BigMike Loc: yerington nv

Globalism is simply the belief that the nation-state has become obsolete and that the world must move into a system of global governance. Clearly stated, globalists believe that national borders should be dissolved and a one-world government instituted.

Strobe Talbot, who two years later would serve as Bill Clinton's Deputy Secretary of State, in his July 20, 1992 Time magazine article, "The Birth of the Global Nation", said this: "Within the next hundred years, nationhood as we know it will be obsolete; all states will recognize a single global authority." Talbot assumed the presidency of the Brookings institute in 2002.

QUOTATIONS AND ACTIONS OF LEADERS PROMOTING GLOBALISM

Woodrow Wilson

After WWI Wilson conceived the idea of a "League of Nations." Congress realized ratifying the organization would mean surrendering American sovereignty, so the League of Nations fell by the wayside. However, globalism in America received a consolation prize with the creation of the Federal Reserve as promoted by Paul Warburg, Nelson Aldrich and others.

Franklin D. Roosevelt

In a nod to global governance, Roosevelt had the words Novus Ordo Seclorum or, New Secular (World) Order, put on our currency. Roosevelt also became a driving force behind the founding of the UN. From its inception the UN was intended to be a structure for world government.

James Warburg (Son of Paul Warburg...author of the Federal Reserve Act)

In a statement to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, February 17, 1950, Council on Foreign Relations member James Warburg had this to say: "We shall have world government whether or not you like it, by conquest or consent".

Supreme Court Justice Felix Frankfurter

In 1952 Justice Frankfurter said this concerning how Washington is governed: "The real rulers in Washington are invisible, and exercise power from behind the scenes.

Senator William Fulbright

In 1963, Fulbright, former chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, in a symposium entitled, The Elite and the Electorate - Is Government by the People Possible? stated: "The case for government by the elites is irrefutable."

Barry Goldwater

In his book With No Apologies, Goldwater wrote: The Trilateral Commission is intended to be the vehicle for multinational consolidation of the commercial and banking interests by seizing control of the political government of the United States. The Trilateral Commission represents a skillful, coordinated the four centers of power...political, monetary, intellectual and ecclesiastical. What the Trilateral Commission intends to create a world-wide economic power superior to the political governments of the nation-states involved. As managers and creators of the system they will rule the future."

Richard Gardener (CFR 1974)

"The New World Order will have to be built from the bottom up...but in the end run around national sovereignty, eroding it piece by piece will accomplish more than the old fashioned frontal assault."

George H. W. Bush

Shortly after his meeting with Gobachev and Pope John Paul II following the fall of the Berlin Wall, Bush stated: [b]"We have the opportunity to forge for ourselves and for future generations a new world order...when we are successful, and we will be, we have a real chance at this new world order in which a credible United Nations can use its peacekeeping role to fulfill the vision of its founders."[/b]

Bill Clinton

In a speech at the UN on September 22, 1992 Clinton said: [b]"The forces of global integration are a great tide, inexorably wearing away the established order of things...the United Nations must play a leading role in this effort, filling in the fault lines of the new global era. Before the century ends, we should establish a permanent international court to prosecute the most serious violations of humanitarian law"[/b]

(We now have a World Court)

Walter Cronkite

"It seems to many of us that if we are to avoid the eventual catastrophic world conflict we must strengthen the United Nations as the first step toward a world government patterned after our own government with a legislature, executive and judiciary, and police to enforce international laws and keep the peace. To do that, of course, we Americans must yield up some of our sovereignty. That would be a bitter pill. It would take a lot of faith in the new order...Today we must Federal structures on a global level...we need a system of enforceable world law...a democratic federal world government to deal with world problems."

(Taken form a speech in 1999 when Cronkite won the Norman Cousins Global Governance Award...given annually by the World Federalist Association to the person doing the most to promote world government)

David Rockefeller (Chairman of Chase Bank)

On page 405 of his Memoirs published 2002, Rockefeller wrote: "Some even believe we (Rockefeller family) are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as "internationalists" and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integral global political and economic structure...One World, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty and am proud of it."

Addressing a meeting of the Trilateral Commission, which he founded, Rockefeller said in June, 1991: We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But the world is more sophisticated and is now more prepared to march to a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto determination practiced in past centuries."

I could go on and on folks. This is what we're fighting. This is what the election was about.

jonhatfield Loc: Green Bay, WI

Thank you, BM, for this summary of the basis for the NWO "conspiracy" viewpoint. Here I thought the conspiracy story was just made up by the crazies. ha.

Not that I don't think the NWO conspiracy story line isn't a bit "crazy" interpretation of that basis, but it relates and is significant to my own "crazy" federalist interpretation of United States history and the future of civilization--except my story line goes back to the constitution of the federal government, the Federalists and Hamilton's bank plus Hamilton & Washington's effort to organize an expedition to aid the Brits against the French plus the New England secession movement...and then the Jefferson insistence on reserved rights of decision to individuals and states as addition to the consititutional division of decision powers as check & balance to federal action plus Jefferson's focus on American interests (siding with French, Louisiana purchase, expansion westward)...and then the Jacksonian "populist" revolution by radical or extremist Jeffersonians (an ironic alliance of the common people and plantationists--the plantation system being the new world version of the old world economic and social manorial system) against the then federal-government "establishment." Andrew Jackson's candidacy and election was "unprecedented" and he was regarded by the establishment as unsuitable for office politically and in personal history (dueling, irregular marriage, etc.). The result was formation of opposed Whig and Dem political parties that formally nominated President and Vice Pres. tickets. In the later 1850s the Republican Party replaced the Whig Party as proponent of federal action & programs (like the national railroad system) and disapproval of slavery on principle--resulting in secession of plantation areas, the Confederacy, and the Civil War.

Well, Mike, it's 5 a.m. and my malfunctioning computer just erased half of what I had put together the past two hours (I have difficulty in working out wording and details of my ideas). I've run out of time and won't have time to get back to the subject this year. Perhaps you can see part of where I was headed...history repeats itself. So, was the United States federal government a conspiracy? a new national order conspired toward by a club of a few snob elitists in the 1780s? Or could the Revolution and American independence and the set up of a republic not ruled by a monarch trace to a few conspirig British statesmen? There were some Brit statesmen who agreed with the basis for the revolution on principle, even if they regretted losing the colonies. (The Brits have a history of accepting secession--Ireland, the recent Scotland vote on secession, Brexit, & various Commonwealth nations and parts.)

Snob and conspiracy do not apply to the Revolution or the Constitution you and I would agree. It was, however, unique in its time and the key event leading to present-day civilization. The so-called New World Order is in fact an American idea--or at least the United Nations was specifically created by by Amerians its "capital" located in America, and mirrors our federal constitution in limited power and check and balance (5 nations with veto power).To make it more functional, a Jeffersonian amendment make-over is needed to reassure participants about limitations in action, reservation of powers to nation states .

America is home to many organizations with goals to do good--Lion's Clubs, the Masons, Veteran organizations, Chambers of Commerce, Salvation Army, Food Pantries, etc.-- and some that intend good but do bad. In the 1960s I taught in a small northern Illinois rural town with a Lion's Club--mostly only a social club but with good intentions. Most small towns have or had a community social club. Much later around 2004 I found out that the town's social club in the 1920s & 30s was KKK and the town's prominent businessmen and farmers were members. I've even seen a picture of one of the meetings with names written beside each in the picture. The "good" intention of this particular KKK was not anti-black but vigilante action against incest, window peeking, exposure to children, etc. that the law did not act against as late as the 1950s as it would today. I didn't find out about the KKK past until 40 some years later by accident and then by circumstance of 1960s conversations about some people run out of town in the distant past was able to see what was involved was different from what I would have thought if all I knew was that there had been a KKK chapter.

The "NWO conspiracy" is perhaps likewise different from what you think from the sinister New World ORDER wording without taking into consideration the intent of the club behind it and the details of the United Nations set-up and its actions so far. True, there's always the danger of too much order or regulation that stifles independent decision and innovation. The Roman Republic lasted only 200 years and the Greek democracy cities less. Then confrontation with outside forces required centralization of power and decision. The other factor in the end of the Roman Republic was economic change that eliminated the independent citizen class...which for Rome was the independent farmer class--eliminated by consolidation of land into estates and eventually becoming the manorial system with serfs through the Middle Ages (the plantation system with slaves was the version that developed in the new world). My freshman research paper in 1956 at the University of Tennessee was farm consolidation in Clarendon Township, Calhoun County, Michigan posing the question or comparison with the farm consolidation at the end of the Roman Republic eliminating the independent citizen basis of the republic, cited in Gibbon's Decline and Fall of Rome as one of the causes of the end of the republic and resulting manorial system. My professor was impressed and wanted me to revise it for publication. I didn't because the thesis was based on my coincidental awareness of details of combination of several farm ownerships or operations with my uncle's farm and my cousin and her husband's farm and awareness that most of my other relatives on both sides and their neighbors who made up the Clarendon community no longer farmed (and 60 years later Clarendon township no longer exists as a community except in memory). The Roman historical connection was also coincidental from the fact my high school in Fountain City, Tennessee, had once been an academy and thus the high school library somehow still had all umpteen volumes of Gibbons Roman history, of which I as my class's classic nerd was the only reader of all the volumes. I thought the coincidences were too uncertain limited to one townships location...and the Roman connection somewhat irrelevant since a middle class of independent business citizens existed and a large class of working citizens with near middle class status and independence through representation of their interests in employment. I had no inkling of the degree of coming mega corporate consolidation & decimation of the independent business citizen class or the marginalization of independent worker status by the feeling of distance from participation in decision making in the mega corporate world and the global economy...and now the tech economy and automation is even changing the amount and type of work & jobs. 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Certainly fewer job opportunities will be (and is) difficult politically and socially--possibly impossible and a trigger for a Middles Ages phase suspension to our civilization. That is, if the Trump "populist revolution" doesn't so divide us (like the Jacksonian populist movement did) that we split or so cancel our alliances & global status that we cannot use the UN to control Russian, Turk, Iranian, and our own "great again" programs thus requiring authoritarian govt. to avoid possible defeat in resulting confrontations & wars.

Again, Mike, I thank you for presenting the specifics of the NWO "conspiracy." Your statees\\ment that opposition to and distrust of a world government "is what the election was about" I would rate as on the mark and related to my interpretation of the Federalist (Hamiltonian) idea of a national bank and a central government active in overall decisions in the interest of the whole union without restricting decisions of the parts in their specific interests...with the Jeffersonians distrusting central government in general opposition to larger national power to decide action because outside special interests tend to determine decisions. The definite recent trend is for key nations to choose "populist" national greatness and scorn or "trump" international "political correctness" standards or ideals. This could destroy united action or could lead to action between nations to redefine international decision set-up to ensure against overreach or over-regulation in international decision and action so that nations can trust the United Nations decision-making set-up and make actual effective and workable international decisions and actions possible.

Well, that's my take on the United Nations as an effort in the American United States model. I wish the advocacy of international government you enumerated so clearly had been more open and less elitist and snobbish. The conspiratorial appearance of this behind-the-scene advocacy club's connection to the creation of the United Nations has created the believable NWO conspiracy story line that questions the intent of the global cooperative effort the UN is.

BigMike Loc: yerington nv

Concentration of power in the hands of the few, elitism and snobbishness run hand in hand. Unavoidable. Which is why the Establishment in America needs to be neutered!

I had a bunch more quotes from the political and financial elite, but like you, my computer is screwing up and I was afraid I'd have to write my post again.

Just an aside; the Bible says a "world government" (although it won't be the whole world) is coming...and that it won't be a good thing.