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Can someone explain the difference in these two 'assault weapons'?
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Jun 17, 2016 12:56:01   #
Onelostdog Loc: Restless Oregon
 
JW wrote:
It was my understanding only dealers could have fully automatic weapons. Is that wrong?


Private citizens can acquire a full auto certification in some states. Like I stated all it takes is time, money and the proper background checks ( My inclusion here is as long as your not of Mooslime persuasion, then just demand it and it is probably yours at tax payers expense).

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Jun 17, 2016 12:59:16   #
Onelostdog Loc: Restless Oregon
 
JW wrote:
It was my understanding only dealers could have fully automatic weapons. Is that wrong?


There are full auto shoots yearly in Oregon that bring in hundreds of dealers and private individuals both as spectators and shooters. You can rent a mag full to shoot of just about any type of full auto weapon you desire at these shoots. Fun in the sun a couple times a year.

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Jun 17, 2016 14:44:51   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
JW wrote:
It was my understanding only dealers could have fully automatic weapons. Is that wrong?

I did some research on the subject...

http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2013/01/18/169526687/the-decades-old-gun-ban-thats-still-on-the-books

It is illegal for any civilian to own a new automatic weapon but some states allow citizens to own old automatic weapons. To obtain one requires ATF approval and six months worth of paperwork.


Since 1986, it has been illegal to manufacture full auto firearms for the civilian market. Weapons manufactured prior to that are legal to own, they just require a ton of paperwork and a lot of money. You don't have to be a dealer to own one, you just have to have a license, which is not the same as an FFL.

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Jun 17, 2016 15:26:06   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Loki wrote:
How about those assault drills? They hold multiple bits, and have no legitimate sporting purpose. On top of that, some are even battery powered. Who knows what kind of mischief a malefactor could concoct with one of these weapons of mass drilling and screwing? Construction tools with no business in the average person's home.


Leave it to the experts, eh?

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Jun 17, 2016 15:56:09   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
archie bunker wrote:
Lefties first, please!

You assume lefties don't know anything about guns and yet the most successful assault rifle in history was developed and manufactured by lefties. You get the idiot award for the day.

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Jun 17, 2016 16:38:27   #
Zombiefarmer23 Loc: Bull Hills
 
Loki wrote:
I will do you one better. You can have your automatic, and I will take a 10 shot lever action and I will still win.


Remember? The colonel opined one geezer who knew how to shoot could outgun a squad of modern soldiers with an 1894 in .30Winchester. I would be willing to take that challenge if I could be the geezer!!

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Jun 17, 2016 16:45:59   #
jeff smith
 
only the time between there manufacturing. they are both good choices for home defense. and every one should own at least one of them or something similar.

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Jun 17, 2016 16:51:49   #
jeff smith
 
PeterS wrote:
Nothing. They are both weapons of war and should be banned...

Next!


so was the musket at the time it was manufactured. quit whining about taking peoples rights away and protect your self. I don't want to hear that's what the police are for. if some one is invading your home and if you have a chance to call the police, by the time they get there it will be TO LATE the damage will already be done and the perpetrator will be GONE.

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Jun 17, 2016 17:02:01   #
Hemiman Loc: Communist California
 
straightUp wrote:
You assume lefties don't know anything about guns and yet the most successful assault rifle in history was developed and manufactured by lefties. You get the idiot award for the day.


It's amazing how easily you give up you're award,you have had it for so long one would think it would be hard to part with it.

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Jun 17, 2016 17:22:03   #
Onelostdog Loc: Restless Oregon
 
straightUp wrote:
You assume lefties don't know anything about guns and yet the most successful assault rifle in history was developed and manufactured by lefties. You get the idiot award for the day.


I sure hope you are not talking about an AK47. If so your wrong again as a Communist is not classified as a leftist anywhere. In that event you will absolutely receive the idiot award for the decade.

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Jun 17, 2016 17:32:49   #
PeterS
 
Richard Rowland wrote:
Why is there always some busybody that thinks they have all the right answers for everyone else? Ole Peter is correct, though, when he mentions an evil government, especially, this administration.

Presently, Peter is for banning semi-automatics, but he and others won't be satisfied to stop there, they'll find an excuse to come after pisrols, rifles, or anything they feel mereits their attention, after the Simi-automatic is banned.

Obama, rather than ban Muslims, wants to handle each terriost attack as a law enforcement action. I'd rather ban Muslims and keep the semi-automatic, just treat the next shooting, also, as a law enforcment action. One last thought, when a suicide bomber eventually shows up, what will Peter want to ban then?
Why is there always some busybody that thinks they... (show quote)


And why wouldn't we be satisfied with Semi-autos. We banned them before and it stopped there. As for a suicide bomber--after OK City regulations are so tight that the only bombs available will be the small vest types. It will still do a lot of damage but thanks to regulations nothing close to what we experienced with a truck bomb.

Oh, and one last thing. Do you think a .44 magnum will put a dent in a suicide bomber? Don't even need to worry about placement the BOOM will scare him to death...

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Jun 17, 2016 17:57:46   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
PeterS wrote:
And why wouldn't we be satisfied with Semi-autos. We banned them before and it stopped there. As for a suicide bomber--after OK City regulations are so tight that the only bombs available will be the small vest types. It will still do a lot of damage but thanks to regulations nothing close to what we experienced with a truck bomb.

Oh, and one last thing. Do you think a .44 magnum will put a dent in a suicide bomber? Don't even need to worry about placement the BOOM will scare him to death...
And why wouldn't we be satisfied with Semi-autos. ... (show quote)


It will put a hole in him, alright. Also in the person standing behind him and more than likely the person standing behindthem. I thought an authority on defensive firearms such as yourself would recognize the dangers of overpenetration from a round as powerful as a 44 mag.
An acquaintance of mine accidentally discharged a .357 magnum inside once. The bullet penetrated 2 interior walls, and lodged in the outside wall of the home, nearly penetrating that also. A .44 has considerably more penetration than a .357.

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Jun 17, 2016 18:10:07   #
PeterS
 
Loki wrote:
It will put a hole in him, alright. Also in the person standing behind him and more than likely the person standing behindthem. I thought an authority on defensive firearms such as yourself would recognize the dangers of overpenetration from a round as powerful as a 44 mag.
An acquaintance of mine accidentally discharged a .357 magnum inside once. The bullet penetrated 2 interior walls, and lodged in the outside wall of the home, nearly penetrating that also. A .44 has considerably more penetration than a .357.
It will put a hole in him, alright. Also in the pe... (show quote)

Oh, I had a friend of my family play quick draw with his .44Mag and he shot himself right above the knee. There was so much damage that the leg had to be amputated. No need to tell me about it's power--I got to see it first hand which is why it's always my example of the ultimate gun to have. It really is bad ass...

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Jun 17, 2016 21:13:32   #
markinny
 
PeterS wrote:
Nothing. They are both weapons of war and should be banned...

Next!


incorrect. both are semi automatic rifles.

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Jun 17, 2016 21:14:31   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
Loki wrote:
I'll take a semi. You can have the auto and I will win.


Ah, you.prefer to call your shot rather than spray and hope.

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