The REAL energy of the future! (not wind or solar!) (Page 3): Oil and the money it brings from everything it touches which is everything is the great wall.Who makes out the most from a...

Cliff02

Oil and the money it brings from everything it touches which is everything is the great wall.Who makes out the most from a runaway market place ? If we do not push for change,they will not do anything but rake in the money from everything.

Constitutional libertarian Loc: St Croix National Scenic River Way

LAwrence wrote:

Behind closed doors in smoke filled rooms the so called right and left have been cooperating for a long time. Of course they are fighting in the open to see who gets to run things.

Lawrence Livermore National laboratory appears to be the only current us effort into this type if research. Nothing near the size of what the Europeans are working on.

My guess is our current admin on one side of the conversation is focused on other energy options and gov expenditures and the other side is focused on cutting overall spending that would include research and development.

If I am right and I believe I am then the focus should be on corp and Wall Street investors to see the potential.

But mike as interesting as the potential is we need to have an "all of the above" approach to the energy question. Fusion is great for electricity production but we don't live in a Back to the Future movie where personal transportation can use fusion anywhere in the foreseeable future.

We need to embrace all energy opportunities if we want to achieve not only renewable and clean but also cost effective plans for our countries energy needs.

Constitutional libertarian Loc: St Croix National Scenic River Way

slatten49 wrote:

BigMike, your passion has moved me to not only fam... (show quote)

See Lamar Alexander's ideas on the subject

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

Constitutional libertarian wrote:

See Lamar Alexander's ideas on the subject

Thanks, CL, I will. :thumbup:

OldSchool Loc: Moving to the Red State of Utah soon!

MarvinSussman wrote:

That's what the deficit hawks will tell you, but they are wrong.

Your posting has nothing to do about the thread subject, but you're bound and determined to jam your phony DINO theory down our throats. NOBODY IS INTERESTED IN YOUR JUNK ECONOMICS! Get it?

I guess you didn't do well in math and economics in school?

OldSchool Loc: Moving to the Red State of Utah soon!

MarvinSussman wrote:

Do you want to depend on deficit hawks?

Yep!

OldSchool Loc: Moving to the Red State of Utah soon!

MarvinSussman wrote:

Idiots like you vote for deficit hawks because you don't understand fiat currency and absolutely refuse to learn.

You're the idiot, pal. We just don't buy into your voodoo economic theory. get it?

ElAku

BigMike wrote:

We start by educating ourselves and everyone else we can about the possibilities for clean, abundant energy.

While we're considering commerical production of electrical power, we also need to consider remote production. Any viable and affordable system will suffice, the Muller Motor being one.

For me, I'd like to see any aforesaid "viable and affordable" alternatives, especially those that work day-or-night and not dependent on external sources. Research into these areas are well worth the investments ...

BigMike Loc: yerington nv

Constitutional libertarian wrote:

I believe your talking solar power as in heating w... (show quote)

I speak of in terms relating to heavy industrial or municipal use, and I'm not saying it's impossible, just that it takes up a heck of a lot of space.

My original post was from the Science Daily email. The sight itself contains links to many articles and has a section devoted to energy.

The greatest potential of solar is its adoption by businesses and private individuals because the space required is already being used and the wiring required is already in place.

Constitutional libertarian Loc: St Croix National Scenic River Way

BigMike wrote:

I speak of in terms relating to heavy industrial or municipal use, and I'm not saying it's impossible, just that it takes up a heck of a lot of space.

My original post was from the Science Daily email. The sight itself contains links to many articles and has a section devoted to energy.

The greatest potential of solar is its adoption by businesses and private individuals because the space required is already being used and the wiring required is already in place.

We have a couple of new people on this thread constructively adding to the list of new ideas let's try and continue the process.
:D

BigMike Loc: yerington nv

MarvinSussman wrote:

I can answer that question for you right now. Anyone with an IQ over 75 is interested in cheaper energy. The problem is time. Now is the time that the National Science Foundation is begging Congress for fusion energy funding and deficit hawks are holding it up. TODAY!!!!

http://news.sciencemag.org/2013/04/obamas-2014-science-budget-research-gets-some-help-and-hurt

Idiots like you vote for deficit hawks because you don't understand fiat currency and absolutely refuse to learn.

What's to understand? You think the Fed is doing the right thing and I don't. You think creating money out of nothing is a good thing and I don't. Who says the government has to fund this? Who says businesses can't be persuaded to foot a considerable part of research? Who says private individuals and foundations won't help fund this? Why do you have to sail into a polite conversation and start calling names? Do you really have a point to make or is disruption your point? I'll be glad to verbally duke it out with you somewhere else, but not in this thread.

silvereagle

Why not use what we have for fuel.Gasification of coal.Germany did this during WWII.This country has multi-centuries of the stuff.I don't want to hear the BS that it costs too much.It didn't cost much then why should it now.

Constitutional libertarian Loc: St Croix National Scenic River Way

Cliff02 wrote:

Oil and the money it brings from everything it touches which is everything is the great wall.Who makes out the most from a runaway market place ? If we do not push for change,they will not do anything but rake in the money from everything.

What are you yapping about? The shale oil that we are producing, no thanks to Obama is making a huge dent in unemployment in many states, reducing our dependence on other countries for our energy needs, and after processing ( adding additional value) helps us in our trade deficit. As well as tax base, infrastructure and fed debt.

And as much as the save the planet types despise all of these positives, we have through emission control technology and fuel efficiency all but solved all of our so called dirty fossil fuel opportunities.

I will not be rude, but please make sure you think for yourself before typing what someone tells you to think.

MarvinSussman

OldSchool wrote:

Your posting has nothing to do about the thread subject, but you're bound and determined to jam your phony DINO theory down our throats. NOBODY IS INTERESTED IN YOUR JUNK ECONOMICS! Get it?

I guess you didn't do well in math and economics in school?

Here is a list of other guys who didn't do well in math and economics in school:

Frank N. Newman, former Deputy Secretary of the US Treasury, recipient of the Treasurys annual Alexander Hamilton award, author of Freedom from National Debt (Two Harbors Press)

Francis X. Cavanaugh, US Treasury economist for over 30 years, author of The Truth about the National Debt: Five Myths and One Reality (Harvard Business School Press)

Warren Mosler, economist, author of Seven Deadly Frauds of Economic Policy (Oxford U. Press)

Marc Blyth, Brown U. professor of political economics and author of Austerity (Oxford U. Press)

And an internet blog:
Dr. Stephanie Kelton, Chair of the UMKC Economics Department, at NewEconomicPerspectives.org

MarvinSussman

BigMike wrote:

What's to understand? You think the Fed is doing t... (show quote)

Private industry will fund this like they funded the TVA and fission energy, the transistor, the computer, and the internet. NOT!!!