Brian Devon

I know. I only saw him once in person. He was filming an episode of MacMillan and Wife on the streets. He was very polite to gathering fans and signed autographs graciously. He had no Hollywood "attitude". Certainly was not effeminate in any way. I was sorry to hear about what happened to him.

Brian Devon

If you are trying to accuse me of being progressive, I plead guilty as charged. Feel better?

Ve'hoe

This coming from the leftwing side of the road who has savaged Sarah Palin, and this week the Romney's and their black grandchild,,,,,, you cannot say what you said about anger issues and ad hominem attacks, AND support the progressive left. How do you square those things and deny your own hypocrisy? Seems a dichotomy in your thinking and perception to me.
That was calm and direct,,,, I would appreciate an answer, otherwise, it would appear you are merely a partisan person who agrees, with only what agrees with them and their preconceived notions.

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Brian Devon

I did not savage Gov. Palin, nor Gov. Romney. I don't agree with their positions but I certainly harbor no ill will toward them. I truly believe people can disagree without being disagreeable. I think you have me confused with someone else. BTW, I think politicians families should be off limits for any attacks. For the most part they are usually innocent bystanders.

Ve'hoe

That is not what I said, and you know it! That limp wristed dodge is beneath you from what I have seen of you so far. Don't do that. Stay with the conversation, and just tell the truth.

It is the tactics of the progressives,,, like terror is the instrument of the islamist,,, do you disagree with it? If so how, and what do you do personally to police your side?

I was at a teaparty rally, and actually helped remove someone with a swasticka....

If you are to be a "Civil" person, then you need to stand against things like that.

I have also been to an Ann Coulter speaking engagement and watched as liberal progressives screamed and shouted at her, and threatened both her and the rest of us... but of course the police stood around "them" when we actually retired to the street to see if they wanted to back up their claims.

Progressives play very dirty, I would not associate with people who act like that, or allow them to represent me.

Ann Coulter has only one problem, she stands up and has a backbone against progressive liberalism... if you don't condemn it what makes you any different than the bullies attacking her, palin, romneys etc etc etc>

PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.

I wasn't accusing, I was stating my opinion.

Kirby

Oh, yez. I've known a few people who were truly "wonderful" next door neighbors "wonderful" to chat with. However, "wonderful" proved to be irrelevant as one turned out to be a child molester and a couple others drug dealers. As a matter of fact, this story gets repeated quite often in the news media - "wonderful" chit-chatters and neighborhood gladhanders who donate to "worthy" causes.
So, how does one decide who is truly a "good ol' boy"?
My point is that you can find any criminal class out there that can be found to have been a public persona of high standing, so because you have few homos who make nice conversation, donate a little pocket change to a worthy cause, or help an old lady change a flat tire doesn't mean squat. Anyone can put on a good face.
Justifying homosexuality in the name of "love" is producing all kinds of wonderful results. I predicted a long time ago that this lame justification for homos would pave the way for much worse and so it has as the various factions of bestiality and child sex promoters have gained a lot of ground from it. Congratulations! You opened the door to a Pandora's box. Slime and evil will never stay boxed up once given any kind of a green light or foot in the door.

Brian Devon

You are so right. Your family must be so proud of your unique insights into biology!

Ve'hoe

You know Brian, you sure take some snotty positions with people when intellectually you don't have the guts to really face questions about how and what you believe, and which peoples rights you will or wont stand up for.
It is really intellectually dishonest of you, or you lack moral courage to stand up for ALL peoples rights because of what you know YOUR side of the political aisle will do to you.

That is what I find so objectionable about the progressive fringe mentality,, it is more Nazi-istic than live and let live. And yes I have asked you, in a nice way, repeatedly whether it is live and let live or only that if you agree with me,,,,that is progressivism.

snowbear37 Loc: MA.

"Proselytizing" is exactly the problem! Gays weren't satisfied with "Don't ask, don't tell", and they weren't satisfied with allowing people to vocalize their opinion of the lifestyle. They weren't satisfied with the "I don't care what they do as long as they leave me alone" attitude. They are trying to "force" everyone to accept and agree with their opinions. That's never going to happen and as the article opines, "they have gone from being bullied to being the bullies". It's only the PC attitude that has allowed them to get as far as they have forcing laws to be made in their favor and against the majority.

clarkwv Loc: west virginia

Just wait till you find you have one in you extended family.

Brian Devon

Its not possible to stand up for all peoples rights. I will not stand up for religious bigots to have the right to crush minorities with whom they are uncomfortable. I will not defend the rights of Westboro Baptist Church, as well as Louis Farrakahn, to have the right to advocate the execution of gay people.The Supreme Court in numerous rulings has made it clear that the majority is NOT entitled to eclipse the rights of a minority, just because they are uncomfortable with them. If you and your kinsmen want to live by the laws of leviticus that is your business. If you want to impose those laws on others. That is something else. I vociferously defend my right to enjoy shrimp and crab when I am out dining, as well as drive a car on Shabbat (Hebrew for Sabbath). Civil rights are protected by the constitution under the 14th amendment. That is why the court threw out anti-miscegenation laws and sodomy laws, as well as throwing out "separate but equal" racial segregation.

18 states and D.C. have now legalized gay marriage. The "dominos" fall monthly. You need not feel so threatened (which brings up a whole other can of worms). If you don't like the idea of gay marriage, don't have one. No one is making you engage in gay behavior. Grow up! If you really are determined to live by the laws of Leviticus, I suggest you become an orthodox Jew, move to Israel, and live among the Mea Shearim in Jerusalem. Then you can spout off all you like about those that engage in behaviors not sanctioned by the holy books.

Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon

I've been called a libtard but I am no Queer. I believe in live and let live however and as long as queers stay out of my face they can go at each other all they want. My brother in-law disowned his son several years back when he found out he was gay. Now he wishes he hadn't go figure.

taijean

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rickdri

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