Winona Whyner Loc: aspen, co

I don't. I find it ridiculous to comment because I am unschooled in the complicated evaluation of such a conclusion. Papers I have read (which do not make me schooled in the least) go both ways. And I agree with both. They make sense. Is and is not global warming seems right. What I find preposterous are those non-scientists arguing either side. Clueless! All political! Stupid. Boring. Totally irrelevant. Bringing a snowball to Congress to disprove "global warming" is the epitome of ignorance.

Is there man-made global warming? No idea factually. And neither do you have any idea factually. Needs to be de-politisized. "Is too, is not" is childish. Drop it! We all look ridiculous trying to be perceived as pundits way outside our area of expertise. We owe it to our grandchildren and the planet to take an honest view. Why not? Yes, of course Green Energy will gain with a nod, but a nod in the other direction will probably be more profitable. The future of earth may be at stake, as well as our children and grandkids: do we really want such an important matter to fall to political partisanship?


Climate change or not, the topic demands scrutiny, not speeches.

Loki Loc: Georgia

Proponents of anthropogenic climate change have yet to explain that if all that mean old carbon dioxide in the atmosphere causes global warming, why was there ten times as much of it during the last Ice Age? Why was it warmer 2000 years ago than it is today, and why did it cool off during the Dark Ages and Medieval times?
While there were no reliable thermometers per se 2000 years ago, there is ample evidence of crops growing in locations that for hundreds of years afterwards they would not grow because of global cooling. This was hundreds of years before the Industrial Revolution.
"Climate Change" has been going on since long before man ever made an appearance on this Earth.

Winona Whyner Loc: aspen, co

This is what I don't get, Loki. Are they telling the truth when they say every year for almost two decades each year has been warmer than the last. The polar icecaps are melting at an alarming rate. Sea levels are rising. Droughts and other severe weather patterns are increasing. Is it all BS? Is it just a matter of course?

Loki Loc: Georgia

Sea levels have stopped rising. There has been no meaningful rise in temperature on a world wide scale in ten years at least. While the polar ice cap is smaller, the Antarctic cap is larger. (Or is it the other way around?)
Cherry picking certain areas where warming has taken place and ignoring other areas where it has not is hardly credible.

As I said, there are areas where crops that once grew cannot grow now because it is too cold. Did you know the original "Global Warming brouhaha was started with a study commissioned by the UN? Did you know the scientists who did the study were allowed absolutely no say in what was actually published? Did you know there is a petition signed by about 31.000 scientists in the US alone disputing the anthropogenic origins of "climate change?"

Winona Whyner Loc: aspen, co

No, I did not. Very interesting. You seem to know something. My problem is those who do not, Liberal or Conservative, who make it ALL political. No expertise. Rarely any facts. Just finger-pointing at Oil or Green as diabolical.

Loki Loc: Georgia

As I mentioned, I know the most important thing; how to look stuff up.

Winona Whyner Loc: aspen, co

Vital! (But there is more.)

payne1000

You need only to look up at the sky on most days to know that climate change is real.
I was a professional photographer from the mid 1960s until the mid 1990s. Not once in those 30 years did a chemtrail show up in my photographs. The government has known since the 1950s that the earth was warming. I have a greenhouse so I know how the greenhouse effect works. I put a 50% shade cloth over my greenhouse in the summer to cut down the sunlight which heats up the greenhouse. Chemtrails serve the same purpose as my shade cloth. Here's a scientist who suggests using chemtrails formed by spraying sulphur in the atmosphere with airplanes. http://www.cc.com/video-clips/lv0hd2/the-colbert-report-david-keith
Most experts now say aluminum oxide is being used. My best guess is that whatever is causing the chemtrails is the result of fuel additives to the fuel used in commercial airliners.

THUNDERBOLT

Here ya go,
ThunderBolt

payne1000

Mr P-47, you forgot to include a link to the source of your alleged article from 1922.
Without a valid source, your article is extremely suspect.

THUNDERBOLT

Please read the entire story.
You may be surprised at the end naming the SOURCE.
Change your handle to PAIN99.
ThunderBolt

Big Bass

Excellent answer. Also, there is no model to prove the outrageous claims made by global warming proponents.

payne1000

Anyone can claim the Washington Post printed that article 93 years ago, but if you can't supply a copy of the article from the WaPo archives, it has no validity.

payne1000

Here's a geoengineering scientist explaining the situation 10 years ago. His temporary fix for climate change is in effect today. Just look up.
https://www.ted.com/talks/david_keith_s_surprising_ideas_on_climate_change

The problem with his fix is that the particles sprayed into the atmosphere don't stay there for long.
They rain down upon and we breathe those particles. How have your allergies been lately?
Does your nose run constantly? Do you have intestinal and respiration problems?

Big Bass

Pure fiction, Larry, pure fiction. Allergies are reactions to allergens. Hardly CO2, without which in your bloodstream you would die instantly. I have no allergies, as I try to eat a well-balanced diet WITHOUT GMOs.