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Dec 21, 2016 17:53:16   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Progressive One wrote:
Well...I'm not trying to shape my own f-cking reality and he is my two-time POTUS.........
He's a two timer all right, but thank God not for long now.

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Dec 21, 2016 17:55:21   #
Wolf counselor Loc: Heart of Texas
 
Progressive One wrote:
Good for you.....the stock market doubled under Obama and he is still in office....watch what happens under trump.... like it did to Lockheed............not bitter at all....NEVER...EVER.........


I will definitely be watching.

If Trump fails to deliver, I will be the first to call him out on it.

And you will always have your memories of Obammys time in history.

You stayed loyal to him so I can't fault a man for sticking to his choices.

I'm optimistic about the future but I'm prepared for anything.

My greatest trust is in Jehovah, and not whoever may be president.

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Dec 21, 2016 17:56:24   #
Progressive One
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
He's a two timer all right, but thank God not for long now.


Oh....you'll thank God he was elected......many of you have been saved by a repaired economy...examine your employment situation...........

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Dec 21, 2016 17:57:24   #
Progressive One
 
Wolf counselor wrote:
I will definitely be watching.

If Trump fails to deliver, I will be the first to call him out on it.

And you will always have your memories of Obammys time in history.

You stayed loyal to him so I can't fault a man for sticking to his choices.

I'm optimistic about the future but I'm prepared for anything.

My greatest trust is in Jehovah, and not whoever may be president.

I don't know who the fu-k Obammy is.....Jehovah....hmm...........

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Dec 21, 2016 18:01:04   #
mcmlx
 
Nickolai wrote:
By Mark Morford

More than a third of all the trees in California – more than 100 million of them, covering roughly 7.7 million acres – are dead.

But it’s OK, because the forests are largely empty anyway, given how we as a glorious human species have thoughtfully killed off half of all animals on planet Earth, all in just the past 45 years or so, because people.
It’s a statistic almost too staggering to fathom in scope and heartbreaking desolation, yet it seems to match up shockingly well with the current emotional timbre; there are hundreds of millions fewer birds than ever before in human history, desolated fish stocks, obliterated rainforests, dwindling numbers of elephants, lions, butterflies, rhinos and iguanas and leopards, on and on, everywhere and forever, all gone and most never to return. Sorry, kids.
Kids? Oh, we have plenty of those. There are, of course, many, many more babies swarming over the planet than we have healthy capacity to feed and water and sustain, on ongoing and sort of disastrous procreative commandment driven largely by the efforts of heavily Catholic and/or violently patriarchal cultural posturing, because of course babies are God’s little angels and the Lord will provide and birth control is for heathens, and who cares about all the starvation and water shortages and poverty and vicious wars over dwindling resources?
But really, why worry? The incoming Trump administration is already working hard to assure a quick and bilious doom for all. The scowling orange monster has assembled the most laughably grotesque team of the most cold-blooded demolition experts in American political history – nearly all of them rich white males with the moral compass of flesh-eating bacteria and each hell bent on undoing Obama’s legacy and/or annihilating some indispensable hunk of the U.S. government, like the Department of Energy, or NASA, or the Department of the Interior, or Treasury, or nature, science, fundamental empathy.
Let it be hereby repeated until every Trump voter hangs his head in shame, which they never will: The Trump era is going to be a shameless, leering rape of the American dream unlike few we have ever witnessed in our short history. Odds are tremendously good we will not ever fully recover. You know, just like Jesus intended.

Of course it’s true. But will it make any difference?
Even comedians are getting nervous. Hecklers are turning pro. No longer just loutish, drunken rednecks who don’t get the joke, they’re newly empowered defenders of ignorance, an army of mal-educated trolls who feel it’s their Trump-given right to stand up and grunt their illiteracy, their sexism and their racism at the screen, the stage, the performer, this hamburger, that Starbucks cup, whatever and whomever they like, to the point of violence.
All that tact and grace, intelligence and kindness that so distinguished the Obama era? Drowned like dogs in favor of the howler monkeys of panic and white male fear. Hate is oozing into American thought-stream like acid from a rusting car battery. Noam Chomsky has it exactly right; the GOP really is the most dangerous organization in the world.
Behold this misshapen snapshot, one of a thousand forthcoming: It’s Trump, surrounded by all the leaders of modern technology, the lords of Google and Apple, Microsoft and Amazon, Facebook and Tesla, et al (and of course, three members of Trump’s own insufferable family).
And there was Trump, trying his damndest to hang, to pretend he’s smart and lucid enough to actually belong in their educated, savvy, largely liberal clique, when each of them – with the exception of insufferable Trump ring-licker Peter Thiel – think the man is a tyrannical ignoramus with the mind of a frog.
Does all this ring a bit too bleak? Possibly. Surely some good news is afoot. Surely it’s mildly heartening that, say, Facebook just decided to take the epidemic of fake news seriously. Though you might also agree that it’s sort of tragic they didn’t choose to do so, oh, about two years ago, back when armies of trolls, neo-Nazis, Russian hackers and misogynistic thugs dredged up from the sewers of Gamer Gate started swarming social media and dumbing down the (older, whiter) electorate?
Perhaps you’re heartened by Michael Moore’s prediction that Trump will never actually make it to the Big Chair, or that some secret legal or constitutional mechanism buried somewhere in the fractured American Dream will suddenly kick in and block the Trump administration from gutting the nation like a hog?
We can certainly hope. Then again, if North Carolina just taught us anything, it’s that the GOP is the biggest and most shamelessly corrupt middle finger to democracy and fundamental decency we have ever witnessed. There is, quite literally, nothing they will not do to derail progress and maintain grunting white male power.
One thing is certain: It is perilously easy to become dismayed. It is wildly tempting to say all is lost and to hell with our once-semiproud country because it turns out Obama really was our last and finest hope to stave off the demons of ignorance, of climate destruction, of moral incivility and desperation. Which is to say: History will show that Obama was extraordinary for an entirely different set of reasons than we first imagined.
Is it true? Are we running out of road, far more quickly than we can calculate? Or does hope survive in strange nooks and corners and unexpectedly successful Dakota pipeline protests? Will the backlash to Trump’s intended rape of America’s moral center whiplash us into a radical new awakening? Right now, anything is possible and all bets are off and it sure as hell  would be nice if that felt far less terrifying than it is. Hang on if you dare.
By Mark Morford br br More than a third of all t... (show quote)


I'm still waiting for the punch line.

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Dec 21, 2016 18:04:00   #
Wolf counselor Loc: Heart of Texas
 
Progressive One wrote:
I don't know who the fu-k Obammy is.....Jehovah....hmm...........


You DO know what profanity is.

Do you not know of Jehovah ?

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Dec 21, 2016 18:07:23   #
Progressive One
 
Wolf counselor wrote:
You DO know what profanity is.

Do you not know of Jehovah ?


everyone knows what profanity is.....the difference is I do not empower words....they are all just sounds coming out of people's pie-hold....I know plenty of Jehovah typesust another denomination/religion.......

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Dec 21, 2016 18:15:38   #
Wolf counselor Loc: Heart of Texas
 
Progressive One wrote:
everyone knows what profanity is.....the difference is I do not empower words....they are all just sounds coming out of people's pie-hold....I know plenty of Jehovah typesust another denomination/religion.......


The truth is, professor, that you are a very profane and vulgar person.

You've proven that beyond any doubt.

It signals your anger and your contempt.

The name Jehovah does not represent any denomination, although the Jehovah's witnesses use his name more than others.

The name of Jehovah predates most all of today's denominations.

But I wouldn't expect a profane and vulgar person to know much about Jehovah.

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Dec 21, 2016 18:22:18   #
Progressive One
 
[quote=Wolf counselor]The truth is, professor, that you are a very profane and vulgar person.

You've proven that beyond any doubt.

It signals your anger and your contempt.

The name Jehovah does not represent any denomination, although the Jehovah's witnesses use his name more than others.

The name of Jehovah predates most all of today's denominations.

But I wouldn't expect a profane and vulgar person to know much about Jehovah.[/quote

Nope...not at all.....I have a very calm and reserved demeanor....you just wish unhappiness on people because that is what the right does. My philosophy is to give people what they give me but more of it and let them set the initial tone.....the angry black man is a racist ass stereotype and with my life, upbringing and success and good health.....I'm the last to be angry or ungrateful....people like you wish I was that because that is what you people always bring...negativity....but I laugh as I talk shit because you misguided types do not understand that an emotion does not always commensurate with the words used.......stop wishing for others to be unhappy.....it may consume you.........I know more than you people would ever give credit for.....I'm not conservative...I live in a diverse world and talk to people of all denominations and faiths...I've probably read more Watchtower magazines than you........

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Dec 21, 2016 18:24:38   #
Progressive One
 
and yes, I'm not the little snippy female sarcastic guy....I'm nasty with the nasty and sarcastic because people want to talk nasty and then censor the response......fk them............where I come from guys either avoid each other or duke it out...not go back and forth like divas..........

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Dec 21, 2016 18:39:23   #
MC1Auto
 
Your contempt for humanity is staggering.

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Dec 21, 2016 18:40:42   #
Wolf counselor Loc: Heart of Texas
 
Progressive One wrote:
and yes, I'm not the little snippy female sarcastic guy....I'm nasty with the nasty and sarcastic because people want to talk nasty and then censor the response......fk them............where I come from guys either avoid each other or duke it out...not go back and forth like divas..........


You're over complicating the issue.

The simple truth remains that you are a very profane and vulgar person.

It's who you are and what you choose to be.

You use us as an excuse to vent your anger and contempt but you became the bitter spirit that you are, long before you met us here on OPP.

You became the demon you are upon the very moment you learned that you were black.

But I can't blame you.

Because if I woke up and looked in the mirror to suddenly found that I was black, I would be angry and contemptible also.

Thank you Jehovah, for allowing me to be born a Caucasian.................Amen

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Dec 21, 2016 18:48:31   #
Progressive One
 
Wolf counselor wrote:
You're over complicating the issue.

The simple truth remains that you are a very profane and vulgar person.

It's who you are and what you choose to be.

You use us as an excuse to vent your anger and contempt but you became the bitter spirit that you are, long before you met us here on OPP.

You became the demon you are upon the very moment you learned that you were black.

But I can't blame you.

Because if I woke up and looked in the mirror to suddenly found that I was black, I would be angry and contemptible also.

Thank you Jehovah, for allowing me to be born a Caucasian.................Amen
You're over complicating the issue. br br The sim... (show quote)


I'm vulgar with the vulgar....not period....that is why I apologized to LindaJoy....she wasn't nasty to me......the rest of you have and that is why I try to be as nasty as admin will let me.....I know you want to believe otherwise because you do what it takes to try and view people in your fked up hateful way of doing so....but if you people wouldn't have started that shit it would have never happened......I'm black proud successful and despite what racists had in mind for people like me, I'm smarter than them....and I'm not a toadie...hence your resentment.....I don't defer to no motherfker............you'll never be able to lower my perception of being black...maybe yours is lowered from being white and not all what you wanted or felt you should have been.

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Dec 21, 2016 18:54:29   #
Progressive One
 
Wolf counselor wrote:
You're over complicating the issue.

The simple truth remains that you are a very profane and vulgar person.

It's who you are and what you choose to be.

You use us as an excuse to vent your anger and contempt but you became the bitter spirit that you are, long before you met us here on OPP.

You became the demon you are upon the very moment you learned that you were black.

But I can't blame you.

Because if I woke up and looked in the mirror to suddenly found that I was black, I would be angry and contemptible also.

Thank you Jehovah, for allowing me to be born a Caucasian.................Amen
You're over complicating the issue. br br The sim... (show quote)


I'm worried about being uneducated and broke....I can show you plenty of whites that the whiteness thing is not working too well for.......

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Dec 21, 2016 18:55:49   #
beammeupscotty Loc: 31°07'50.8"N 87°27'00.8"W
 
Nickolai wrote:
By Mark Morford

More than a third of all the trees in California – more than 100 million of them, covering roughly 7.7 million acres – are dead.

But it’s OK, because the forests are largely empty anyway, given how we as a glorious human species have thoughtfully killed off half of all animals on planet Earth, all in just the past 45 years or so, because people.
It’s a statistic almost too staggering to fathom in scope and heartbreaking desolation, yet it seems to match up shockingly well with the current emotional timbre; there are hundreds of millions fewer birds than ever before in human history, desolated fish stocks, obliterated rainforests, dwindling numbers of elephants, lions, butterflies, rhinos and iguanas and leopards, on and on, everywhere and forever, all gone and most never to return. Sorry, kids.
Kids? Oh, we have plenty of those. There are, of course, many, many more babies swarming over the planet than we have healthy capacity to feed and water and sustain, on ongoing and sort of disastrous procreative commandment driven largely by the efforts of heavily Catholic and/or violently patriarchal cultural posturing, because of course babies are God’s little angels and the Lord will provide and birth control is for heathens, and who cares about all the starvation and water shortages and poverty and vicious wars over dwindling resources?
But really, why worry? The incoming Trump administration is already working hard to assure a quick and bilious doom for all. The scowling orange monster has assembled the most laughably grotesque team of the most cold-blooded demolition experts in American political history – nearly all of them rich white males with the moral compass of flesh-eating bacteria and each hell bent on undoing Obama’s legacy and/or annihilating some indispensable hunk of the U.S. government, like the Department of Energy, or NASA, or the Department of the Interior, or Treasury, or nature, science, fundamental empathy.
Let it be hereby repeated until every Trump voter hangs his head in shame, which they never will: The Trump era is going to be a shameless, leering rape of the American dream unlike few we have ever witnessed in our short history. Odds are tremendously good we will not ever fully recover. You know, just like Jesus intended.

Of course it’s true. But will it make any difference?
Even comedians are getting nervous. Hecklers are turning pro. No longer just loutish, drunken rednecks who don’t get the joke, they’re newly empowered defenders of ignorance, an army of mal-educated trolls who feel it’s their Trump-given right to stand up and grunt their illiteracy, their sexism and their racism at the screen, the stage, the performer, this hamburger, that Starbucks cup, whatever and whomever they like, to the point of violence.
All that tact and grace, intelligence and kindness that so distinguished the Obama era? Drowned like dogs in favor of the howler monkeys of panic and white male fear. Hate is oozing into American thought-stream like acid from a rusting car battery. Noam Chomsky has it exactly right; the GOP really is the most dangerous organization in the world.
Behold this misshapen snapshot, one of a thousand forthcoming: It’s Trump, surrounded by all the leaders of modern technology, the lords of Google and Apple, Microsoft and Amazon, Facebook and Tesla, et al (and of course, three members of Trump’s own insufferable family).
And there was Trump, trying his damndest to hang, to pretend he’s smart and lucid enough to actually belong in their educated, savvy, largely liberal clique, when each of them – with the exception of insufferable Trump ring-licker Peter Thiel – think the man is a tyrannical ignoramus with the mind of a frog.
Does all this ring a bit too bleak? Possibly. Surely some good news is afoot. Surely it’s mildly heartening that, say, Facebook just decided to take the epidemic of fake news seriously. Though you might also agree that it’s sort of tragic they didn’t choose to do so, oh, about two years ago, back when armies of trolls, neo-Nazis, Russian hackers and misogynistic thugs dredged up from the sewers of Gamer Gate started swarming social media and dumbing down the (older, whiter) electorate?
Perhaps you’re heartened by Michael Moore’s prediction that Trump will never actually make it to the Big Chair, or that some secret legal or constitutional mechanism buried somewhere in the fractured American Dream will suddenly kick in and block the Trump administration from gutting the nation like a hog?
We can certainly hope. Then again, if North Carolina just taught us anything, it’s that the GOP is the biggest and most shamelessly corrupt middle finger to democracy and fundamental decency we have ever witnessed. There is, quite literally, nothing they will not do to derail progress and maintain grunting white male power.
One thing is certain: It is perilously easy to become dismayed. It is wildly tempting to say all is lost and to hell with our once-semiproud country because it turns out Obama really was our last and finest hope to stave off the demons of ignorance, of climate destruction, of moral incivility and desperation. Which is to say: History will show that Obama was extraordinary for an entirely different set of reasons than we first imagined.
Is it true? Are we running out of road, far more quickly than we can calculate? Or does hope survive in strange nooks and corners and unexpectedly successful Dakota pipeline protests? Will the backlash to Trump’s intended rape of America’s moral center whiplash us into a radical new awakening? Right now, anything is possible and all bets are off and it sure as hell  would be nice if that felt far less terrifying than it is. Hang on if you dare.
By Mark Morford br br More than a third of all t... (show quote)



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