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Oct 8, 2016 23:40:23   #
Radiance3
 
bilordinary wrote:
Have you ever heard Obama or Hillary apologize?
I haven't. They just pile on more lies!


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Because with them in power, they are above the law. But the people are really stupid I think. There are more problems we need to solve, but those locker room jokes are always heard among the boys and adults. Ask the men!

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Oct 9, 2016 01:37:06   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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If you ask men who talk amongst themselves they talk about what Trump had just 11 years ago. Especially men young and old when talking in the locker room, they do it every time.
Trump was recorded for some reasons, but those talks are talks. It are not rape which Bill Clinton did.
Trump has apologized. All people are not perfect. We all sin. Trump must apologize further to clean it from his system. God forgives those who repent.


Yes. The left lives by a double standard. It is a symptom of their inability to promote their candidate, and of their own depravity.

Trump can get past this easily but he must drop the facade to do it. I saw a program which showed him with his grandson. That is the Trump that needs to apologize.

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Oct 9, 2016 07:39:14   #
sweetlips
 
who said i thought it was entertaining and supported it, i just wanted to say what went on all the time and it was time to talk about real issues, decent folk?????????? you need to get off the water and bring your boat to dry land.
lpnmajor wrote:
Judging by your screen name, I'm not surprised you found it entertaining and approved of it. Decent folk would not, no matter WHO they happen to support.

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Oct 9, 2016 08:14:48   #
atc333
 
Obviously, this country is changing. Talk such as you want to ignore was at one time, unacceptable. A political candidate who was divorced was unacceptable to the Christian/Evangelical Voter. A candidate who defrauded thousands of small businesses, employees, contractors, and subcontractors by being a bully, using the legal system, and litigating them into insolvency was unacceptable, and a candidate who spoke of women in the manner which Trump did, has, and apparently still thinks of women in the manner he does, as objects, possession, to be used, abused and thrown away was, and thankfully is still unacceptable.

Now, lets talk about your "issues". 20 Trillion in Federal Debt, which massive increases began with Reagan and his supply side economics, which most legitimate economists do not agree. Reagan doubled the Federal Debt. Each GOP Administration also increased the Federal Debt, although Bush I did call that failed economic theory by its correct name, "Voodoo Economics. and Bush II also doubled the Federal Debt, after Clinton with help from the now long gone moderate GOP,had balanced the Federal Budget, Bush II, immediately undid that, and again doubled the Federal Debt, but worse, the GOP also passed deregulation legislation, which went hand in hand with tax cuts for job creators, and chose to implement his own personal version of deregulation, resulting in three types, legislative deregulation, Executive Deregulation, with on the books regulation changes, and "Blind Eye" deregulation, which was ignoring the rapidly blowing up bubbles in the financial and real estate sectors. creating the Bush II Almost Second Great Depression, which, thanks to massive Federal spending, was turned into a really nasty Bush II Great Recession, costing millions of jobs the loss of millions of homes which were foreclosed by banks, and dumped into the increasing supply of fire sale home on the market, which was only made worse by
the GOP/Bush II's revision of the US Bankruptcy Code which prevented the Bankruptcy Courts from "cramming down" individual homeowners mortgages to the actual reduced value of the home, reaffirming the debt at the lower actual value of the homes, and staying in them at with the reduced monthly payments due on the reduced mortgage. which would have severely reduced the consequences of the real estate bubble, as banks could not have foreclosed their mortgagees on owner occupied homes, and those homes would not have become part of the massive unsold real estate inventory which drove down the value of homes.

So, in addition to the Federal Debt, of which the GOP created over 14 Trillion dollars plus of the existing balance by cutting taxes for the Job creators, Bush II, and the GOP in the House and Senate also substantially increased the consequences of the financial and real estate sectors during the Bush II Great Recession.

So, with the above in mind, do you really want to put Trump the Fraud into the office of the Presidency? Have you paid attention to his revised economic plan? He wants to do Reagan's tax cuts for job creators all over again, originally which would have cost the US Treasury 10 Trillion over 8 years, as well as borrow 5 Trillion for infrastructure repair and replacement, which tax cuts primarily benefited himself, and the top2%. He has since amended it, to now cost the US Treasury 5 Trillion dollars in additional lost tax revenues.

The worst part is tax cuts for job creators is a massive fraud, much like Trump himself. The Federal Debt did not begin to balloon until Reagan, Wealth redistribution did not surge until Reagan's Tax cuts for job creators.
In 1969, the top 2% owned only 8% of the total wealth of this nation. Now look at it. The top 2% now own 49% of all the wealth of this nation.

And you want to vote for Trump the Fraud, and do it all over again? Thanks, but No Thanks. He lies to all Americans 71% of the time. He can tell us the Truth only 4% of the time. That says it all.

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Oct 9, 2016 08:31:35   #
reconreb Loc: America / Inglis Fla.
 
atc333 wrote:
Obviously, this country is changing. Talk such as you want to ignore was at one time, unacceptable. A political candidate who was divorced was unacceptable to the Christian/Evangelical Voter. A candidate who defrauded thousands of small businesses, employees, contractors, and subcontractors by being a bully, using the legal system, and litigating them into insolvency was unacceptable, and a candidate who spoke of women in the manner which Trump did, has, and apparently still thinks of women in the manner he does, as objects, possession, to be used, abused and thrown away was, and thankfully is still unacceptable.

Now, lets talk about your "issues". 20 Trillion in Federal Debt, which massive increases began with Reagan and his supply side economics, which most legitimate economists do not agree. Reagan doubled the Federal Debt. Each GOP Administration also increased the Federal Debt, although Bush I did call that failed economic theory by its correct name, "Voodoo Economics. and Bush II also doubled the Federal Debt, after Clinton with help from the now long gone moderate GOP,had balanced the Federal Budget, Bush II, immediately undid that, and again doubled the Federal Debt, but worse, the GOP also passed deregulation legislation, which went hand in hand with tax cuts for job creators, and chose to implement his own personal version of deregulation, resulting in three types, legislative deregulation, Executive Deregulation, with on the books regulation changes, and "Blind Eye" deregulation, which was ignoring the rapidly blowing up bubbles in the financial and real estate sectors. creating the Bush II Almost Second Great Depression, which, thanks to massive Federal spending, was turned into a really nasty Bush II Great Recession, costing millions of jobs the loss of millions of homes which were foreclosed by banks, and dumped into the increasing supply of fire sale home on the market, which was only made worse by
the GOP/Bush II's revision of the US Bankruptcy Code which prevented the Bankruptcy Courts from "cramming down" individual homeowners mortgages to the actual reduced value of the home, reaffirming the debt at the lower actual value of the homes, and staying in them at with the reduced monthly payments due on the reduced mortgage. which would have severely reduced the consequences of the real estate bubble, as banks could not have foreclosed their mortgagees on owner occupied homes, and those homes would not have become part of the massive unsold real estate inventory which drove down the value of homes.

So, in addition to the Federal Debt, of which the GOP created over 14 Trillion dollars plus of the existing balance by cutting taxes for the Job creators, Bush II, and the GOP in the House and Senate also substantially increased the consequences of the financial and real estate sectors during the Bush II Great Recession.

So, with the above in mind, do you really want to put Trump the Fraud into the office of the Presidency? Have you paid attention to his revised economic plan? He wants to do Reagan's tax cuts for job creators all over again, originally which would have cost the US Treasury 10 Trillion over 8 years, as well as borrow 5 Trillion for infrastructure repair and replacement, which tax cuts primarily benefited himself, and the top2%. He has since amended it, to now cost the US Treasury 5 Trillion dollars in additional lost tax revenues.

The worst part is tax cuts for job creators is a massive fraud, much like Trump himself. The Federal Debt did not begin to balloon until Reagan, Wealth redistribution did not surge until Reagan's Tax cuts for job creators.
In 1969, the top 2% owned only 8% of the total wealth of this nation. Now look at it. The top 2% now own 49% of all the wealth of this nation.

And you want to vote for Trump the Fraud, and do it all over again? Thanks, but No Thanks. He lies to all Americans 71% of the time. He can tell us the Truth only 4% of the time. That says it all.
Obviously, this country is changing. Talk such as... (show quote)


Well you are real selective with your post ,, I suppose your heros hillary , bill , obama are left out of your assessment for a reason , could it be hypocrisy .

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Oct 9, 2016 09:45:34   #
atc333
 
reconreb wrote:
Well you are real selective with your post ,, I suppose your heros hillary , bill , obama are left out of your assessment for a reason , could it be hypocrisy .

I note you have not responded to the issues set out, Federal Debt created by the GOP, massive redistribution of wealth by the GOP, Deregulation by the GOP, and all you can do is complain I did not discuss Hillary, Clinton, and Obama?

They did not create the mess the GOP and Bush II left us with. Your party did with another 8 years of GOP Block and Stall That is the reality, as the GOP hoped and prayed to the gods of elections that keeping America suffering would allow them to win in 2012, and now in 2016. Obama had no choice but to spend massive amounts of money to shore up the financial sector, Granted, there should have been many more criminal prosecutions, but the immediate issue was stopping the Bush II Great Depression, in which he was successful.

Like it or not, Obama, and Clinton will go down in history as our more successful Presidents. The GOP will be noted for what it is, a failed Party, which put its own interests, and political contributions to its politicians first, and Nation and its people last, as proven by its stupidity in denying Global Warming, and continuing to push coal and big oil as sources of energy. Look around you, the results of its stupidity is becoming more apparent every day.

I for one would much rather have a repeat of the Bill Clinton economy, and balanced budget, than the Bush II economic disaster, which is exactly what Trump/Pence would gift this nation, assuming Trump did not lose it, and start WW III.

It is pretty pathetic which Trump's surrogates have to claim he will let Pence run the country, and foreign policy, as Donald the Fraud, the Serial Liar, works on making "America Great Again".
What a joke!

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Oct 9, 2016 10:08:02   #
bilordinary Loc: SW Washington
 
atc333 wrote:
I note you have not responded to the issues set out, Federal Debt created by the GOP, massive redistribution of wealth by the GOP, Deregulation by the GOP, and all you can do is complain I did not discuss Hillary, Clinton, and Obama?

They did not create the mess the GOP and Bush II left us with. Your party did with another 8 years of GOP Block and Stall That is the reality, as the GOP hoped and prayed to the gods of elections that keeping America suffering would allow them to win in 2012, and now in 2016. Obama had no choice but to spend massive amounts of money to shore up the financial sector, Granted, there should have been many more criminal prosecutions, but the immediate issue was stopping the Bush II Great Depression, in which he was successful.

Like it or not, Obama, and Clinton will go down in history as our more successful Presidents. The GOP will be noted for what it is, a failed Party, which put its own interests, and political contributions to its politicians first, and Nation and its people last, as proven by its stupidity in denying Global Warming, and continuing to push coal and big oil as sources of energy. Look around you, the results of its stupidity is becoming more apparent every day.

I for one would much rather have a repeat of the Bill Clinton economy, and balanced budget, than the Bush II economic disaster, which is exactly what Trump/Pence would gift this nation, assuming Trump did not lose it, and start WW III.

It is pretty pathetic which Trump's surrogates have to claim he will let Pence run the country, and foreign policy, as Donald the Fraud, the Serial Liar, works on making "America Great Again".
What a joke!
I note you have not responded to the issues set ou... (show quote)


Nothing here just another bush faulter!

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Oct 9, 2016 11:09:05   #
reconreb Loc: America / Inglis Fla.
 
atc333 wrote:
I note you have not responded to the issues set out, Federal Debt created by the GOP, massive redistribution of wealth by the GOP, Deregulation by the GOP, and all you can do is complain I did not discuss Hillary, Clinton, and Obama?

They did not create the mess the GOP and Bush II left us with. Your party did with another 8 years of GOP Block and Stall That is the reality, as the GOP hoped and prayed to the gods of elections that keeping America suffering would allow them to win in 2012, and now in 2016. Obama had no choice but to spend massive amounts of money to shore up the financial sector, Granted, there should have been many more criminal prosecutions, but the immediate issue was stopping the Bush II Great Depression, in which he was successful.

Like it or not, Obama, and Clinton will go down in history as our more successful Presidents. The GOP will be noted for what it is, a failed Party, which put its own interests, and political contributions to its politicians first, and Nation and its people last, as proven by its stupidity in denying Global Warming, and continuing to push coal and big oil as sources of energy. Look around you, the results of its stupidity is becoming more apparent every day.

I for one would much rather have a repeat of the Bill Clinton economy, and balanced budget, than the Bush II economic disaster, which is exactly what Trump/Pence would gift this nation, assuming Trump did not lose it, and start WW III.

It is pretty pathetic which Trump's surrogates have to claim he will let Pence run the country, and foreign policy, as Donald the Fraud, the Serial Liar, works on making "America Great Again".
What a joke!
I note you have not responded to the issues set ou... (show quote)


Responding to your liberal logic is beyond me , I do not have the ability to fabricate an opinion on half truth mixed with outright looney tune logic , you are just too smart for me , or dumber than a hammer , I'll go with a hammer ..

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Oct 9, 2016 11:12:42   #
bilordinary Loc: SW Washington
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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Because with them in power, they are above the law. But the people are really stupid I think. There are more problems we need to solve, but those locker room jokes are always heard among the boys and adults. Ask the men!


Yeah, just barking dogs!

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Oct 9, 2016 11:17:30   #
bilordinary Loc: SW Washington
 
bilordinary wrote:
Yeah, just barking dogs!


I knew a High School custodian, he stated that the wall art in the girls bathroom far out classed that in the boys.
Filthier and more debasing than the boys.
Liberal liars have a way of blowing things way out of proportion!

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Oct 9, 2016 11:25:24   #
Ricko Loc: Florida
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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This is just destruction. Hillary and Bill Clinton have done much worse than this. It was a locker room conversation. Most men young and old talk about this in the locker room. They make jokes amongst themselves. It was a topic most men talks about it.

Hillary and Carly Fiorina want to destroy Trump so he quit. That is just a tip of the iceberg compared to Hillary and Bill's crimes against women, and against the American people.
I think Carly must just keep quiet. Something is wrong with her face though, but that was a joke.

We need to discuss the real issues. The status of our country right under the drain, and the massive crimes of Hillary Clinton affecting all the American people.
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Radiance3-Agree that this conversation was not meant for public consumption and Hillary dug deep and paid millions to get this crap. Ironically Trump was one of them at that time-yes, he was a democrat. Maybe his ultimate move to the republican party was to get out of the Cesspool . Hillary is still mired in it. Good Luck America !!!~

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Oct 9, 2016 13:55:22   #
kenjay Loc: Arkansas
 
atc333 wrote:
I note you have not responded to the issues set out, Federal Debt created by the GOP, massive redistribution of wealth by the GOP, Deregulation by the GOP, and all you can do is complain I did not discuss Hillary, Clinton, and Obama?

They did not create the mess the GOP and Bush II left us with. Your party did with another 8 years of GOP Block and Stall That is the reality, as the GOP hoped and prayed to the gods of elections that keeping America suffering would allow them to win in 2012, and now in 2016. Obama had no choice but to spend massive amounts of money to shore up the financial sector, Granted, there should have been many more criminal prosecutions, but the immediate issue was stopping the Bush II Great Depression, in which he was successful.

Like it or not, Obama, and Clinton will go down in history as our more successful Presidents. The GOP will be noted for what it is, a failed Party, which put its own interests, and political contributions to its politicians first, and Nation and its people last, as proven by its stupidity in denying Global Warming, and continuing to push coal and big oil as sources of energy. Look around you, the results of its stupidity is becoming more apparent every day.

I for one would much rather have a repeat of the Bill Clinton economy, and balanced budget, than the Bush II economic disaster, which is exactly what Trump/Pence would gift this nation, assuming Trump did not lose it, and start WW III.

It is pretty pathetic which Trump's surrogates have to claim he will let Pence run the country, and foreign policy, as Donald the Fraud, the Serial Liar, works on making "America Great Again".
What a joke!
I note you have not responded to the issues set ou... (show quote)

You are the joke still blaming Bush though obozo has been in power for seven plus years with democrats in charge of congress for the first two. By your reasoning we should be in high cotton but instead we are watching the death of the republic.



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Oct 9, 2016 14:36:27   #
bilordinary Loc: SW Washington
 
atc333 wrote:
I note you have not responded to the issues set out, Federal Debt created by the GOP, massive redistribution of wealth by the GOP, Deregulation by the GOP, and all you can do is complain I did not discuss Hillary, Clinton, and Obama?

They did not create the mess the GOP and Bush II left us with. Your party did with another 8 years of GOP Block and Stall That is the reality, as the GOP hoped and prayed to the gods of elections that keeping America suffering would allow them to win in 2012, and now in 2016. Obama had no choice but to spend massive amounts of money to shore up the financial sector, Granted, there should have been many more criminal prosecutions, but the immediate issue was stopping the Bush II Great Depression, in which he was successful.

Like it or not, Obama, and Clinton will go down in history as our more successful Presidents. The GOP will be noted for what it is, a failed Party, which put its own interests, and political contributions to its politicians first, and Nation and its people last, as proven by its stupidity in denying Global Warming, and continuing to push coal and big oil as sources of energy. Look around you, the results of its stupidity is becoming more apparent every day.

I for one would much rather have a repeat of the Bill Clinton economy, and balanced budget, than the Bush II economic disaster, which is exactly what Trump/Pence would gift this nation, assuming Trump did not lose it, and start WW III.

It is pretty pathetic which Trump's surrogates have to claim he will let Pence run the country, and foreign policy, as Donald the Fraud, the Serial Liar, works on making "America Great Again".
What a joke!
I note you have not responded to the issues set ou... (show quote)


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AllTheCrap

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Oct 9, 2016 14:48:13   #
atc333
 
kenjay wrote:
You are the joke still blaming Bush though obozo has been in power for seven plus years with democrats in charge of congress for the first two. By your reasoning we should be in high cotton but instead we are watching the death of the republic.



You obviously were asleep during the past 8 years, so you missed the GOP block and stall, which is still continuing, or else were not paying attention. That is why we are not now "in high cotton".

As far as Trump goes, He would be the end of the Republic, a pathological liar, with deep seated psychological issues which render him unfit for office.

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Oct 9, 2016 14:52:32   #
JW
 
atc333 wrote:
You obviously were asleep during the past 8 years, so you missed the GOP block and stall, which is still continuing, or else were not paying attention. That is why we are not now "in high cotton".

As far as Trump goes, He would be the end of the Republic, a pathological liar, with deep seated psychological issues which render him unfit for office.


Thank Heaven for the block and stall. Those idiot Democrats would have completely destroyed the country by now. They pass voluminous laws without even reading them.

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