One Political Plaza - Home of politics
Home Active Topics Newest Pictures Search Login Register
Main
God is Energy
Page <<first <prev 21 of 31 next> last>>
Jan 8, 2017 10:50:48   #
susanblange Loc: USA
 
Morgan wrote:
Interesting interpretation, one has to wonder why these sick things take place in the bible, as in Eve being Adam's daughter? How is this remotely possible if by the book the first two people created were Adam and Eve...How can Eve be both? When you say their sexual act was carnal are you expressing it in a sinful manner? What knowledge does one need to have, to have a a carnal act? I never read or deciphered the serpent as part of Adam, only separate,Satin in the form of a snake.

This than is where you draw the conclusion Adam to be Satin? I have to than wonder if God created man in the image of himself why would he make Adam Satin?
Interesting interpretation, one has to wonder why ... (show quote)


The creation of Satan was a side effect of the creation of man, it was not deliberate. It was a necessary evil in the creative process. Adam was created as the antithesis of God. Exactly the same, yet totally opposite. Eve was created and taken out of Adam's side. Originally they were both called "Adam". Genesis 5:2. "Carnal knowledge" refers to sex. Human reproduction began with incest. Cain's wife was his sister. A&E had a lot of children, both sons and daughters. Genesis 5:4.

Reply
Jan 8, 2017 10:54:27   #
susanblange Loc: USA
 
Morgan wrote:
And what is his name?


Whose name? Jesus or the Messiah?

Reply
Jan 8, 2017 11:01:29   #
Morgan
 
Zemirah wrote:
The quote you are addressing is not mine.

Jesus, the Christ,who is God is spirit, and eternally coexistent with God, the Father and God, the Holy Spirit - as the Triune One God, however, He took upon Himself a temporary human body for 33 years, by being born to the virgin, Mary.

Since He arose from the grave, He has had an incorruptible resurrection body.

In addition, animals have bodies. They do NOT have souls, for God did not breath into animals a living soul. The body and soul are NOT identical or interchangeable.
The quote you are addressing is not mine. br br J... (show quote)



I find it interesting you would say the Father and God and the Holy Spirit, and not The Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.

Reply
Jan 8, 2017 11:04:26   #
Morgan
 
susanblange wrote:
The creation of Satan was a side effect of the creation of man, it was not deliberate. It was a necessary evil in the creative process. Adam was created as the antithesis of God. Exactly the same, yet totally opposite. Eve was created and taken out of Adam's side. Originally they were both called "Adam". Genesis 5:2. "Carnal knowledge" refers to sex. Human reproduction began with incest. Cain's wife was his sister. A&E had a lot of children, both sons and daughters. Genesis 5:4.
The creation of Satan was a side effect of the cre... (show quote)



You posted he was born in 1984.

Reply
Jan 8, 2017 11:13:23   #
tradexpertbuysell
 
Zemirah wrote:
You´re laboring under two false impressions:

1. I am not a man, never have been, never will be, and consequently not addressable as ¨Sir.¨

2. Since the birth of Christianity on the day of Pentecost, Salvation is through Jesus Christ, and only Jesus Christ. I recommend nothing else, nor have I ever.


Acts 2:14-42 is the sermon of the Apostle, Peter on the day of Pentecost. It is strategically important because it is the first Christian sermon ever preached, and it changed the world forever.

22 “Men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus of Nazareth, da man attested to you by God ewith fmighty works and wonders and signs that gGod did through him in your midst, as you yourselves know— 23 this Jesus,4 hdelivered up according to ithe definite plan and jforeknowledge of God, kyou crucified and killed by the hands of lawless men. 24 lGod raised him up, loosing the pangs of death, because mit was not possible for him to be held by it. 25 For David says concerning him,
n“ ‘I saw the Lord always before me,
for he is at my right hand that I may not be shaken;
26 therefore my heart was glad, and my tongue rejoiced;
my flesh also will dwell oin hope.
27 For you will not abandon my soul to Hades,
or let your Holy One see corruption.
28 You have made known to me the paths of life;
you will make me full of gladness with your presence.’

29 “Brothers, I may say to you with confidence about tthe patriarch David that he both died and was buried, and his tomb is with us to this day. 30 Being therefore a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him that he would set one of his descendants on his throne, 31 he foresaw and spoke about the resurrection of the Christ, that he was not abandoned to Hades, nor did his flesh see corruption. 32 This Jesus God raised up, band of that we all are witnesses. 33 Being therefore exalted at the right hand of God, and having received from the Father the promise of the Holy Spirit, he has poured out this that you yourselves are seeing and hearing.

In the ministry of Jesus the Bible says that Jesus came preaching. And in Luke Chapter 4, Jesus' view of His own ministry says in verse 16, "He came to Nazareth ... where He'd been brought up and as His custom was Jesus went into the synagogue on the Sabbath Day and stood up to read.

And it was delivered unto Him the book of the prophet Isaiah and when He had opened the book, He found the place where it was written, "The Spirit of the Lord is upon Me because He hath anointed Me to," what, "to preach." "To preach the gospel to the poor. He had sent Me to heal the broken-hearted. To preach deliverance to the captives and recovery of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised to preach the acceptable year of the Lord and He closed the book and gave it to the minister and sat down."

The priority of Jesus Christ repeated three times and the prophecy of Isaiah was that He came to preach. John writing many years after that looked back and said, "Jesus cried in the temple teaching and saving." Jesus boldly preached. His preaching was powerful. His preaching was urgent, but His preaching was at the same time compassionate. Preaching involves the gospel proclamation and it also involves theological instruction.
You´re laboring under two false impressions: br b... (show quote)


Nothing to disagree with here. It is written as you accurately relate.

Your ministry sounds like a righteous ministry and I am currently seeking one. Oh and sorry for calling you sir ma'am. Lol

Contact me on our private server where we can exchange more information to learn more about your services in exchange for more information on myself.

I do have one question for you now which you can either share here or in private.

The question is this:

Where do you stand on the post versus pretrib debate.

I have a friend who would like to engage more deeply with anyone who based on his study of Scripture as I am; opposed to pre trib theology who wishes to share his written conclusions with anyone who has or is the leader of a ministry as I perceive you to be one in that capacity.

He doesn't have a computer and is about my age, works as a painter and house sitter following his own personal ministry in Christ so his material I would have to mail you whether you are either pre or post yourself.

I have a hunch that he would agree with everything you have written so far. So we would both be interested in following up with you further.

Even for an old dog I feel there is much I could learn from both of you. And if we all agree to disagree but learn from each other all the merrier!

God speed,

Dave

Reply
Jan 8, 2017 11:28:48   #
Morgan
 
tradexpertbuysell wrote:
I believe you mean that so I'll take that at face value. Thanx

Sue,

If you're listening in I'd be more than honored to correspond where we can agree to disagree without pulling any punches.

Do you have an anonymous post box number that you'd be willing to share with me?

If not I'll understand and leave you alone.

You probably think that both Mike and I are only a couple of jerks, and you probably wouldn't be far off in your assessment...

Anyway give me a call if you feel like it or are up to it.

Best regards,

Dave

PS: You too Mike
I believe you mean that so I'll take that at face ... (show quote)


Can I ask why you are doing that? Why private, we are here on an open forum to discuss different thoughts, if it is an impersonal topic I'd hope we could continue to all share in the conversation.

Reply
Jan 8, 2017 11:38:01   #
Morgan
 
susanblange wrote:
The creation of Satan was a side effect of the creation of man, it was not deliberate. It was a necessary evil in the creative process. Adam was created as the antithesis of God. Exactly the same, yet totally opposite. Eve was created and taken out of Adam's side. Originally they were both called "Adam". Genesis 5:2. "Carnal knowledge" refers to sex. Human reproduction began with incest. Cain's wife was his sister. A&E had a lot of children, both sons and daughters. Genesis 5:4.
The creation of Satan was a side effect of the cre... (show quote)


Human reproduction did not "begin" with incest Adam and Eve conceived and Cain, Able and Seth were born. I'm aware of what carnal knowledge means, I was trying to see if you were attaching sin to it.

Reply
Jan 8, 2017 11:40:48   #
tradexpertbuysell
 
Morgan wrote:
Can I ask why you are doing that? Why private, we are here on an open forum to discuss different thoughts, if it is an impersonal topic I'd hope we could continue to all share in the conversation.


Because i don't like giving my name phone number and address on an open forum and I trust you wouldn't either.

Plus as I stated just prior my friend is technically homeless and doesn't have access to the internet so it would be easier for him to mail to you even if it is an anonymous post office box number.

One of his conditions is in his own words is that in writing it puts him into the Holy Spirit and for that reason is better than oral communication.

I respect his convictions there as I have learned over time that his "yesses" mean "yes" and "no's" mean "no".

Hope that makes sense to you and trusts that it does.

David

Reply
Jan 8, 2017 11:57:46   #
Morgan
 
tradexpertbuysell wrote:
A rib or a helical DNA strand.


would that be the double or triple strand?

Reply
Jan 8, 2017 12:09:03   #
Wolf counselor Loc: Heart of Texas
 
susanblange wrote:
The creation of Satan was a side effect of the creation of man, it was not deliberate. It was a necessary evil in the creative process. Adam was created as the antithesis of God. Exactly the same, yet totally opposite. Eve was created and taken out of Adam's side. Originally they were both called "Adam". Genesis 5:2. "Carnal knowledge" refers to sex. Human reproduction began with incest. Cain's wife was his sister. A&E had a lot of children, both sons and daughters. Genesis 5:4.
The creation of Satan was a side effect of the cre... (show quote)


I admit that I am ignorant in regard to Judaism and the Jewish culture.

You have shown me an interesting perspective of your people.

I've always denied being a Christian simply because I am far from being Christlike.

I've been reading the many comments that this topic has generated, and I appreciate every single opinion and viewpoint.

This is far more educational than just going to church.

Reply
Jan 8, 2017 12:33:50   #
tradexpertbuysell
 
Morgan wrote:
would that be the double or triple strand?


Lol

Double stranded as some have suggested a side profile of double stranded DNA resembles a rib cage and perhaps Moses while writing Genesis in the Holly Spirit when God showed him a portion of a double stranded helix may have interpreted the vision as a rib cage or rib...Just saying

Reply
 
 
Jan 8, 2017 12:33:56   #
Morgan
 
tradexpertbuysell wrote:
Because i don't like giving my name phone number and address on an open forum and I trust you wouldn't either.

Plus as I stated just prior my friend is technically homeless and doesn't have access to the internet so it would be easier for him to mail to you even if it is an anonymous post office box number.

One of his conditions is in his own words is that in writing it puts him into the Holy Spirit and for that reason is better than oral communication.

I respect his convictions there as I have learned over time that his "yesses" mean "yes" and "no's" mean "no".

Hope that makes sense to you and trusts that it does.

David
Because i don't like giving my name phone number a... (show quote)


I wasn't referring to your private information, if you go back you'll see I was referring to "impersonal" conversations. apologies to the misunderstanding of my post.

Reply
Jan 8, 2017 12:36:16   #
Morgan
 
Wolf counselor wrote:
I admit that I am ignorant in regard to Judaism and the Jewish culture.

You have shown me an interesting perspective of your people.

I've always denied being a Christian simply because I am far from being Christlike.

I've been reading the many comments that this topic has generated, and I appreciate every single opinion and viewpoint.

This is far more educational than just going to church.



I have to concur

Reply
Jan 8, 2017 12:44:00   #
tradexpertbuysell
 
Morgan wrote:
I wasn't referring to your private information, if you go back you'll see I was referring to "impersonal" conversations. apologies to the misunderstanding of my post.


OK and I thought you were being understandably cagey.

We then let's continue the open conversation...

My spiritual mentor and I think pre trib theology is just so much "feel good" nonsense.

As Bill O'Reilly would ask...

"What say you?"

Reply
Jan 8, 2017 12:46:56   #
Morgan
 
susanblange wrote:
The creation of Satan was a side effect of the creation of man, it was not deliberate. It was a necessary evil in the creative process. Adam was created as the antithesis of God. Exactly the same, yet totally opposite. Eve was created and taken out of Adam's side. Originally they were both called "Adam". Genesis 5:2. "Carnal knowledge" refers to sex. Human reproduction began with incest. Cain's wife was his sister. A&E had a lot of children, both sons and daughters. Genesis 5:4.
The creation of Satan was a side effect of the cre... (show quote)


This again Susan is interesting, and I welcome anyone to join in. I've never heard of the creation of Satin to be a "side effect" something as in a collateral damage. How can this be? I would assume God was in full control of things at that moment in time., Than you add it was a necessary evil. This perception is more in line with Taoism/Daoism in the theology of the yin/yang balance of everything, not only natural but also celestial.

Reply
Page <<first <prev 21 of 31 next> last>>
If you want to reply, then register here. Registration is free and your account is created instantly, so you can post right away.
Main
OnePoliticalPlaza.com - Forum
Copyright 2012-2024 IDF International Technologies, Inc.