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Jul 20, 2016 12:12:51   #
fredlott63
 
If you think Hillary would be a better choice you are a rhino.

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Jul 20, 2016 12:30:27   #
chuckybrass
 
I don't think of it as voting for Donald, actually. I think of it as voting against Socialism, gun control, immorality, a liberal Supreme Court, and Lord knows what else that could be destroyed in a four year period. Baraq Obama has destroyed more Americanisms in seven years than the Democrats could in the last fifty, and that, my friend, is a risk that I will decline at any cost.

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Jul 20, 2016 12:44:37   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
chuckybrass wrote:
I don't think of it as voting for Donald, actually. I think of it as voting against Socialism, gun control, immorality, a liberal Supreme Court, and Lord knows what else that could be destroyed in a four year period. Baraq Obama has destroyed more Americanisms in seven years than the Democrats could in the last fifty, and that, my friend, is a risk that I will decline at any cost.



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Jul 20, 2016 12:48:00   #
speed 1
 
trump did't write the art of the deal,or any of his other
books, a person who was hired by him did! and that person said that he would never vote for trump.

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Jul 20, 2016 13:14:26   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
chuckybrass wrote:
I don't think of it as voting for Donald, actually. I think of it as voting against Socialism, gun control, immorality, a liberal Supreme Court, and Lord knows what else that could be destroyed in a four year period. Baraq Obama has destroyed more Americanisms in seven years than the Democrats could in the last fifty, and that, my friend, is a risk that I will decline at any cost.


Your point is spot on !

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Jul 20, 2016 13:18:17   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
speed 1 wrote:
trump did't write the art of the deal,or any of his other
books, a person who was hired by him did! and that person said that he would never vote for trump.


Do you personally know this person that was hired to write the book ?

I can think of a lot of things that might influence his decision to not vote for Trump !

I'm not a fan of Trump but I wouldn't put much stock in what a person says about him till I could research his reasoning !

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Jul 20, 2016 13:22:40   #
vernon
 
slatten49 wrote:
Since you asked...here are some. And yes, every politician lies, but, you suggest Trump didn't/doesn't.
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Real estate mogul Donald Trump's supporters frequently praise the bombastic presidential contender for speaking his mind. But how much of it is the truth? Politifact, a website that fact-checks statements made by politicians, awarded Trump’s aggregated claims the PolitiFact 2015 Lie of the Year. Just 1 percent of Trump statements checked by the website were considered “true” and 7 percent “mostly true.” A whopping 20 percent were considered “Pants on Fire” false and 41 percent “false.”

Here are some of the GOP front-runner’s boldest lies, according to the website:

Claim: During Thursday evening’s Fox News Republican presidential debate, Trump said families of the Sept. 11, 2001, hijackers had been living in the U.S. prior to that date. “The wife knew exactly what was happening. They left two days early … and they watched their husband on television flying into the World Trade Center, flying into the Pentagon."

Fact: No relatives of 9/11 hijackers had been living in the U.S. prior to the attacks. Trump was likely referring to Osama bin Laden’s family members, who were not known to have forewarning of the attack, and were evacuated by Saudi Arabia’s government nine days later for their safety.

Claim: Trump brought on controversy after refusing to disavow former Ku Klux Klan leader David Duke, who told listeners of his radio show to “get active” for Trump’s campaign. Although he later disavowed the group amid heavy scrutiny, Trump said during a report: “I don’t know anything about David Duke,” arguing he couldn’t disavow someone he knew nothing about. He repeated the assertion three times.

Fact: Trump not only has mentioned Duke in the past but actually repudiated him during a Bloomberg interview in August 2015. Fifteen years ago, when Trump was considering running for president as a Reform Party candidate, he named Duke a cause for concern. “Well, you’ve got David Duke just joined — a big racist, a problem. I mean, this is not exactly the people you want in your party,” he said.

Claim: Footage from one of Trump's campaign ads shows dozens of people climbing over a border fence. Based on the context, one would have thought the footage was from the U.S.-Mexican border, as the narrator says of Trump: "He'll stop illegal immigration by building a wall on our southern border that Mexico will pay for."

Fact: The footage is not from the southern U.S. border but actually some 5,000 miles away in Morocco. It aired May 3, 2014, on Italian television, Politifact reported.

Claim: Trump said he would like a complete ban on Muslims entering the U.S., taking particular aim at Syrian refugee resettlement. Following the November 2015 attacks in Paris that left 130 people dead, Trump said: "Our president wants to take in 250,000 from Syria."

Fact: President Barack Obama has announced plans to accept some 10,000 Syrian refugees — nowhere near the 250,000 number Trump claimed. The claim might echo an October 2015 assertion made by Fox News host Sean Hannity, Politifact reported.

Claim: In October, Trump claimed that on 9/11, “there were people that were cheering on the other side of New Jersey, where you have large Arab populations. They were cheering as the World Trade Center came down.”

Fact: Not only was it not "well-covered," as Trump claimed during an interview, but Trump's campaign has been unable to provide evidence that any groups of Muslims were celebrating the attacks in New Jersey.

Claim: During a February CBS debate, Trump repeated a claim that he opposed the war in Iraq. He has said that his opposition to the war was "loud and clear."

"I'm the only one on this stage that said, ‘Do not go into Iraq. Do not attack Iraq,’" Trump said during the debate. "Nobody else on this stage said that. And I said it loud and strong. And I was in the private sector. I wasn't a politician, fortunately. But I said it, and I said it loud and clear: ‘You'll destabilize the Middle East.’"

Fact: There is no known public record of Trump's taking a clear stance against the war before it began. Three months after its outset, he did express skepticism during a Fox News interview, but hardly denounced it "loud and clear," nor did he cite destabilization of the Middle East as part of the problem. A year later he offered much more strongly opposed statements.

Claim: Trump has frequently argued that Obama is a terrible negotiator. He once cited the May 2014 exchange of Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, held by the Taliban, for five Guantanamo Bay detainees as a problematic deal made by the president. "They're back on the battlefield, trying to kill everybody, including us," he alleged, referring to the released Taliban members.

Fact: Politifact investigated the claim and found that each of the released detainees remained in Qatar, a U.S. ally, where they are under government surveillance. There is reportedly evidence, however, that at least one of the detainees has sought to reconnect with the Taliban.

Claim: During the Fox News debate Thursday evening, Trump said: "I beat Hillary Clinton in many polls. The Pew poll just came out. I beat Hillary Clinton in a recent Fox poll, I beat Hillary Clinton in USA Today, I beat her today in a poll in Ohio. I beat — I'm the only one that beats Hillary Clinton."

Fact: According to the latest Fox poll, Clinton would beat Trump in a general election. A USA Today poll, however, has Trump winning. Most polling since May indicates Clinton would be far more likely to win against Trump in a possible matchup, the Associated Press reported.

Claim: Trump has repeatedly criticized the Mexican government for illegal immigration into the U.S. "The Mexican government ... they send the bad ones over," he said.

Fact: There's no evidence of the Mexican government having sent over undocumented immigrants. Fox News’ Chris Wallace pressed the candidate during a debate, to which he cited personal conversations with people working at the border. Most immigration experts agree that undocumented crossing into the U.S. is tied to a desire to escape economic hardship and violence.

Claim: Trump has said the Iran nuclear deal would require that the U.S. side with Iran if it were attacked by Israel. "Nobody knows this and even talks about that point, but basically we’re supposed to protect them," he said during a radio interview aired in Virginia.

Fact: The charge — which has been made by some Israeli media outlets — seems to be drawn from what many believe to be a misinterpretation of the agreement. It calls for protecting Iran's nuclear material from being stolen by thieves or terrorists.

These are just a small sampling...there are links with more than 100+ reputed & documented lies by Trump. Look the rest up at your pleasure.
Since you asked...here are some. And yes, every p... (show quote)



in the heat of a debate ou can make misstatements but there is a hell of a difference in in this type of lying and lying under oath or to the fbi which hillery is very good at.and as far as gary is concerned he admits he is a druggie and quit while he is campaigning.how do you know he wont legalize all drugs?
but i have to say trump was confused about the people in n j im sure he saw the demonstrations in palestine which they had on tv and i know they were shown dancing and having a good old time.
i have a problem with us protecting their nuclear stockpile.just how can we do that with out coming to the aid of our enemy?you have to be very carefull of the wording.
as far as the mexican govt,they dam sure havent done anything to quell the rush.and i remember when vincenti fox spoke to the canadian parliament and he said i pray for the day that canada and mexico share a common border.
as far a the five killers, i read that 30%of those released have gone back to the battle field and if these five haven't gone back you can bet your biffy they will.

heck a lot of people have met duke that dosent make them racist,and trump disavowed him what more can you do.if i remember i think they complained because he didn't do it fast enough.what if someone named bob smith said he supported trump should he jump up and disavow him.i don't remember anyone saying obama should disavow bill aires a killer and a communist who should never have been allowed out of prison.

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Jul 20, 2016 13:29:54   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
vernon wrote:
in the heat of a debate ou can make misstatements but there is a hell of a difference in in this type of lying and lying under oath or to the fbi which hillery is very good at.and as far as gary is concerned he admits he is a druggie and quit while he is campaigning.how do you know he wont legalize all drugs?
but i have to say trump was confused about the people in n j im sure he saw the demonstrations in palestine which they had on tv and i know they were shown dancing and having a good old time.
i have a problem with us protecting their nuclear stockpile.just how can we do that with out coming to the aid of our enemy?you have to be very carefull of the wording.
as far as the mexican govt,they dam sure havent done anything to quell the rush.and i remember when vincenti fox spoke to the canadian parliament and he said i pray for the day that canada and mexico share a common border.
as far a the five killers, i read that 30%of those released have gone back to the battle field and if these five haven't gone back you can bet your biffy they will.

heck a lot of people have met duke that dosent make them racist,and trump disavowed him what more can you do.if i remember i think they complained because he didn't do it fast enough.what if someone named bob smith said he supported trump should he jump up and disavow him.i don't remember anyone saying obama should disavow bill aires a killer and a communist who should never have been allowed out of prison.
in the heat of a debate ou can make misstatements ... (show quote)


Respectfully, Vernon, are you suggesting all of Trump's lies/misinformation/disinformation/inaccuracies/misstatements warrant asterisks As I wrote, all politicians lie. Trump is just falling in line with his predecessors and contemporaries. It seems an occupational hazard.

It appears that Trump's campaign speech writer just admitted plagiarism in Melania's speech. Another misstatement on their part, I guess.

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Jul 20, 2016 13:34:29   #
vernon
 
J Anthony wrote:
The only socialism dominating the US these days is corporate-socialism, or corporatism. Both Trump and Clinton are benefactors of taxpayer-funded corporatism. It is blatant and undeniable.
Talk about ignorance...how is it that a luxury-real-estate tycoon born of the silver-spoon can convince a fair-chunk of working-America that he understands their challenges and is qualified to be their spokesman? The cognitive-dissonance on both "sides" is astounding.



we have had 28 yrs. of socialism and they are very close to taking over completely better wake up.trump has said the things that ring true and i think he will try to instill them.now hellery said to the coal workers she out out of work she would take care of them .HOW,by putting them on welfare ,no decent human being wants to live off someone else's labor.

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Jul 20, 2016 13:35:25   #
Ric- Truther Loc: Wisconsin
 
So glad to read a sensible, sane statement regarding this election cycle! Trump has become a thoughtless clown in this process and I have felt outrage at some of his public performances. It is downright embarrassing that he has been officially nominated!
Does this leave me, as an independent, only the choice between a criminal and a clown? I had the privilege of voting for JFK when I voted in my first presidential election. I sincerely believed we had a rational nation that was built and functioned on a solid rule of law. But that respectable edifice has crumbled through the years and there has been only one candidate since JFK who offered even a small hope of integrity.
The only way I can cast a vote with any self-respect is to write-in for Dr. Ben Carson, the only person in this whole circus that deserves any respect!

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Jul 20, 2016 13:42:43   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
Ric- Truther wrote:
So glad to read a sensible, sane statement regarding this election cycle! Trump has become a thoughtless clown in this process and I have felt outrage at some of his public performances. It is downright embarrassing that he has been officially nominated!
Does this leave me, as an independent, only the choice between a criminal and a clown? I had the privilege of voting for JFK when I voted in my first presidential election. I sincerely believed we had a rational nation that was built and functioned on a solid rule of law. But that respectable edifice has crumbled through the years and there has been only one candidate since JFK who offered even a small hope of integrity.
The only way I can cast a vote with any self-respect is to write-in for Dr. Ben Carson, the only person in this whole circus that deserves any respect!
So glad to read a sensible, sane statement regardi... (show quote)

Ric-Truther, if you would please hit 'quote reply' underneath the post to which you are responding, it will let the rest of us know to whom you are addressing your comment(s). Thank you.

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Jul 20, 2016 13:44:33   #
crashqaz
 
Well here we go again down that lonely road.
You have THE BITCH on the left and Trump on the right. You know what Clinton will do if she is elected, more Obama shit then some. Let's give Trump a fighting chance at least.
As for the fancy speech writer, I think you were a little bit wrong. One president no military service and no political background. Now he was a lawyer, also a farmer. He was elected on the third party ticket. Give up, how about Abraham Lincoln the 16th president.
Look at what happened last night, people didn't want to
vote for Trump so they threw their votes away.
Now look at the total number of votes that Trump didn't get, you could put Clinton in office by doing that. Or voting for a third party, someone that doesn't have a chance in hell of winning. All you have done is wasted you time throwing away your vote and the time to count it.
You may not like the choices out there but you have a choice. Most countries don't give you a choice. They are ran by a dictator, put her in and that is what you will get.
SEMPER. FI. Crashqaz. III%

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Jul 20, 2016 13:50:06   #
vernon
 
slatten49 wrote:
Respectfully, Vernon, are you suggesting all of Trump's lies/misinformation/disinformation/inaccuracies/misstatements warrant asterisks As I wrote, all politicians lie. Trump is just falling in line with his predecessors and contemporaries. It seems an occupational hazard.

It appears that Trump's campaign speech writer just admitted plagiarism in Melania's speech. Another misstatement on their part, I guess.
Respectfully, Vernon, are you suggesting all of Tr... (show quote)



oh come on my wife used everyone of those cliches in her speeches,and that was in the 50s.i guess they both plagiarized her,these are common statements.but just in case you missed it the speech writer offered to resign.they thought they had young trump for the same thing but his speech writer had used that in another speech years ago and he couldn't steal from himself they had to get off that quick.
i think you'll admit that the msm is after every little thing they can get to use against trump.if they did that to hellery she would wind up in prison.

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Jul 20, 2016 13:51:20   #
vernon
 
crashqaz wrote:
Well here we go again down that lonely road.
You have THE BITCH on the left and Trump on the right. You know what Clinton will do if she is elected, more Obama shit then some. Let's give Trump a fighting chance at least.
As for the fancy speech writer, I think you were a little bit wrong. One president no military service and no political background. Now he was a lawyer, also a farmer. He was elected on the third party ticket. Give up, how about Abraham Lincoln the 16th president.
Look at what happened last night, people didn't want to
vote for Trump so they threw their votes away.
Now look at the total number of votes that Trump didn't get, you could put Clinton in office by doing that. Or voting for a third party, someone that doesn't have a chance in hell of winning. All you have done is wasted you time throwing away your vote and the time to count it.
You may not like the choices out there but you have a choice. Most countries don't give you a choice. They are ran by a dictator, put her in and that is what you will get.
SEMPER. FI. Crashqaz. III%
Well here we go again down that lonely road. br Yo... (show quote)



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Jul 20, 2016 13:55:13   #
valkyrierider Loc: "Land of Trump"
 
no propaganda please wrote:
Just found a used copy of that on Amazon, and ordered it, on your recommendation.


I would love to have some feedback after you start reading it. You will not believe what you will learn from that book.

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