GayEGO

Ah, a brainwashed Trumpster who is unable to think logically. If you had done the research you would realize Trump is the fake. Trump and his cabinet lie and deny, lie and deny, lie and deny. Nothing else to say here.

Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas

Good....so now you can STFU...no one cares about your stupid shit.

GayEGO

Oh, so you like rimming do you?

Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas

Only your mom, she pays well...such a smart liberal, yet so dumb as to NOT understand what that quote reply button is for.

Bring your A game punk, i would hate to quickly dispatch you to the OPP trash dump, where many await your arrival.

Progressive One

non-graduates work harder for the rest of their lives...........

usewillow

Hey dummy did you miss the call out of the person at the door passing out these flags? He was removed because he was a democrat doing it for pay?

Raylan Wolfe Loc: earth

And the fact remains, that the conservatives waved those flags, like the idiots they are!!!!!!!!!!!!

Idiots all!

Progressive One

Trump is wrong about the L.A. Times poll being right
It incorrectly showed him winning popular vote by surveying too many rural voters.
By David Lauter
WASHINGTON — Throughout the fall campaign, then-candidate Donald Trump and his allies loved the USC/L.A. Times “Daybreak” poll — the only major survey that consistently showed him winning.
“A couple polls got it right. I must say Los Angeles Times did a great job, shocking because, you know, they did a great job,” Trump declared in his speech Friday morning at CPAC, the annual gathering of conservative activists.
But did the poll get it right?
In the simplest terms, no, and after considerable analysis, the pollsters at USC have a good sense of why.
The Daybreak poll, like any other survey, tries to forecast the actual vote. Its final national forecast had Trump winning 47% to 44%. In reality, he lost the nationwide vote, 48% to 46%. So instead of winning by 3 percentage points, he lost by 2, which made the poll less accurate than a number of other surveys.
And yet, the poll correctly forecast who would win the presidency, and it had the correct reason. As we wrote in late August, the poll was picking up a crucial signal : Trump had great appeal to disaffected white voters, many of whom sat out the 2012 election.
As it turned out, those white voters were just numerous enough to swing a few critical states — Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Michigan — which nearly all surveys forecast Hillary Clinton winning.
So why did the USC/L.A. Times poll pick up that signal, but get the popular vote wrong?
The polling experts at USC who directed the survey have been studying that question since the election, and their analysis strongly suggests an answer: The poll sample had too high a share of rural voters.
That was an error, but in some ways a fortuitous one because it amplified the impact of precisely the voters who ended up delivering Trump’s victory in the key states.
When the pollsters initially put together the sample of voters they surveyed, they got a random sample of voters spread equally among the country’s ZIP Codes.
That’s a standard approach, but it has a potential flaw: ZIP Codes don’t all have the same population. More people crowd into the average urban ZIP Code than the average rural one. So if you draw equally from all ZIP Codes, you end up with too many rural residents represented.
Usually, that’s not a major problem. Polls are adjusted to make sure they have the right percentages of people of different ages, ethnicities, genders and so on, matching data from the census. That normally would erase any bias caused by having too many rural residents.
But 2016 wasn’t a typical year. Rural voters were distinctively more pro-Trump than those in cities and suburbs. Even the standard adjustments did not make up for the difference. Having the right share of 30- to 40-year-old white women, for example, isn’t enough if the voting preferences of rural white women differ significantly from those of urban white women, which was the case this time around.
When the pollsters looked back at their data and adjusted it to have the proper shares of urban and rural Americans, the data showed Clinton narrowly winning the popular vote, as she, in fact, did.
Rather than a consistent Trump lead, the adjusted data showed Clinton leading most of fall, but the race closing to a dead heat in the final two weeks.
david.lauter@latimes.com
Twitter: @DavidLauter

buffalo Loc: Texas

The "progressive ideology" along with its sick, failed agenda and its community organizing, mooslime sympathizing leader (obammy) is what the voters rejected in 2016.

James Walsh penned it best December 30 2016:

"Marian Wright Edelman, a leading left greis eminence, who is a friend of President Barack Obama and a mentor of Hillary Clinton, spoke at Saul Alinsky’s funeral, "Both Hillary and Barack reflect that understanding of community-organizing strategy. Both just know how to leverage power."

Saul David Alinsky (1909-1972) the founder of modern America’s community organizing has had more effect on American political policies in the 21st century via the Democratic Party and the Obama administration than any other American.

President Obama and Hillary Clinton are examples of Alinsky’s adroit ability to mainstream his ideas and rules for socialist change through political personages. Obama, and to a lesser degree Clinton, had and do have an impact on the change of America’s heritage, ethos, racial relations, and political discourse.

Alinsky cautioned that true revolutionaries do not flaunt their radicalism and they infiltrate the system from within. He viewed his capture of the American political system would be a matter of time and patience and he sought to use the churches, unions, and the Democratic Party as catalysts. Obama and Clinton employed Alinsky’s techniques and refined them to meet their respective goals.

They used race and gender covertly and overtly as circumstances and times permitted.

Most unbiased observers of Alinsky agree that he patterned his tactics on those of the neo-Marxist Italian, Antonio Francesco Gramsci. Transformational infiltration, not violent revolution, was Gramsci’s doctrine. A major cornerstone of Gramsci’s concept of change was doing away with absolute values and Christian values which is one of the billionaire leftist George Soros’s positions.

Alinsky wrote that an organizer in an open society does not have any fixed truth — no absolute truth. Soros’s Open Society Foundation asserts there are no absolute truth nor moral values and it questions the U.S. Constitutional relevancy today. Soros through his various foundation organizations is also a major supporter of radical Progressive/Democratic party goals.

Obama uses Alinsky’s concepts of manipulation of churches, unions, and trusting people to camouflague an organizer’s real intentions — radical change of the American culture, heritage, mores, and economic structure.

Obama and Soros meld political and financial operations for a desired end.

Obama has succeeded in part with the Alinsky paradigm for change as America is now deeply divided educationally, financially, morally, politically, racially, and socially.
Obama pushed the Affordable Care Act — Obamacare — through a Democratic Senate and House of Representatives with not one Republican vote.

As 2017 arrives, Obamacare is in the throes of self-immolation.

Obama has muddled the Mideast with military and political fiascos in Afghanistan, Egypt, Iran, Iraq, Libya, and Syria. The "red line in the sand" Obama ultimatum to Bashar al-Assad and the Syrian regime proved to be a mere vacuous statement part of Obama’s lead from behind foreign affairs strategy.


Then there is the Iran "billion dollar give away" as it is known throughout the political world. Not the art of a deal.

Russia and Iran are now the major players in the Mideast world.

Obama added more confusion with his immigration executive orders aggravating an already chaotic immigration program. Meanwhile illegal alien Hispanic gangs shoot it out with black criminal gangs in Chicago every day over control of drug distribution.

This makes Obama’s hometown the murder capital of the world.

Chicago is now just a shooting gallery.

Obama caused damage to agricultural, small businesses, mining, and forestry venues with his detrimental Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) rules and regulations.

The onerous Obama EPA rules and regulations squash coal miners, farmers, and small businesses of America — so they voted for the Republicans seeking equitable relief.

Obama decimated the military with his reduction of non-commission and company grade officer cadres and the failure to replace worn out military aircraft. The Air Force and Navy are cannibalizing parts from old planes — even some located in museums — to repair active duty planes.

The South China Sea is boiling now with the Chinese military muscle-flexing. The Spratley Islands, actually about 14 sand cays, claimed by at least five Asian countries but are now a military Chinese base.

The Chinese dredged some of the islands to make airbases and ports. Might makes right.

The coup d’etat of the Obama administration’s many mistakes was America’s December 2016 vote of "abstain" for the U.N. Israel settlements amendment. Obama dissed Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu for personal one upmanship.

But, at what cost?

Obama bragged he could have won a third term as president in a conversation with his former senior advisor, David Axelrod on Dec. 26, 2016. He omitted that he, his wife, Vice-President Biden, along with entertainment personalities campaigned mightily for Hillary Clinton.

He even preened that it would be "a personal insult" to his legacy if the black community did not forcefully support Clinton. Hillary Clinton lost."

Most of those 65M non-Trump voters are clueless, lemming moonbats. Progressive leadership has FAILED! Look at Detroit, Baltimore, Chicongo....

Danald Trump is AMERICA'S middle finger to the corporate media monkeys, hollywierd snobs, moonbat leadership ansd every one else that hates America.

working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina

Speaking of lemmings and moonbats....you do know that Mr. Trump is now President, right? So you are still fighting the last war aren't you? Why else would you be bringing up Alinsky? Get with the times, man, your guy won. We get to take potshots at him, now. You get to defend him on important issues, like the size of his inauguration crowds or his largest electoral victory since Reagan.

Oh wait....no wonder your still stuck on Obama.

buffalo Loc: Texas

Thank God and the Founding Fathers for the Electoral College! Idiot moonbats do not and cannot understand their wisdom.

working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina

Here's another map to compare with the 'Clinton Archipelago':

http://www.visualcapitalist.com/this-stunning-3d-map-shows-u-s-economic-contribution-by-city/

Loki Loc: Georgia

You hide behind your fake education, and fake accomplishments as if somehow they validate your own bigotry and racism. So sorry about your boy Obama. Not. You leftists don't have much bottom, as I said earlier. You posture and swagger while you think you're winning, and act like spoiled little bitches with PMS when you don't get your way.
Professor Pendejo.

Progressive One

Okay....your opinion......you're entitled to it.......regardless of what I have explained to the contrary, regardless of what I was responding to in kind............

Worried for our children Loc: Massachusetts

You're welcome for the advice, this time no charge, lol. I accept your opinion that it may be overstated, but I disagree at the same time. The losses in November are part of a sharp and unprecedented decline for the party at the state level. Since Obama took office eight years ago, Democrats have lost over 800 seats in state legislatures. For the first time in history, they do not control a single legislative chamber in the South. Overall, the party is now at its weakest point at the state level since 1920. That's just a fact. And if the party trends more to the left, it's all but guaranteed the party will go the way of the dinosaurs. Again, evidenced by those severe losses since 2010. Another barometer is just how out of touch with the party base, and reality, the leaders (Schumer) & (Pelosi) are. I don't see things turning around for the party anytime soon, in fact, I think it's going to be decades. Also, I think you're understating your party's position, they're not on the ground level, they're in the basement, so you have that much more to climb.



Many of those 65 million, didn't pull the handle for Hillary either, and many have also fled the D party to the R party, so I don't think it will be difficult to reach them, and pretty sure they don't feel alienated, just couldn't hold their noses and vote Trump, and I get that, but Trump isn't going to be around forever, though the R party will, and in power for a long time to come, which is an attractive prospect because everyone loves a winning team. As an aside to this, it's also important to note that more faithless state electors shunned Hillary, than those that shunned Trump. It's important because it is indicative of party direction.




Well that's one heck of a comparison. That line of thought is exactly how the D party has gotten into their current mess in the first place. Guess we'll see, but in the meantime I'll be opening a chicken farm. 👍

WCS... I just want to leave you this side note.

Thank you for a well reasoned and articulated reply. You are light years ahead of most members of your party. You're polite, thoughtful, as well as thought provoking, a pleasure to discuss topics with, I hope many here will follow your lead. Your two cents is worth a hundred times its weight in gold. Just trying to say I appreciate your presence here on this forum; thank you. 👍👍