topic that set me off against those two men and made me call them RINOs. It was this topic that they sided with Bush about in 2006 when the House had already told them they would not accept any kind of amnesty.

I always think of Graham as Grahamnesty which some called him back then.


Oldroy when my great grandfather arrived in America he got off the ship in Texas ( The port does not exist today) west of the Colorado River mouth, he had a box ( about 14 X 18 x 6 ). It had everything that he owned in it except what he had on him. The government did not give him anything. He later married and had three children. He was a farmer. When each child got married he gave each one a payed for farm. My grandmother received a 440 acre farm. They say that we are a country of immigrants and that is true but no one gave them anything. They had to earn, by working, for what they had. Many signed on as slaves and had to work for six or seven years as slaves to pay for their trip to America. Why do these demented thinkers thing that we tax payers owe them anything. If they think that the immigrates need help let them take them into their homes instead of burdening the States, counties and communities that cannot afford them. How many school districts are maxed out because of this or the school age children of America are not receiving a good education because the schools are catering to the illegals. Check it out, the school district will not hire anything by a bilingual speaking teachers.some of the instructions are in a language the American children don't understand. I know of parents that have moved their children to another school in a different district because of this. Do this demented thinkers hate Americans and America. They must think that Americans must make the sacrifice so their political will can be accomplished. That is not freedom, that is government telling folk what they must do( Communism). Samuel Adams states something like this " If I do not want to help someone there shouldn't be anyone that could force me to help and if I want to help someone there shouldn't be anyone that could keep me from helping."

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Mar 31, 2017 01:37:15   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
Weaver wrote:
Oldroy when my great grandfather arrived in America he got off the ship in Texas ( The port does not exist today) west of the Colorado River mouth, he had a box ( about 14 X 18 x 6 ). It had everything that he owned in it except what he had on him. The government did not give him anything. He later married and had three children. He was a farmer. When each child got married he gave each one a payed for farm. My grandmother received a 440 acre farm. They say that we are a country of immigrants and that is true but no one gave them anything. They had to earn, by working, for what they had. Many signed on as slaves and had to work for six or seven years as slaves to pay for their trip to America. Why do these demented thinkers thing that we tax payers owe them anything. If they think that the immigrates need help let them take them into their homes instead of burdening the States, counties and communities that cannot afford them. How many school districts are maxed out because of this or the school age children of America are not receiving a good education because the schools are catering to the illegals. Check it out, the school district will not hire anything by a bilingual speaking teachers.some of the instructions are in a language the American children don't understand. I know of parents that have moved their children to another school in a different district because of this. Do this demented thinkers hate Americans and America. They must think that Americans must make the sacrifice so their political will can be accomplished. That is not freedom, that is government telling folk what they must do( Communism). Samuel Adams states something like this " If I do not want to help someone there shouldn't be anyone that could force me to help and if I want to help someone there shouldn't be anyone that could keep me from helping."
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You sound like you know a little bit about the Dodge City, Ks. school system. They recently built a new high school that is now mostly populated by Mexicans and Guatemalans. This costs the district so much to have ESL teachers and the school is over 80% from those two countries and as illegal as hell.

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Mar 31, 2017 01:40:57   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
Weaver wrote:
Oldroy when my great grandfather arrived in America he got off the ship in Texas ( The port does not exist today) west of the Colorado River mouth, he had a box ( about 14 X 18 x 6 ). It had everything that he owned in it except what he had on him. The government did not give him anything. He later married and had three children. He was a farmer. When each child got married he gave each one a payed for farm. My grandmother received a 440 acre farm. They say that we are a country of immigrants and that is true but no one gave them anything. They had to earn, by working, for what they had. Many signed on as slaves and had to work for six or seven years as slaves to pay for their trip to America. Why do these demented thinkers thing that we tax payers owe them anything. If they think that the immigrates need help let them take them into their homes instead of burdening the States, counties and communities that cannot afford them. How many school districts are maxed out because of this or the school age children of America are not receiving a good education because the schools are catering to the illegals. Check it out, the school district will not hire anything by a bilingual speaking teachers.some of the instructions are in a language the American children don't understand. I know of parents that have moved their children to another school in a different district because of this. Do this demented thinkers hate Americans and America. They must think that Americans must make the sacrifice so their political will can be accomplished. That is not freedom, that is government telling folk what they must do( Communism). Samuel Adams states something like this " If I do not want to help someone there shouldn't be anyone that could force me to help and if I want to help someone there shouldn't be anyone that could keep me from helping."
Oldroy when my great grandfather arrived in Americ... (show quote)


My 6 great grandfather came here from Ireland in time to take part in the Revolution. There was no United States when he got here and that makes him totally different than all those illegals we have hanging around now.

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