Some things just make sense - and some things just don't: There is a growing resentment among Americans that are seeking some form of Government assistance, who see newly arrived...

lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas

There is a growing resentment among Americans that are seeking some form of Government assistance, who see newly arrived foreigners get immediately, what they've been wait years for. I can certainly understand such feelings. This resentment is added on top of the growing resentment all Americans feel towards anyone receiving such assistance. With the economy and our political scene in turmoil, turning unease into outright terror, seeing some get freely what the rest of us work our asses off for, is bound to elicit an angry response - and justifiably so.

We have a Christian duty to help others in need, we have an American duty to help those that need it - but we do NOT have any obligation to support anyone for the rest of their lives. We see foreigners receive services and benefits we deny to our own citizens, and that is just wrong in every sense of the word. Am I saying that we should treat foreigners less tenderly than we treat our own citizens? No, I am saying that we should treat our own citizens at least as well as we treat foreigners - and that, we are not doing. That makes no sense at all. We owe every citizen the opportunity for life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, we owe the rest of the world nothing. When we care for our own, that is not charity, it is duty. Caring for foreigners is charity.

That being said, we are doing a major disservice to our own citizens above and beyond how we treat foreigners. Here's the deal; we do not have a duty to proved assistance to any American for life, excepting those that through disease or injury cannot care for themselves. The average American gets up everyday, reports for work working 8,10,12 hours a day every day and has a portion of their pay drawn off - to help someone else - who does nothing all day. That makes no sense. Why should you get to play video games all day because you're out of work, being supported by those that DO have jobs? I believe that EVERYONE should have a job, excepting those I previously mentioned. The unemployed persons job is to find work, the uneducated persons job is to get an education and the person on welfare's job is to get off welfare. Those are their jobs - and that job should start at 8 am, last all day every day, Monday through Friday.

Anyone not working for their own survival, for whatever reason, should still have a job to go to every day as I previously mentioned. It could be vocational training, school ( GED, college ), or community service. We do not owe anyone anything for free, they MUST work for their supper, just like everyone else - and we owe it to them to see that they do. Some welfare recipients are 3rd and 4th generation and don't know the meaning ( or value ) of hard work. How can we expect anyone to get ( and keep ) a job, if they have no experience at punching a clock? I know many people, who do not know that the rest of the world begins it's day between 5am and 7am - not noon, and who's day ends before midnight.

All assistance programs must have it's mission stated as being a temporary measure, the goal being teaching/training the recipient to be self sufficient. During the assistance period, the recipient should act as thought they have a job, getting up every day and reporting by 8 am for training, schooling or community service. There is no reason for them NOT to, especially as those supporting them must do the same. This just makes sense on many levels, teaching time discipline, avoiding boredom, increasing self respect and repaying in some measure what others are slaving to provide them. No one gets a free ride - it's that simple.

We are treating our citizens in cruelly , when we do not require them to behave as though their time is valuable to us. We must learn to view such assistance as an investment in our future - and ensure that those receiving such assistance view it the same way. The best way to do both, is to require them to get their ass up everyday and report for duty at a specific time. Those with children who fail to comply, should be arrested for child abuse - then they can laze around all day in jail. We have a duty to care for our own - and they have a duty to act like they care. We have a duty to help people become self sufficient - and they have a duty to do everything in their power to see it done - including getting up every day and reporting for work, somewhere, doing some thing.

archie bunker Loc: Texas

lpnmajor wrote:

There is a growing resentment among Americans that are seeking some form of Government assistance, who see newly arrived foreigners get immediately, what they've been wait years for. I can certainly understand such feelings. This resentment is added on top of the growing resentment all Americans feel towards anyone receiving such assistance. With the economy and our political scene in turmoil, turning unease into outright terror, seeing some get freely what the rest of us work our asses off for, is bound to elicit an angry response - and justifiably so.

We have a Christian duty to help others in need, we have an American duty to help those that need it - but we do NOT have any obligation to support anyone for the rest of their lives. We see foreigners receive services and benefits we deny to our own citizens, and that is just wrong in every sense of the word. Am I saying that we should treat foreigners less tenderly than we treat our own citizens? No, I am saying that we should treat our own citizens at least as well as we treat foreigners - and that, we are not doing. That makes no sense at all. We owe every citizen the opportunity for life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, we owe the rest of the world nothing. When we care for our own, that is not charity, it is duty. Caring for foreigners is charity.

That being said, we are doing a major disservice to our own citizens above and beyond how we treat foreigners. Here's the deal; we do not have a duty to proved assistance to any American for life, excepting those that through disease or injury cannot care for themselves. The average American gets up everyday, reports for work working 8,10,12 hours a day every day and has a portion of their pay drawn off - to help someone else - who does nothing all day. That makes no sense. Why should you get to play video games all day because you're out of work, being supported by those that DO have jobs? I believe that EVERYONE should have a job, excepting those I previously mentioned. The unemployed persons job is to find work, the uneducated persons job is to get an education and the person on welfare's job is to get off welfare. Those are their jobs - and that job should start at 8 am, last all day every day, Monday through Friday.

Anyone not working for their own survival, for whatever reason, should still have a job to go to every day as I previously mentioned. It could be vocational training, school ( GED, college ), or community service. We do not owe anyone anything for free, they MUST work for their supper, just like everyone else - and we owe it to them to see that they do. Some welfare recipients are 3rd and 4th generation and don't know the meaning ( or value ) of hard work. How can we expect anyone to get ( and keep ) a job, if they have no experience at punching a clock? I know many people, who do not know that the rest of the world begins it's day between 5am and 7am - not noon, and who's day ends before midnight.

All assistance programs must have it's mission stated as being a temporary measure, the goal being teaching/training the recipient to be self sufficient. During the assistance period, the recipient should act as thought they have a job, getting up every day and reporting by 8 am for training, schooling or community service. There is no reason for them NOT to, especially as those supporting them must do the same. This just makes sense on many levels, teaching time discipline, avoiding boredom, increasing self respect and repaying in some measure what others are slaving to provide them. No one gets a free ride - it's that simple.

We are treating our citizens in cruelly , when we do not require them to behave as though their time is valuable to us. We must learn to view such assistance as an investment in our future - and ensure that those receiving such assistance view it the same way. The best way to do both, is to require them to get their ass up everyday and report for duty at a specific time. Those with children who fail to comply, should be arrested for child abuse - then they can laze around all day in jail. We have a duty to care for our own - and they have a duty to act like they care. We have a duty to help people become self sufficient - and they have a duty to do everything in their power to see it done - including getting up every day and reporting for work, somewhere, doing some thing.

There is a growing resentment among Americans that... (show quote)

I'm speechless!! I'm wondering if you are some kind of Alien who peeled those thoughts out of my head, and posted them here!

To sum up your post, Drag your damn ass out of bed, and go to work!

bggamers Loc: georgia

lpnmajor wrote:

There is a growing resentment among Americans that are seeking some form of Government assistance, who see newly arrived foreigners get immediately, what they've been wait years for. I can certainly understand such feelings. This resentment is added on top of the growing resentment all Americans feel towards anyone receiving such assistance. With the economy and our political scene in turmoil, turning unease into outright terror, seeing some get freely what the rest of us work our asses off for, is bound to elicit an angry response - and justifiably so.

We have a Christian duty to help others in need, we have an American duty to help those that need it - but we do NOT have any obligation to support anyone for the rest of their lives. We see foreigners receive services and benefits we deny to our own citizens, and that is just wrong in every sense of the word. Am I saying that we should treat foreigners less tenderly than we treat our own citizens? No, I am saying that we should treat our own citizens at least as well as we treat foreigners - and that, we are not doing. That makes no sense at all. We owe every citizen the opportunity for life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, we owe the rest of the world nothing. When we care for our own, that is not charity, it is duty. Caring for foreigners is charity.

That being said, we are doing a major disservice to our own citizens above and beyond how we treat foreigners. Here's the deal; we do not have a duty to proved assistance to any American for life, excepting those that through disease or injury cannot care for themselves. The average American gets up everyday, reports for work working 8,10,12 hours a day every day and has a portion of their pay drawn off - to help someone else - who does nothing all day. That makes no sense. Why should you get to play video games all day because you're out of work, being supported by those that DO have jobs? I believe that EVERYONE should have a job, excepting those I previously mentioned. The unemployed persons job is to find work, the uneducated persons job is to get an education and the person on welfare's job is to get off welfare. Those are their jobs - and that job should start at 8 am, last all day every day, Monday through Friday.

Anyone not working for their own survival, for whatever reason, should still have a job to go to every day as I previously mentioned. It could be vocational training, school ( GED, college ), or community service. We do not owe anyone anything for free, they MUST work for their supper, just like everyone else - and we owe it to them to see that they do. Some welfare recipients are 3rd and 4th generation and don't know the meaning ( or value ) of hard work. How can we expect anyone to get ( and keep ) a job, if they have no experience at punching a clock? I know many people, who do not know that the rest of the world begins it's day between 5am and 7am - not noon, and who's day ends before midnight.

All assistance programs must have it's mission stated as being a temporary measure, the goal being teaching/training the recipient to be self sufficient. During the assistance period, the recipient should act as thought they have a job, getting up every day and reporting by 8 am for training, schooling or community service. There is no reason for them NOT to, especially as those supporting them must do the same. This just makes sense on many levels, teaching time discipline, avoiding boredom, increasing self respect and repaying in some measure what others are slaving to provide them. No one gets a free ride - it's that simple.

We are treating our citizens in cruelly , when we do not require them to behave as though their time is valuable to us. We must learn to view such assistance as an investment in our future - and ensure that those receiving such assistance view it the same way. The best way to do both, is to require them to get their ass up everyday and report for duty at a specific time. Those with children who fail to comply, should be arrested for child abuse - then they can laze around all day in jail. We have a duty to care for our own - and they have a duty to act like they care. We have a duty to help people become self sufficient - and they have a duty to do everything in their power to see it done - including getting up every day and reporting for work, somewhere, doing some thing.

There is a growing resentment among Americans that... (show quote)

I totally agree with you I work with someone who's husband is almost crippled and blind it took them 2 yrs and a lawer just to get him on medicaid because obama care says she doesnt qaulify. she is only able to wk 2 days a wk because she can barley walk because she needs a knee replacement and doent have insurance. so yes it totally ticks me off to see healthy foreigners walk off the plane and get what they dont diserve

Airforceone

lpnmajor wrote:

There is a growing resentment among Americans that are seeking some form of Government assistance, who see newly arrived foreigners get immediately, what they've been wait years for. I can certainly understand such feelings. This resentment is added on top of the growing resentment all Americans feel towards anyone receiving such assistance. With the economy and our political scene in turmoil, turning unease into outright terror, seeing some get freely what the rest of us work our asses off for, is bound to elicit an angry response - and justifiably so.

We have a Christian duty to help others in need, we have an American duty to help those that need it - but we do NOT have any obligation to support anyone for the rest of their lives. We see foreigners receive services and benefits we deny to our own citizens, and that is just wrong in every sense of the word. Am I saying that we should treat foreigners less tenderly than we treat our own citizens? No, I am saying that we should treat our own citizens at least as well as we treat foreigners - and that, we are not doing. That makes no sense at all. We owe every citizen the opportunity for life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, we owe the rest of the world nothing. When we care for our own, that is not charity, it is duty. Caring for foreigners is charity.

That being said, we are doing a major disservice to our own citizens above and beyond how we treat foreigners. Here's the deal; we do not have a duty to proved assistance to any American for life, excepting those that through disease or injury cannot care for themselves. The average American gets up everyday, reports for work working 8,10,12 hours a day every day and has a portion of their pay drawn off - to help someone else - who does nothing all day. That makes no sense. Why should you get to play video games all day because you're out of work, being supported by those that DO have jobs? I believe that EVERYONE should have a job, excepting those I previously mentioned. The unemployed persons job is to find work, the uneducated persons job is to get an education and the person on welfare's job is to get off welfare. Those are their jobs - and that job should start at 8 am, last all day every day, Monday through Friday.

Anyone not working for their own survival, for whatever reason, should still have a job to go to every day as I previously mentioned. It could be vocational training, school ( GED, college ), or community service. We do not owe anyone anything for free, they MUST work for their supper, just like everyone else - and we owe it to them to see that they do. Some welfare recipients are 3rd and 4th generation and don't know the meaning ( or value ) of hard work. How can we expect anyone to get ( and keep ) a job, if they have no experience at punching a clock? I know many people, who do not know that the rest of the world begins it's day between 5am and 7am - not noon, and who's day ends before midnight.

All assistance programs must have it's mission stated as being a temporary measure, the goal being teaching/training the recipient to be self sufficient. During the assistance period, the recipient should act as thought they have a job, getting up every day and reporting by 8 am for training, schooling or community service. There is no reason for them NOT to, especially as those supporting them must do the same. This just makes sense on many levels, teaching time discipline, avoiding boredom, increasing self respect and repaying in some measure what others are slaving to provide them. No one gets a free ride - it's that simple.

We are treating our citizens in cruelly , when we do not require them to behave as though their time is valuable to us. We must learn to view such assistance as an investment in our future - and ensure that those receiving such assistance view it the same way. The best way to do both, is to require them to get their ass up everyday and report for duty at a specific time. Those with children who fail to comply, should be arrested for child abuse - then they can laze around all day in jail. We have a duty to care for our own - and they have a duty to act like they care. We have a duty to help people become self sufficient - and they have a duty to do everything in their power to see it done - including getting up every day and reporting for work, somewhere, doing some thing.

There is a growing resentment among Americans that... (show quote)

First this post about Americans not being able to assistance is BS your wrong you know your wrong and you got your info from a BS article that just continues to play into and provoke right wing hate.

Second you mention jobs again being a low information voter show me one jobs bill created or sponsored by any right wing legislator in the last 20 years. I have being listening to Trump and he has used the word crooked more than Jobs the mans is a fraud.

Now show me one immigration bill sponsored by the right wing legislators I am just looking for one.

Show me one bill sponsored by the right that creates tax breaks for the middle class just one I am not looking for a lot.

Airforceone

archie bunker wrote:

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archie bunker Loc: Texas

tdsrnest wrote:

First this post about Americans not being able to ... (show quote)

You are not sane, or a thinking person. Has the ACA had any effect on a member of your family?
It has mine! I'm trying to be nice here Tom, but you actually, are clueless. People are going banckrupt, and dying because of the ACA, and other democrat policies. Look at the VA.
This isn't right wing bullshit. It is life for the average, hard working American CITIZEN.

I could easily wish on you that the ACA hurts your family as bad as it has mine, like you wished gun violence on mine. But I cant. No one should have to go through that! It is inhumane at best! A bullet to the head is humane.

PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.

archie bunker wrote:

You are not sane, or a thinking person. Has the AC... (show quote)

Pay it no mind Arch, it is only here as a provocateur.

3jack

tdsrnest wrote:

First this post about Americans not being able to ... (show quote)

Based on the history of the right wing posters on OPP, you will not get answers to anything you asked. You will, however, get a boat load of deflecting because they don't have answers.

mcmlx

lpnmajor wrote:

There is a growing resentment among Americans that are seeking some form of Government assistance, who see newly arrived foreigners get immediately, what they've been wait years for. I can certainly understand such feelings. This resentment is added on top of the growing resentment all Americans feel towards anyone receiving such assistance. With the economy and our political scene in turmoil, turning unease into outright terror, seeing some get freely what the rest of us work our asses off for, is bound to elicit an angry response - and justifiably so.

We have a Christian duty to help others in need, we have an American duty to help those that need it - but we do NOT have any obligation to support anyone for the rest of their lives. We see foreigners receive services and benefits we deny to our own citizens, and that is just wrong in every sense of the word. Am I saying that we should treat foreigners less tenderly than we treat our own citizens? No, I am saying that we should treat our own citizens at least as well as we treat foreigners - and that, we are not doing. That makes no sense at all. We owe every citizen the opportunity for life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, we owe the rest of the world nothing. When we care for our own, that is not charity, it is duty. Caring for foreigners is charity.

That being said, we are doing a major disservice to our own citizens above and beyond how we treat foreigners. Here's the deal; we do not have a duty to proved assistance to any American for life, excepting those that through disease or injury cannot care for themselves. The average American gets up everyday, reports for work working 8,10,12 hours a day every day and has a portion of their pay drawn off - to help someone else - who does nothing all day. That makes no sense. Why should you get to play video games all day because you're out of work, being supported by those that DO have jobs? I believe that EVERYONE should have a job, excepting those I previously mentioned. The unemployed persons job is to find work, the uneducated persons job is to get an education and the person on welfare's job is to get off welfare. Those are their jobs - and that job should start at 8 am, last all day every day, Monday through Friday.

Anyone not working for their own survival, for whatever reason, should still have a job to go to every day as I previously mentioned. It could be vocational training, school ( GED, college ), or community service. We do not owe anyone anything for free, they MUST work for their supper, just like everyone else - and we owe it to them to see that they do. Some welfare recipients are 3rd and 4th generation and don't know the meaning ( or value ) of hard work. How can we expect anyone to get ( and keep ) a job, if they have no experience at punching a clock? I know many people, who do not know that the rest of the world begins it's day between 5am and 7am - not noon, and who's day ends before midnight.

All assistance programs must have it's mission stated as being a temporary measure, the goal being teaching/training the recipient to be self sufficient. During the assistance period, the recipient should act as thought they have a job, getting up every day and reporting by 8 am for training, schooling or community service. There is no reason for them NOT to, especially as those supporting them must do the same. This just makes sense on many levels, teaching time discipline, avoiding boredom, increasing self respect and repaying in some measure what others are slaving to provide them. No one gets a free ride - it's that simple.

We are treating our citizens in cruelly , when we do not require them to behave as though their time is valuable to us. We must learn to view such assistance as an investment in our future - and ensure that those receiving such assistance view it the same way. The best way to do both, is to require them to get their ass up everyday and report for duty at a specific time. Those with children who fail to comply, should be arrested for child abuse - then they can laze around all day in jail. We have a duty to care for our own - and they have a duty to act like they care. We have a duty to help people become self sufficient - and they have a duty to do everything in their power to see it done - including getting up every day and reporting for work, somewhere, doing some thing.

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Well said.

archie bunker Loc: Texas

PoppaGringo wrote:

Pay it no mind Arch, it is only here as a provocateur.

You are correct. And....we can't fix stupid.

America Only Loc: From the right hand of God

3jack wrote:

Based on the history of the right wing posters on OPP, you will not get answers to anything you asked. You will, however, get a boat load of deflecting because they don't have answers.

I have an answer for you...30.06! It tends to NOT be deflected by much.

lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas

tdsrnest wrote:

First this post about Americans not being able to ... (show quote)

I can see that you're emotionally distraught, as evidenced by your horrible sentence construction. Take a breath - and read the article again. I said nothing about requiring welfare recipients to get paying jobs immediately, I said they must ACT like they have paying jobs and get up everyday and report for whatever has been designed for them, as a measure to HELP them get paying jobs and off welfare. Do you really oppose teaching our "less than fortunate" citizens self respect, self discipline, the skills and education they need to be self sufficient, productive and happy members of our society? Somehow, I think not, so I can only conclude that you intentionally/unintentionally misunderstood what I wrote.

BTW, I did not get anything from a "BS article", which explains the lack of a link to such. I did what I encourage everyone to do, which is research an issue using all available sources. Those sources may include forums, blogs, social media outlets, news articles, professional publications and more importantly - people who deal with the issue on a daily basis. I am non partisan and unaffiliated with any political ideology at all, so any accusations of such are flat out wrong.

The only reason I offer this "self defense", is as a teaching moment, to teach you to think first and react later.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Make AMERICA FIRST, not every other country and we would have plenty of money to shut down our debt and feed and house our VETS and all other truly needy.....

Yes, we have an obligation to help where we can, but like everything, that is help after we have taking care of our own first..Why should it be any different for the Country..They print all the money needed to send to terrorist countries, along with guns and care packages, and even go in and rebuild countries they have no damn obligation do..Why not START right here..If anything is left over, then by all means, spread to the truly needed third world countries but stay the heck OUT of the Middle East...

mcmlx

lindajoy wrote:

Make AMERICA FIRST, not every other country and we... (show quote)

Common sense ain't so common in our government.
What part of clean up your own backyard before you start on the one next door do they not understand?

speed 1

most people agree, the problem is the politicians both right and left who have sold out to special interests and could care less for the majority.