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Monsanto and the EPA....Perfect Together
Mar 15, 2017 06:12:19   #
ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island
 
Here are two quotes from a ZeroHedge article that discusses the "cozy" relationship between $60 Billion Monsanto and their controversial herbicide, Roundup, and the EPA, the "watchdog" government agency that is supposed to protect the public from dangerous chemical products.

"Newly unsealed court documents released earlier today seemingly reveal a startling effort on the part of both Monsanto and the EPA to work in concert to kill and/or discredit independent, albeit inconvenient, cancer research conducted by the World Health Organization's International Agency for Research on Cancer."

"And that's where Jess Rowland, the EPA's Deputy Division Director for the Office of Chemical Safety and Pollution Prevention and chair of the Agency's Cancer Assessment Review Committee, comes in to assure you that he's fully exploiting his role as the "chair of the CARC" to kill any potentially damaging research..."if I can kill this I should get a medal."

Read the full article here: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-14/court-docs-prove-monsanto-collusion-epa-kill-cancer-study-admits-cant-say-roundup-do

Organic Anyone???????

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Mar 15, 2017 09:38:41   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
ACP45 wrote:
Here are two quotes from a ZeroHedge article that discusses the "cozy" relationship between $60 Billion Monsanto and their controversial herbicide, Roundup, and the EPA, the "watchdog" government agency that is supposed to protect the public from dangerous chemical products.

"Newly unsealed court documents released earlier today seemingly reveal a startling effort on the part of both Monsanto and the EPA to work in concert to kill and/or discredit independent, albeit inconvenient, cancer research conducted by the World Health Organization's International Agency for Research on Cancer."

"And that's where Jess Rowland, the EPA's Deputy Division Director for the Office of Chemical Safety and Pollution Prevention and chair of the Agency's Cancer Assessment Review Committee, comes in to assure you that he's fully exploiting his role as the "chair of the CARC" to kill any potentially damaging research..."if I can kill this I should get a medal."

Read the full article here: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-14/court-docs-prove-monsanto-collusion-epa-kill-cancer-study-admits-cant-say-roundup-do

Organic Anyone???????
Here are two quotes from a ZeroHedge article that ... (show quote)


Ah, but the GOP contends that he EPA's sole purpose is to stifle the economy - by barring companies such as Monsanto from poisoning as many people and wild life as they please. Did you see my post about killing bees? Monsanto/Bayer sell pesticides that independent scientists have shown to kill bees, a 6 billion dollar market - putting a 32 billion dollar produce/fruit market at risk. Now, what conservative worth his/her salt, thinks protecting 6 billion dollars in sales, is a better investment than protecting 32 billion dollars in sales AND our food supply? None - unless you're a lawmaker, because the math is different for them. Monsanto/Bayer spend 100 million dollars for lobbying - farmers spend nothing......guess which market gets Gov. protection?

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Mar 15, 2017 12:37:26   #
ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island
 
lpnmajor wrote:
Ah, but the GOP contends that he EPA's sole purpos... (show quote)
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I don't see this as a GOP Vs Dem issue. Both parties are beholding to various constituencies that contribute into their campaign coffers, and or hire them on after they leave office as lobbyists, or give them jobs in hight corporate positions.

Unless and until we get serious ethics reforms and term limits, you can be assured that the interests of the American public will be a distant second to that of our political elite.

At the risk of being redundant (a previous post):

“The first and most important thing to understand about politics is this: forget Right, Left, Center, socialism, fascism, or democracy. Every government that exists — or ever existed, or ever will exist — is a kleptocracy, meaning ‘rule by thieves.’ Competing ideologies merely provide different excuses to separate the Productive Class from what they produce. If the taxpayer/voters won’t willingly fork over to end poverty, then maybe they’ll cough up to fight drugs or terrorism. Conflicting ideologies, as presently constituted, are nothing more than a cover for what’s really going on, like the colors of competing gangs.” — Author L. Neil Smith

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Mar 15, 2017 15:46:24   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
ACP45 wrote:
lpnmajor wrote:
Ah, but the GOP contends that he EPA's sole purpos... (show quote)
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I don't see this as a GOP Vs Dem issue. Both parties are beholding to various constituencies that contribute into their campaign coffers, and or hire them on after they leave office as lobbyists, or give them jobs in hight corporate positions.

Unless and until we get serious ethics reforms and term limits, you can be assured that the interests of the American public will be a distant second to that of our political elite.

At the risk of being redundant (a previous post):

“The first and most important thing to understand about politics is this: forget Right, Left, Center, socialism, fascism, or democracy. Every government that exists — or ever existed, or ever will exist — is a kleptocracy, meaning ‘rule by thieves.’ Competing ideologies merely provide different excuses to separate the Productive Class from what they produce. If the taxpayer/voters won’t willingly fork over to end poverty, then maybe they’ll cough up to fight drugs or terrorism. Conflicting ideologies, as presently constituted, are nothing more than a cover for what’s really going on, like the colors of competing gangs.” — Author L. Neil Smith
lpnmajor wrote: br Ah, but the GOP contends that h... (show quote)


I tried going at these things in a non partisan manner, as I happen to agree that both party's are corrupt, but no one wanted to hear it, sooo, I had to pick a party. I do try to disparage both party's equally, but THIS issue is different - I got an e-mail from my Senator that said that very thing, that "the goal of the EPA is to stifle the economy". I didn't make that up.

We don't need a term limit law, we just refuse to re-elect anyone and term limits are imposed, letting all prospective candidates know that no serious and EFFECTIVE campaign finance/lobbying rules ( with no wiggle room ) will equal a one term gig.

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Mar 16, 2017 12:16:17   #
boatbob2
 
I know 4 people,who used roundup,in their businesses,all 4 have died,from cancer,from the effects of these chemicals.

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Mar 17, 2017 04:41:57   #
ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island
 
We don't need a term limit law, we just refuse to re-elect anyone and term limits are imposed, letting all prospective candidates know that no serious and EFFECTIVE campaign finance/lobbying rules ( with no wiggle room ) will equal a one term gig.[/quote]
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The problem is that the American public continues to re-elect it House members at about a 95% rate, and Senators at about a 90% rate. So in theory, what you say makes sense, but in practice, the American public seems to stick with the constituent, right or wrong. Voters re-elect politicians while under indictment, or conviction for corruption charges. https://www.opensecrets.org/overview/reelect.php

4 indicted N.Y. pols win reelection - POLITICO
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This list includes American politicians at the state and local levels who have been convicted of crimes they committed in office.
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