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Jan 2, 2017 21:10:42   #
Morgan
 
Mr Bombastic wrote:
God is not energy. Energy is part of the physical universe. God is Spirit. All things, including energy, were created by Him. And since we have no idea what a spirit is, we have no way to know what God is. He exists apart from matter and energy. But He is not energy.


If you have no idea what spirit is, and no way to know what God is how do you know what it is not...? Maybe that is exactly what God is.

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Jan 2, 2017 21:44:09   #
mwdegutis Loc: Illinois
 
susanblange wrote:
You must be projecting because I do not use hard drugs...

Serious question...what do you call the psychotropic drugs that you take for your mental illness?

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Jan 2, 2017 21:45:39   #
mwdegutis Loc: Illinois
 
Morgan wrote:
If you have no idea what spirit is, and no way to know what God is how do you know what it is not...? Maybe that is exactly what God is.

God is NOT an it!

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Jan 2, 2017 22:14:29   #
Morgan
 
mwdegutis wrote:
God is NOT an it!


How do you know?

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Jan 2, 2017 22:23:15   #
Morgan
 
susanblange wrote:
God is Energy and the forces in nature. Gravitation, Electromagnetism, and the Nuclear forces. Daniel 11:38 "But in his estate shall he honor the God of forces..." Elohim is the earliest word for God, and it is a majestic plural. But there is only one God. Deuteronomy 6:4. "Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord". Energy cannot be created or destroyed, it can only change form. It is eternal. It is also everywhere at the same time, and it is omnipotent. Energy is the husband of the Messiah who is the Lord incarnate and they are one flesh. Genesis 2:24. "Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh". Isaiah 54:5-6 "For thy Maker is thine husband...For the Lord hath called thee as a woman forsaken and grieved in spirit, and a wife of youth..." Our sun/son is the source of Energy for the Universe. Psalm 19:4-5 "...in them hath he set a tabernacle for the sun. Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber..."
God is Energy and the forces in nature. Gravitatio... (show quote)


I kinda like what you had to say here susan, casting aside traditional thinking, you go girl!

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Jan 2, 2017 22:38:31   #
susanblange Loc: USA
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Y'all best read closely and take to heart Paul's message in Ephesians 6. Apparently, you have succumbed to the wiles of the devil. Old Lucifer has thoroughly corrupted your mind and turned you against Yahshua ha Massiach.


Lucifer is Satan's counterfeit messiah. The name "Lucifer" means "morning star" and that was who Jesus claimed to be. Revelation 22:16. He is spoken of in many places of the OT, one of which is Isaiah 14:12-17. Jesus made himself equal to God and Christians call themselves "prisoners", and in "captivity" and "bondage" to him. II Timothy 2:26 "And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will". You are blinded to the Truth because of your idols. The NT is the doctrine of Satan. Job 31:35-36 "...behold; my desire is, that the Almighty would answer me, and that mine adversary had written a book. Surely I would take it upon my shoulder, and bind it as a crown to me". Satan means "adversary". Revelation 2:24 "...as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of Satan..." IOW, if you adhere to the NT then you have known Satan and if you don't accept it, you have not known the depths of Satan.

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Jan 2, 2017 22:50:08   #
Mr Bombastic
 
Morgan wrote:
If you have no idea what spirit is, and no way to know what God is how do you know what it is not...? Maybe that is exactly what God is.


God is beyond our comprehension. That's a fact. Who are you, to try to put Him in a box?

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Jan 2, 2017 22:50:38   #
susanblange Loc: USA
 
mwdegutis wrote:
Serious question...what do you call the psychotropic drugs that you take for your mental illness?


The true Messiah is also mentally ill. Psalm 38:7 "For my loins are filled with a loathsome disease: and there is no soundness in my flesh". Job 30:18 "By the great force of my disease is my garment changed..." Psalm 41:8 "An evil disease, say they, cleaveth fast unto him..." The mentally ill are the chosen and you have to be a nut to believe you're divine, even if you're right.

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Jan 2, 2017 22:55:47   #
susanblange Loc: USA
 
Morgan wrote:
I kinda like what you had to say here susan, casting aside traditional thinking, you go girl!


Thank you for your approval and encouragement, Morgan. There's a lot more where that came from!

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Jan 2, 2017 23:06:14   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Morgan wrote:
If you have no idea what spirit is, and no way to know what God is how do you know what it is not...? Maybe that is exactly what God is.
They say that the only stupid question is the one you don't ask, but you have breached that rule here. There is no answer to such a stupid question.

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Jan 2, 2017 23:29:54   #
Mr Bombastic
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
They say that the only stupid question is the one you don't ask, but you have breached that rule here. There is no answer to such a stupid question.


Susan is a perfect example of a reprobate mind. I suggest that everyone follow me in unwatching this thread. Do not give her the opportunity to spread her Satanic message. Just ignore her. Please.

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Jan 3, 2017 00:05:30   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
susanblange wrote:
Lucifer is Satan's counterfeit messiah. The name "Lucifer" means "morning star" and that was who Jesus claimed to be. Revelation 22:16. He is spoken of in many places of the OT, one of which is Isaiah 14:12-17. Jesus made himself equal to God and Christians call themselves "prisoners", and in "captivity" and "bondage" to him. II Timothy 2:26 "And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will". You are blinded to the Truth because of your idols. The NT is the doctrine of Satan. Job 31:35-36 "...behold; my desire is, that the Almighty would answer me, and that mine adversary had written a book. Surely I would take it upon my shoulder, and bind it as a crown to me". Satan means "adversary". Revelation 2:24 "...as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of Satan..." IOW, if you adhere to the NT then you have known Satan and if you don't accept it, you have not known the depths of Satan.
Lucifer is Satan's counterfeit messiah. The name &... (show quote)
I swear, I've never seen the Word of God butchered and boiled in lies as horribly as you have done here. This is blasphemous psychobabble right out of Babylon. Nothing you say makes any sense, it is incoherent, incongruous, and the Bible references are completely disconnected.

I hope you can defend what you believe when your day of reckoning comes.

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Jan 3, 2017 02:18:10   #
Armageddun Loc: The show me state
 
Zemirah wrote:
What is described is blatant ancient heathenism/paganism.

God is separate and apart from His creation.

God is spirit, but He has personality. He has intelligence, wisdom and emotions. The God of the Bible is never described as an impersonal force.

The Biblical example of the Bereans makes this clear, for they are described as having noble character...

¨...they received the Word with great eagerness, examining the Scriptures daily, to see whether these things were so.¨ Acts 17:11 (IOW they practiced spiritual discernment.)

In modernity, it equates only with the New Age Religion and with Eastern Religious Mysticism, i.e., Hinduism, Buddhism - a vast syncretism (or mixing) of numerous religious and philosophical ideas. This has been going on since the creation, and is in direct opposition to the only living God. Eastern religion and mysticism moved West, while Greek philosophy and reason moved East. Today the same process continues, but on a global scale in particular with the internet.

It has some similarities to ancient Gnosticism adopting both its methods and its individual nature. Most often rejecting reason and science, New Age religion more than anything is emotional, filling in for an inner void left by a secular cultures denial of their Creator, and discontent with traditional religious beliefs caused by a rejection of the gospel of Jesus Christ.

Modern environmentalism (the Greens) could be broadly classified into New Age religion because of its treatment as a pseudo-religion and deification of Nature. This is part of the continuing process of syncretism moving toward the fulfillment of Biblical prophecy.

Madame Helena P. Blavatsky (1831-1891) co-founder of the Theosophical Society in the 19th century is considered the grandmother of the New Age movement. New Age religion is anti-science and anti-reason. It is traceable to Satan in the Garden of Eden, and the Satanic promise, ¨You will be as God,¨ for they teach progressivism, that they are each progressing toward godhood.

In today's New Age cultish language, Madame Helena P. Blavatsky became the main "channeler" for the Theosophical Society, which, within a few decades, stimulated an ever-splintering amalgam of groups and cults..." all reminiscent of the 4,000 plus year old paganism of Sumer and Akkadia in Mesopotamia.

For as Solomon said, ¨there is nothing new under the sun.¨

The New Age Movement, unlike most formal religions, has no holy text, central organization, membership, formal clergy, geographic center, dogma, creed, etc. They often use mutually exclusive definitions for some of their terms.

Daniel 11:38 describes the god of forces or more accurately the god of fortresses as the god of the anti-Christ.

The god of forces IS not the God of the Bible.
What is described is blatant ancient heathenism/pa... (show quote)


Amen


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Jan 3, 2017 05:34:21   #
QuestGirl Loc: Jayhawk Country
 
plainlogic wrote:
4 (KJV)Their line is gone out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them hath he set a tabernacle for the sun,

5(KJV)Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoiceth as a strong man to run a race.


That verse holds true for both Jesus Christ who said it, and for the sun, for without the sun, there would be no life on earth.
Everything alive owes its existence to the sun and ultimately to the Son (John 14:6).


Sounds close to Astro-theological teachings, mixing the two. It depends on your interpretation sun/son. God sent Jesus, His Son, to live the perfect life we could not and die the death our sins deserve. When we accept Jesus’ sacrifice, we claim eternal life.

That being said; from at least the Egyptian age down to the Gnostic Christians, the sun, along with the moon and other celestial bodies, was viewed as a “guide” into the afterlife. There are multiple religions from Catholicism, Christianity on thru Scientology to Muslim, each giving the receiver what he/she believes for himself/herself. But, I'll preface this, that there is only one religion that says Christ died and was resurrected. Without that resurrection there can be no after life, period.
4 (KJV)Their line is gone out through all the eart... (show quote)


...and there can be no resurrection without the Cross.

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Jan 3, 2017 05:58:04   #
tradexpertbuysell
 
It is finally starting to dawn on philosophers of science that perhaps...

God is (also) Information!

According to Stephen C. Meyer in Signature In The Cell...In the twenty first century it is no longer just MATTER and ENERGY but now MATTER, ENERGY and INFORMATION where "Biology has irrevocably entered an information age". Page 15

Euclid's Theron

"Things equal to the same thing are also equal to each other!"

A. Einstein

"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."

Edward Hitchcock in 1857 more or less published the same thing in a book entitled "Religious Truth, Illustrated From Science..." Two years before Darwin's"Origin Of The Species" was published in 1859.

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