Finally Science and religion may be becoming friends.
Jun 15, 2016 17:53:14 #
Docadhoc wrote:
And Christ gave them two swords.
And.one was used.to cut the ear off a servant of a high.priest. And Christ healed the servant.
No one was killed nor was killing intended.
And.one was used.to cut the ear off a servant of a high.priest. And Christ healed the servant.
No one was killed nor was killing intended.
Because He had to complete the task at hand and be taken.
If someone comes at your 6 year old daughter with a knife with the intention of slitting her throat.....do you just stand by and let it happen....or do you protect her to the death, whether it be the death of the murderer or your own?
C'mon Doc....get real here.
Jun 15, 2016 17:57:34 #
Artemis wrote:
Comes down to every man's truth is his own. It's not about accepting someone else's truth but accepting what they believe for themselves.
Those that speak the truth walk a lonely path.
Jun 15, 2016 18:07:12 #
bdamage wrote:
Those that speak the truth walk a lonely path.
Finally you found a meme that fits you BD. Nice job...
Jun 15, 2016 18:25:52 #
PeterS wrote:
So are you saying those who follow the old testament are mistaken?
And I am finding this really curious. I stated earlier someone who had faith in god would need no gun as Christ was his protector. You are saying that Christ does not support killing. You said I was wrong but if Christ doesn't support killing how so?
And I am finding this really curious. I stated earlier someone who had faith in god would need no gun as Christ was his protector. You are saying that Christ does not support killing. You said I was wrong but if Christ doesn't support killing how so?
I answered you and you did not reply. Were you afraid?
Jun 15, 2016 18:30:41 #
PeterS wrote:
God exists in our imagination. Only the imaginatio... (show quote)
Having read this again, God is not the irrational, we are, by listening to all the denominations and their interpretation than following our rational thought process of coming to our own conclusions one way or the other..Am I irrational because I believe or are you irrational because you do not..No, we have come to our conclusions based on what we believe, whether "spiritual in context, or religious in content,or a non believer..What is irrational is the constant trying of people to convince the other of their position versus accepting the rational decision of each other...
The mind has no limits, the imagination, likewise, does not either..The only limitations we have are those we impose on our self, so why do it??? We are meant to search, investigate, learn, and develop..Develop to a point of perfection, that utopia we all know about but never find?? Maybe we have found it..Found it in the stability of our Faith or our chosen life acceptance and what we do from there develops "our utopia..Maybe not that as explained, but who really knows what that utopia is as explained or if it is even real???Do you?????
Jun 15, 2016 18:32:49 #
PeterS wrote:
Finally you found a meme that fits you BD. Nice job...
There is truth in that...
Those whom lie, cheat, and steal do not walk that path he speaks of because they have not a conscious of right and wrong, only what they set out to achieve..They do not walk alone, they walk endlessly forever........
Jun 15, 2016 18:44:14 #
bdamage wrote:
Those that speak the truth walk a lonely path.
bdamage~~
That is only found by them no matter how much "reassurance" they seek.........
IF God is your reassurance then you will trust and not be afraid..In your knowing
you have your reassurance..No one else can give that to you..Reinforcement yes, but reassurance...
Jun 15, 2016 18:51:06 #
PeterS wrote:
Conservative Christians in every thread on gun control. You should try reading them some time...
You like to repeat the phrase "intellectual integrity".
I had thought you to be seriously asking questions. I gave you clear understandable answers and explanations and asked you serious questions, yet you completely dodge what I said and asked because they were too clear for you to cloud.
You are exhibiting lack of integrity and are obviously just another denier masquerading as someone who has intetest, but in reality has no interest in CHristian perspective.
Believe what you wish. I see no sense in discussing further with one who totally refuses to acknowledge answers or questions when they don't open the door to more denial.
Jun 15, 2016 18:52:15 #
PeterS wrote:
By reading the bible. Have you never read it?
Try reading it through adult eyes.
Jun 15, 2016 18:53:21 #
PeterS wrote:
Oh, there is nothing misguided abouit my notions. ... (show quote)
I did debate and you totally ducked. Done!
Jun 15, 2016 19:12:41 #
mwdegutis wrote:
So you're saying all truth is relative. There is no absolute truth.
What is absolute truth? I believe mathematical and scientific facts are truths, simple historical facts are truths when there isn't room for interpretation, so no not all truths are relative, but people can still believe these truths or not.
Jun 15, 2016 19:24:33 #
Docadhoc wrote:
I believe there are many paths to a goal. The path is not nearly as important as is reaching the goal.
I think the path may be as important, maybe even more so, it may depend on the goal.
Jun 15, 2016 19:43:34 #
PeterS wrote:
Oh, there is nothing misguided about my notions. E... (show quote)
This is all I will say about this because your debased mind will not accept it. I will give you the Reader's Digest version…and I’m done wasting my time with you on this subject…
gotQuestions?org
God commanded, “In the cities of the nations the LORD your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes. Completely destroy them — the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites — as the LORD your God has commanded you. Otherwise, they will teach you to follow all the detestable things they do in worshiping their gods, and you will sin against the LORD your God” (Deuteronomy 20:16-18). The Israelites failed in this mission and exactly what God said would happen occurred (Judges 2:1-3; 1 Kings 11:5; 14:24; 2 Kings 16:3-4). God did not order the extermination of these people to be cruel, but to prevent even greater evil from occurring in the future.
Probably the most difficult part of these commands from God is that God ordered the death of children and infants as well. Why would God order the death of innocent children? 1) Children are not innocent (Psalm 51:5; 58:3); 2) These children would have likely grown up as adherents to the evil religions and practices of their parents; 3) These children would naturally have grown up resentful of the Israelites and later sought to avenge the “unjust” treatment of their parents.
Jun 15, 2016 19:55:24 #
Artemis wrote:
What is absolute truth? I believe mathematical and scientific facts are truths, simple historical facts are truths when there isn't room for interpretation, so no not all truths are relative, but people can still believe these truths or not.
You and I are talking about different meanings of truth: I believe that you mean ‘the body of real things, events, and facts’ while I mean ‘a transcendent fundamental or spiritual reality’ as in absolute truth.
Jun 15, 2016 20:34:45 #
Docadhoc wrote:
You like to repeat the phrase "intellectual i... (show quote)
As I said before--anecdotes and fallacies are not rational answers. If you want answers than you have to ask real questions. I've answered to the best of my ability what you've posed. I can't do any thing more than that...
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