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Jan 4, 2017 01:10:09   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
padremike wrote:
You poor girl, the truth is not in you.

Morgan wrote:
Sure it is...
Umm, this from susanblange is truth?

"Santa/Satan is called "Father Xmas", he is the father of the Messiah. They have a lot of things in common. Santa is depicted the same way Christians depict God. Long white hair and beard. They are both from the North, both fly, both are lovers of children, and both of them wear a red suit. Santa is also called Saint Nick, and Satan is called Old Nick. Santa's real name is supposed to be Kris (Kringle) and Satan's real name is Christian, or Chris for short. John Lennon's "Imagine" from Shaved Fish contributed to ending the Cold War at the end of 1983. His widow released his final album, Milk and Honey, in December 1983, three years after his assassination. There were two songs from that album that were very prophetic. "Nobody told me", and "I'm stepping out". We were created in the image of God and he is a person. When he comes to earth and ultimately to Jerusalem, he will live in the rebuilt Temple.


I reckon both of you need the services of an exorcist.

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Jan 4, 2017 06:02:10   #
Betta
 
Genesis 1 and 2 are about the regeneration of the earth after a great judgement called lucifer's flood. Not the earth's original creation. And it is the heaven and the earth. Not the heavens (plural) and the earth. The heaven and the earth were created in the beginning as the bible says.

There was a society here before Adam. It was in the dateless past or pre-Adamite. Satan was ruler of the earth. When he rebelled God destroyed the earth and every living thing with a flood. Genesis picks up with the earth's regeneration and how God's spirit "moved over the waters". The bible speaks of "the world that then was." For some reason pastors don't teach about that.


susanblange wrote:
Spirits are composed of light and heat, both of which are forms of Energy. E=mc2. When we die, we lose weight and heat. Mass, or weight, is also associated with Energy. The Energy in our bodies changes form and Spirits change from breath (inside the body), to wind (outside of the body). Spirits are eternal and the Spirit of God was present at the creation of the Heavens and the Earth. Genesis 1:2. "...And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters". God will take on a temporary body (soul) and will return to Spirit form upon his death.
Spirits are composed of light and heat, both of wh... (show quote)

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Jan 4, 2017 07:29:19   #
Morgan
 
padremike wrote:
But we will never be Spirit - we will have a resurrected body just as did Christ. Angels are Spirit, humans never become angels either. I really hope there is good fishing in the new earth that is to be heaven.


You postulate your own beliefs to others as fact, and it being the right way and only way, while that way is right for you but not necessarily for others,who are you to tell those that don't believe as you, they are wrong? It is simply a personal belief, you've done the same with me.

I completely disagree with you, we are spiritual beings, this is our soul and in thought and prayer we can connect ourselves with the spirit of God who also resides within us and out of us.

I also don't follow your interpretation of angels, I believe angels,(our guides) are all around us all the time and yes, some can be of people who have transitioned back into their spiritual world. I do believe the loved ones we have lost in this physical world are still with us spiritually, we are never alone, we are surrounded in love, by God and others.

Now you can call me crazy or find another insult if you wish, but I don't believe I've said anything in offense to you and your beliefs.

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Jan 4, 2017 07:57:34   #
Morgan
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Umm, this from susanblange is truth?

"Santa/Satan is called "Father Xmas", he is the father of the Messiah. They have a lot of things in common. Santa is depicted the same way Christians depict God. Long white hair and beard. They are both from the North, both fly, both are lovers of children, and both of them wear a red suit. Santa is also called Saint Nick, and Satan is called Old Nick. Santa's real name is supposed to be Kris (Kringle) and Satan's real name is Christian, or Chris for short. John Lennon's "Imagine" from Shaved Fish contributed to ending the Cold War at the end of 1983. His widow released his final album, Milk and Honey, in December 1983, three years after his assassination. There were two songs from that album that were very prophetic. "Nobody told me", and "I'm stepping out". We were created in the image of God and he is a person. When he comes to earth and ultimately to Jerusalem, he will live in the rebuilt Temple.


I reckon both of you need the services of an exorcist.
Umm, this from susanblange is truth? br br i &q... (show quote)


We all believe not one thing but in many, many things. I agreed with her definition of energy that was all, I consider all things and than arrive at my own conclusion, this is in the rudimentary of logic, maybe this is something you're not using?

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Jan 4, 2017 08:34:02   #
zillaorange
 
susanblange wrote:
Heaven is the opposite of Hell. Hell is a black hole. It is darkness, freezing cold, hyper-gravity and a bottomless pit. Heaven is illuminated, and it is warm. When Moses came down from Mount Horeb, the "skin of his face shone". He had a profound spiritual experience which caused his face to be lit up like a light bulb. Fire is a symbol of holiness and there is no fire in Hell. If there was fire in Hell, it would also be illuminated.


Hell is the denial of the BEATIFIC PRECENCE ! If you are really good, for lack of a better term, your reward will go beyond PRECENCE to SIGHT !!! Maybe that's the 144,000 (?)s reward ? Of course all of this is speculation on our part ! We won't know until we die, pass from this plain. when we die there may be NOTHING AT ALL !!!

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Jan 4, 2017 08:43:44   #
zillaorange
 
Mr Bombastic wrote:
God is beyond our comprehension. That's a fact. Who are you, to try to put Him in a box?


why are you putting the creator in a box ? the creator is so far beyond our ability to understand , by calling the creator Him is to put human limitations on the creator !!!

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Jan 4, 2017 08:44:27   #
susanblange Loc: USA
 
padremike wrote:
You poor girl, the Truth is not in you!


You believe Satan's lie in the Garden of Eden. You can sin against God and not keep his commandments, and you won't die. Ezekiel 13:22. "Because with lies ye have made the heart of the righteous sad, whom I have not made sad; and strengthened the hands of the wicked, that he should not return from his wicked way, by promising him life".

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Jan 4, 2017 08:47:10   #
zillaorange
 
Mr Bombastic wrote:
Susan is a perfect example of a reprobate mind. I suggest that everyone follow me in unwatching this thread. Do not give her the opportunity to spread her Satanic message. Just ignore her. Please.


fare thee well !

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Jan 4, 2017 08:52:26   #
zillaorange
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Why not? Are you a feminist?


no, too refer to the creator as "he" you've attributed humanism on a spirit being !

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Jan 4, 2017 08:55:15   #
zillaorange
 
Armageddun wrote:
Amen



you, of course know what you're saying is the 1 & only truth !!?? please provide the fact/facts you base your assumption on !!!???

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Jan 4, 2017 08:57:37   #
susanblange Loc: USA
 
Betta wrote:
Genesis 1 and 2 are about the regeneration of the earth after a great judgement called lucifer's flood. Not the earth's original creation. And it is the heaven and the earth. Not the heavens (plural) and the earth. The heaven and the earth were created in the beginning as the bible says.

There was a society here before Adam. It was in the dateless past or pre-Adamite. Satan was ruler of the earth. When he rebelled God destroyed the earth and every living thing with a flood. Genesis picks up with the earth's regeneration and how God's spirit "moved over the waters". The bible speaks of "the world that then was." For some reason pastors don't teach about that.
Genesis 1 and 2 are about the regeneration of the ... (show quote)


Satan is Adam the serpent. The serpent was part of his anatomy. His name was changed when he died and went to Heaven. In the book of Job, we find Satan in Heaven, and he is called "son of God". Adam was god's only literal, biological son. Adam went to Heaven when he died to preserve his life and he has been reincarnated as the father of the Messiah. He is the only one who could genetically bring Messiah/God into the world.

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Jan 4, 2017 08:58:19   #
zillaorange
 
Morgan wrote:
I like it... Is our soul our energy that transforms when we die, and goes on? To the well of souls?


I really don't have a clue. Guess we'll find out when we leave this plane.

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Jan 4, 2017 09:02:07   #
tradexpertbuysell
 
Betta wrote:
Genesis 1 and 2 are about the regeneration of the earth after a great judgement called lucifer's flood. Not the earth's original creation. And it is the heaven and the earth. Not the heavens (plural) and the earth. The heaven and the earth were created in the beginning as the bible says.

There was a society here before Adam. It was in the dateless past or pre-Adamite. Satan was ruler of the earth. When he rebelled God destroyed the earth and every living thing with a flood. Genesis picks up with the earth's regeneration and how God's spirit "moved over the waters". The bible speaks of "the world that then was." For some reason pastors don't teach about that.
Genesis 1 and 2 are about the regeneration of the ... (show quote)



In the original Hebrew tongue in Genesis 1:1 two out of three elements are plural although I agree with you in part.

Thank you in part because I think you are in part on to something with regard to Lucifer's rebellion and God's judgement.

But in Genesis 1:1 God (El-O-eem) is in the plural representative of the three Gods or as scholars suggest; the Trinity. The Heavens (Haw-Shaw-Maeem) is also plural in reference to the three heavens that Paul talks about in the new testiment and John also mentions in Revelation.

While earth (Haw-Retz) you are correct; is in the singular because as noted it doesn't have that "EEM" ending.

Again though, thank you for that insight, I shall ponder further your message. Because what you say does make a lot of sense; and God did make certain trees and animals in the new/old man's (IE: Adam's) presence after the original creation for Adam to witness before forming Adam's help mate (IE: Eve) who did not witness same and therefore was subsequently deceived.

Dave

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Jan 4, 2017 09:07:34   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
Morgan wrote:
Sure it is...


Be careful, Morgan, we all know that coming out in the light of day will destroy you.

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Jan 4, 2017 09:12:04   #
zillaorange
 
padremike wrote:
Be careful, Morgan, we all know that coming out in the light of day will destroy you.


"Judge not ............." !!!

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