God is Energy (Page 25): You are being manipulative to the 9th degree. Your self-importance shreiks from the page. I have never bullied or abused anyone in my life, nor will I start to...

Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...

You are being manipulative to the 9th degree.

Your self-importance shreiks from the page.

I have never bullied or abused anyone in my life, nor will I start to satisfy you.

You are projecting. Look to thine own self.

tradexpertbuysell wrote:

You have a bad habits of presuming and bullying others.

Just one piece of advice ..

Pray quit while you're ahead(?)...

I'm out of here.

Sue,

I apologise personally to you for the abuse you have received from the above captioned commentator.

I may have disagreed with you myself but I don't back or support any of the above persons claims although I made that mistake in the very recent past!

susanblange Loc: USA

tradexpertbuysell wrote:

Sue,

You and Morgan are top notch and I already knew much of which you say here is true if not all true.

What did you think about the rest of the article?

I am familiar with much of Jewish theology about Satan. My personal beliefs are a little Christian and a little Jewish. Satan (Adam) is the only person who will rot forever in Hell. That is because there is no end to his abuse and he's a sadist, he takes great delight in human suffering. The Messiah is victim, witness, prosecutor, judge, jury, and executioner. He will do to Satan what he did to the Messiah. "An eye for an eye....Burning for burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe". Exodus 21:24-25. A lot of people may consider this cruel and unusual punishment, but Satan has brought it upon himself. He will also experience that pain and torture throughout eternity.

Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...

Morgan wrote:

If this was your intention...the shame is on you sir...

I have no intentions toward anyone on this forum.

The poster declared himself to be shocked.

After taking it upon himself to speak on my behave to others, he expressed shock that I speak for myself, which is, after all, the purpose of a forum.

Delegating shame to fellow posters? Presumptuous.

susanblange Loc: USA

Morgan wrote:

With your last quote 44:18 My question would be why? Answer this for me if you can.Why would God shut the very eyes that should be opened,and why would he close anyone's heart so that they cannot understand.

For me these are not the teaching of God or Jesus.

Jesus spoke in parables because he did not want to be understood, he is the author of confusion. When the true Messiah comes, the scriptures will be fulfilled and we will all understand them. Deafness and blindness are spiritual conditions. When the Messiah comes, the righteous will see out of darkness and hear the words of the book. The wicked will continue to believe in Jesus. They erroneously believe that is the only way into Heaven.

susanblange Loc: USA

tradexpertbuysell wrote:

On the lighter side God has a sense of humor.

The Hebrew for "Where?" Is pronounced ...Ai

The Hebrew for "hid" is pronounced also ...AI

So in the garden of Eden after eating God comes along and asks

"AI?!!" (Where art thou?)

Adam answers "AI..." (We're hiding)

Though you might like that one.

Adam tried to hide his sin, whereas Eve confessed it. Job 31:33 "If I covered my transgressions as Adam, by hiding my iniquity in my bosom..." He actually believes he is smarter than God and he thinks he can break scripture and win. He refuses to repent and may believe he is going to Heaven because he was there before.

tradexpertbuysell

susanblange wrote:

Adam tried to hide his sin, whereas Eve confessed it. Job 31:33 "If I covered my transgressions as Adam, by hiding my iniquity in my bosom..." He actually believes he is smarter than God and he thinks he can break scripture and win. He refuses to repent and may believe he is going to Heaven because he was there before.

Why did Adam also eat of the forbidden fruit?

What would be the significance of that?

Morgan

tradexpertbuysell wrote:

Morgan,

FYI

It's Ma'am not Sir

I made that mistake untentionally the first time I addressed her also!

Best regards,

Dave

Thank you Dave for the correction

tradexpertbuysell

Morgan wrote:

Thank you Dave for the correction

No problem and thanks for edifying on behalf of me recently.

Your brother in Christ,

Dave

Morgan

susanblange wrote:

Jesus spoke in parables because he did not want to be understood, he is the author of confusion. When the true Messiah comes, the scriptures will be fulfilled and we will all understand them. Deafness and blindness are spiritual conditions. When the Messiah comes, the righteous will see out of darkness and hear the words of the book. The wicked will continue to believe in Jesus. They erroneously believe that is the only way into Heaven.

I'm sorry but things like that I don't buy...he didn't want to be understood?... come on now, no I don't think so, that's simply illogical. It's due from the collections of the writing's from men, which are not in sync.

Now you're saying the wicked continue to believe in Jesus, that may be true to a small degree but not in general, that's quite the misguided statement, one stated in my mind, in the strong belief of a misconception.

The fanatical religious always believe their way, is only one way to heaven....

Morgan

Zemirah wrote:

I have no intentions toward anyone on this forum.

The poster declared himself to be shocked.

After taking it upon himself to speak on my behave to others, he expressed shock that I speak for myself, which is, after all, the purpose of a forum.

Delegating shame to fellow posters? Presumptuous.

NOT when your reply is "excellent" that speaks for itself

tradexpertbuysell

Morgan wrote:

I'm sorry but things like that I don't buy...he di... (show quote)

Author of confusion or just trying to get his audience to a deeper level by challenging with parables that once understood or grasped were no longer confusing?

If what I've read in that article is true; then God would use an obstacle, roadblock etc., not to mislead or confuse; but rather to challenge in order to instruct, correct or teach.

tradexpertbuysell

Morgan wrote:

NOT when your reply is "excellent" that speaks for itself

Amen!

Morgan

tradexpertbuysell wrote:

Author of confusion or just trying to get his audience to a deeper level by challenging with parables that once understood or grasped were no longer confusing?

If what I've read in that article is true; then God would use an obstacle, roadblock etc., not to mislead or confuse; but rather to challenge in order to instruct, correct or teach.

I was about to comment on your link you had posted, and I agree with that "our conscience" battles good and evil everyday right... we see one on one shoulder whispering into our ear and the other whispering the no-no's. Yes we have to make the good choice every time, and no we don't every time, that is part of our human nature,to try and succeed to fall and try again. Thank God

he understands that. But I don't think we are judged by our fall, I that we are judged by realizing it and getting back up and trying to do right.

Being brought up Catholic yet marrying a Jew has been an wonderful eye opening experience, and has taught me to value another faith other than the one I was raised with. It is a beautiful religion and in "many ways" I favor over(or am more aligned with) Christianity. I did realize this before the article I read, from my husband. It was a good article I hope others will read.

This is what I was talking about with, your openness to consider other concepts, the old Christian NT,traditional Satin verses the OT Jewish version, am I wrong?

tradexpertbuysell

Morgan wrote:

I was about to comment on your link you had posted... (show quote)

Wow my friend. We are grafted into the tree of Jehovah the Jew first the Christian last: At least I think that's how it works.

Also is it the Jew that justifies the Christian or visa versa?

My head is spinning but I love everything about this discussion for it is taking me outside of the box and challenging me to really pay attention to detail!

Thank you!!

And God bless you

Morgan

tradexpertbuysell wrote:

Wow my friend. We are grafted into the tree of Jehovah the Jew first the Christian last: At least I think that's how it works.

Also is it the Jew that justifies the Christian or visa versa?

My head is spinning but I love everything about this discussion for it is taking me outside of the box and challenging me to really pay attention to detail!

Thank you!!

And God bless you

Thank you ~I enjoy being outside of the box, it's home

you have a good night, blessings...M