Was Mr. Trump set up?
Oct 9, 2016 16:37:52 #
bmac32 wrote:
Something that took place 15 years ago, do have to... (show quote)
He was boasting how is celebrity allowed him to commit sexual assault. Why does when he boasted of this make any difference. If Bill were boasting about Monica would it matter if it was 20 years ago?
And tell me, how would you wife treat they women you had affairs with? You are making idiot arguments, you really are...
Oct 9, 2016 16:48:11 #
PeterS wrote:
He was boasting how is celebrity allowed him to commit sexual assault. Why does when he boasted of this make any difference. If Bill were boasting about Monica would it matter if it was 20 years ago?
And tell me, how would you wife treat they women you had affairs with? You are making idiot arguments, you really are...
And tell me, how would you wife treat they women you had affairs with? You are making idiot arguments, you really are...
Ah, but this is Hillary the Harridan, who says that ALL women who are rape victims should be heard and believed.
(Unless, of course, the rapist is Billy Boy; in that case, it depends on what your definition of "ALL" is, much like how it depends on what your definition of "is" is. )
Oct 9, 2016 16:50:21 #
zillaorange wrote:
when was trumpt elected ?
He was elected on Thursday, July 21, 2016 after he accepted the vote tally of convention delegates to be the Republican nominee for President of the United States of America. He got there by getting 13.3 million cast votes in the primary election.
Oct 9, 2016 17:00:04 #
jasfourth401 wrote:
He was elected on Thursday, July 21, 2016 after he accepted the vote tally of convention delegates to be the Republican nominee for President of the United States of America. He got there by getting 13.3 million cast votes in the primary election.
Close, but no cigar. An elected official is an employee of the US government. As of now we are not paying his salary, ergo, he is not our employee yet, and cannot be impeached. Even if he was, he could not be impeached for an alleged offense committed as a private citizen, before he even became a candidate. That is a standard law enforcement matter.
Oct 9, 2016 17:28:13 #
slatten49
Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
Loki wrote:
Close, but no cigar. An elected official is an employee of the US government. As of now we are not paying his salary, ergo, he is not our employee yet, and cannot be impeached. Even if he was, he could not be impeached for an alleged offense committed as a private citizen, before he even became a candidate. That is a standard law enforcement matter.
I am fairly sure you did not mean to say that elected local, city, county or state officials are employees of the U.S. (federal) government. I do not believe one has to be an employee of the federal government to be impeached. Although Mr. Trump is not an elected official, he elected to be a politician once he started running for office.
Oct 9, 2016 17:42:08 #
EL
Loc: Massachusetts
edley03 wrote:
It is just another one of Hillary tricks at least he didn't rape any women and what Trump said is true some women wil do anything I am a woman and it didn't offend me
Me either, not from the soft generation.
Oct 9, 2016 17:44:17 #
cair k wrote:
I can't remember when politics weren't dirty, but not this dirty. Too much at stake here.
... for the whole world.
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Oct 9, 2016 18:04:53 #
lindajoy wrote:
And of course the filthy mouth Hillary exhibits is... (show quote)
You are preaching to the choir. The topic was what Trump said, remember?
Oct 9, 2016 18:05:28 #
Have always known better! Bill did it repeatedly and it makers little to liberals, Trump didn't carry through the actual act and liberals act like it's a crime. Chris Stevens dies now there's a crime.
PeterS wrote:
He was boasting how is celebrity allowed him to commit sexual assault. Why does when he boasted of this make any difference. If Bill were boasting about Monica would it matter if it was 20 years ago?
And tell me, how would you wife treat they women you had affairs with? You are making idiot arguments, you really are...
And tell me, how would you wife treat they women you had affairs with? You are making idiot arguments, you really are...
Oct 9, 2016 18:15:08 #
MsCentralia wrote:
You are preaching to the choir. The topic was what Trump said, remember?
No, Ms. new user. The topic is, "Was Trump Set up".
Oct 9, 2016 18:17:01 #
slatten49 wrote:
I am fairly sure you did not mean to say that elected local, city, county or state officials are employees of the U.S. (federal) government. I do not believe one has to be an employee of the federal government to be impeached. Although Mr. Trump is not an elected official, he elected to be a politician once he started running for office.
They are employed by the branch of government they work in, be it local, state or federal. Trump is not elected and even if he was, you don't impeach for offenses committed while a private citizen. Clinton was impeached because his offenses occurred while he was disgracing the presidency.
Oct 9, 2016 18:28:52 #
slatten49
Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
Loki wrote:
They are employed by the branch of government they work in, be it local, state or federal. Trump is not elected and even if he was, you don't impeach for offenses committed while a private citizen. Clinton was impeached because his offenses occurred while he was disgracing the presidency.
No disagreement here.
Oct 9, 2016 18:31:15 #
Oct 9, 2016 18:48:32 #
Boo_Boo
Loc: Jellystone
Any elected official can be impeached.... for state and local, rules vary. Here are some interesting facts... Impeachment does not automatically remove an official from office. Impeachment functions as an indictment of a public official; it allows the legislature to bring formal charges against a civil officer of government. After an official has been impeached, or formally charged, a trial is held to determine whether or not the official will be removed from office. A candidate for office is not an employee nor are they considered a public official.
Now then, even if it were possible to preimpeach Mr. Trump... what impeachable crime did he commit? According to the US Constitution, "Treason, Bribery, or other High Crimes and Misdemeanors" justify impeachment. We can rule out Treason, Bribery, or other High Crimes.... so we are left with misdemeanors. In many states to include my state, you can not cuss in public. I think Texas has a similar law. So, did Mr. Trump commit a misdemeanor... No simply because the remarks were made in a private conversation and the conversation happened in California... so, I refer you to Cohen v. California (1971)... Justice John Marshall Harlan ruled that a jacket worn into a court room with "f*&k the draft" was covered under the First Amendment Freedom of speech. Even if the dirty words were spoken in NYC, those laws defines disorderly conduct as:
fighting or engaging in other violent or threatening conduct
making an unreasonable amount of noise
using obscene or abusive language or gestures in public
disturbing a lawful assembly or meeting
blocking traffic (vehicular or pedestrian)
congregating in public and refusing a police officer’s order to disperse, or
creating an offensive or hazardous condition without good reason.
Again, notice that he would have to have made the comments in public.
And Loki is right... Indeed, in 1873 the House investigated Vice President Schuyler Colfax (Congressional Globe, February 1873, see below for ruling). The House has, in the past, stated that crimes prior to a person's holding office do not subject them to impeachment in that office.
Now Killary, if elected, could be impeached for treason.... her misuse of classified material did happen while she was a federal employee....
Now then, even if it were possible to preimpeach Mr. Trump... what impeachable crime did he commit? According to the US Constitution, "Treason, Bribery, or other High Crimes and Misdemeanors" justify impeachment. We can rule out Treason, Bribery, or other High Crimes.... so we are left with misdemeanors. In many states to include my state, you can not cuss in public. I think Texas has a similar law. So, did Mr. Trump commit a misdemeanor... No simply because the remarks were made in a private conversation and the conversation happened in California... so, I refer you to Cohen v. California (1971)... Justice John Marshall Harlan ruled that a jacket worn into a court room with "f*&k the draft" was covered under the First Amendment Freedom of speech. Even if the dirty words were spoken in NYC, those laws defines disorderly conduct as:
fighting or engaging in other violent or threatening conduct
making an unreasonable amount of noise
using obscene or abusive language or gestures in public
disturbing a lawful assembly or meeting
blocking traffic (vehicular or pedestrian)
congregating in public and refusing a police officer’s order to disperse, or
creating an offensive or hazardous condition without good reason.
Again, notice that he would have to have made the comments in public.
And Loki is right... Indeed, in 1873 the House investigated Vice President Schuyler Colfax (Congressional Globe, February 1873, see below for ruling). The House has, in the past, stated that crimes prior to a person's holding office do not subject them to impeachment in that office.
Now Killary, if elected, could be impeached for treason.... her misuse of classified material did happen while she was a federal employee....
slatten49 wrote:
I am fairly sure you did not mean to say that elected local, city, county or state officials are employees of the U.S. (federal) government. I do not believe one has to be an employee of the federal government to be impeached. Although Mr. Trump is not an elected official, he elected to be a politician once he started running for office.
Oct 9, 2016 18:56:10 #
Pennylynn wrote:
I ask this question because the timing of this is ... (show quote)
Totally ridiculous that it was a "set up." How could it be a "set up" in 2005 to "hide Clinton's latest problems" in 2016? They were quite chummy back then. Grasping at straws here. Billy Bush's plan was to wait till 2016 to blackmail Trump or undermine his campaign or sell it to the highest bidder ELEVEN YEARS after the fact? The timing of this is abundantly obvious: it is newsworthy now.
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