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May 6, 2016 00:34:30   #
Richard94611
 
Is Trump really a conservative ? How do we know ? He runs as a Republican, but what do you think ? He thinks wages are too high, but on the other hand he doesn't want to touch social security, which just about every other Republican wants to change or eliminate. How conservative really is Trump ? What do you think ? Give us your honest opinion.

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May 6, 2016 00:51:03   #
Hemiman Loc: Communist California
 
Richard94611 wrote:
Is Trump really a conservative ? How do we know ? He runs as a Republican, but what do you think ? He thinks wages are too high, but on the other hand he doesn't want to touch social security, which just about every other Republican wants to change or eliminate. How conservative really is Trump ? What do you think ? Give us your honest opinion.


Is Hillery really the beast from hell,is Obama the most corrupt man on the planet ?? Give us your honest opinion.

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May 6, 2016 00:57:52   #
Richard94611
 
OK, so you really don't want us to examine what we know about what Trump's policies would be. My own opinion is that if actually elected, which I don't think will happen, he is going to prove a lot more liberal about a lot of things than conservatives will be comfortable with. I have already cited the fact that Trump doesn't want to change social security while Ryan wants to change or eliminate it. The question remains: How conservative do you think Trump really is ? There's no need to get into an argument about this. I am interested in the collective opinion here.

Hemiman wrote:
Is Hillery really the beast from hell,is Obama the most corrupt man on the planet ?? Give us your honest opinion.

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May 6, 2016 01:22:18   #
L8erToots
 
Richard94611 wrote:
Is Trump really a conservative ? How do we know ? He runs as a Republican, but what do you think ? He thinks wages are too high, but on the other hand he doesn't want to touch social security, which just about every other Republican wants to change or eliminate. How conservative really is Trump ? What do you think ? Give us your honest opinion.

I've always been politically bi-partisan and consider myself a "fiscal conservative" who votes for the best canidate who's ideas and policies for the direction of America closely aligns with mine and to me, Trump's policies make sense. Because we have such a strong 2 Party system (that both suck in my opinion), in order for Trump to run, he has to pick a side. To me, he seems like he's right in the middle of both and I like that. He doesn't always verbally convey his policies well, but if you read them, they make logical sense for all Americans, not just Republicans or Democrats. I see him as someone that understands the difference between a democracy and a republic and understands that while the people who represent "us" are selected by a democratic PROCESS, we are a republic where ALL of the people are represented, not just the "majority" or the Party that won the election...I'm so sick of hearing liberals sneering and gloating with their "We won, we get our way so SUCK IT UP".
I think that Trump is an open minded, critical thinker who isn't afraid to change his opinion when presented with facts that he didn't have before or change his business model when it is no longer working or bringing success. I think that he doesn't see himself as a dictator who believes that the country should live under HIS personal beliefs and opinions, but by what's good for the whole, as determined by the THREE branches of our government. I think he's a FISCAL conservative, but not a religious conservative, and any Republican that won't vote for him because of THAT is no better than a typical Liberal Democrat. THAT is my honest opinion.

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May 6, 2016 01:30:23   #
Hemiman Loc: Communist California
 
Richard94611 wrote:
OK, so you really don't want us to examine what we know about what Trump's policies would be. My own opinion is that if actually elected, which I don't think will happen, he is going to prove a lot more liberal about a lot of things than conservatives will be comfortable with. I have already cited the fact that Trump doesn't want to change social security while Ryan wants to change or eliminate it. The question remains: How conservative do you think Trump really is ? There's no need to get into an argument about this. I am interested in the collective opinion here.
OK, so you really don't want us to examine what we... (show quote)


His policies,as long as he does what is best for the country and its citizens I don't care one bit what he is labeled.Labeles are just words actions are what count.

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May 6, 2016 05:46:08   #
crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island
 
Richard94611 wrote:
Is Trump really a conservative ? How do we know ? He runs as a Republican, but what do you think ? He thinks wages are too high, but on the other hand he doesn't want to touch social security, which just about every other Republican wants to change or eliminate. How conservative really is Trump ? What do you think ? Give us your honest opinion.
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I think & hope that a full discussion of the scope of the federal government in our lives emerges. I think he's more conservative than Mitt Romney, the Bushes, Richard Cheney, who had 'more important things to do' than to be in the military during Viet-Nam, & the other interventionists in the Republican Party.

Don't forget, it was Robert Taft, Mr. Republican during the New Deal, who opposed the founding of the CIA under Pres. Harry S. Truman on the grounds that it would allow the executive to pursue foreign policy without congressional oversight. Look what has happened.

Taft was also opposed to overseas intervention. Barry Goldwater was not a conservative in that sense &, significantly, he went to the 1952 RNC as an Eisenhower delegate, not Taft who was making his last run for the nomination.

In 1960, just about everyone my age I knew in Bayside, Queens dreaded a Kennedy victory because the three wars of the twentieth century had been started under Democrats. We knew we'd be the fodder. JFK was elected & sure enough, he gave us the Cuban Missile Crisis and Viet-Nam.

So, in foreign policy, Donald Trump is far more of a true conservative than any of the war loving Republicans are.

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May 6, 2016 06:33:00   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
crazylibertarian wrote:
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I think & hope that a full discussion of the scope of the federal government in our lives emerges. I think he's more conservative than Mitt Romney, the Bushes, Richard Cheney, who had 'more important things to do' than to be in the military during Viet-Nam, & the other interventionists in the Republican Party.

Don't forget, it was Robert Taft, Mr. Republican during the New Deal, who opposed the founding of the CIA under Pres. Harry S. Truman on the grounds that it would allow the executive to pursue foreign policy without congressional oversight. Look what has happened.

Taft was also opposed to overseas intervention. Barry Goldwater was not a conservative in that sense &, significantly, he went to the 1952 RNC as an Eisenhower delegate, not Taft who was making his last run for the nomination.

In 1960, just about everyone my age I knew in Bayside, Queens dreaded a Kennedy victory because the three wars of the twentieth century had been started under Democrats. We knew we'd be the fodder. JFK was elected & sure enough, he gave us the Cuban Missile Crisis and Viet-Nam.

So, in foreign policy, Donald Trump is far more of a true conservative than any of the war loving Republicans are.
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Actually, it was LBJ who got us into Vietnam full-tilt- boogie. Kennedy wanted only limited involvement. Kennedy also opposed gun control. As a matter of fact, when LBJ was pushing the GCA'68, VP Hubert Humphrey, the Liberal's Liberal, opposed it on Constitutional grounds.
Kennedy disliked LBJ but was forced to accept him as a running mate.

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May 6, 2016 09:30:46   #
crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island
 
Loki wrote:
Actually, it was LBJ who got us into Vietnam full-tilt- boogie. Kennedy wanted only limited involvement. Kennedy also opposed gun control. As a matter of fact, when LBJ was pushing the GCA'68, VP Hubert Humphrey, the Liberal's Liberal, opposed it on Constitutional grounds.
Kennedy disliked LBJ but was forced to accept him as a running mate.
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In January 1968, Robert Kennedy stated that his brother was fully committed to a defense of South Viet-Nam. No matter what, it was JFK who began the buildup. His plans have been the subject of much speculation, mostly to absolve him of any responsibility that his apologists have asserted, that his continued presidency would have resulted in what it did under Lyndon B. Johnson.

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May 6, 2016 09:47:58   #
reconreb Loc: America / Inglis Fla.
 
Richard94611 wrote:
OK, so you really don't want us to examine what we know about what Trump's policies would be. My own opinion is that if actually elected, which I don't think will happen, he is going to prove a lot more liberal about a lot of things than conservatives will be comfortable with. I have already cited the fact that Trump doesn't want to change social security while Ryan wants to change or eliminate it. The question remains: How conservative do you think Trump really is ? There's no need to get into an argument about this. I am interested in the collective opinion here.
OK, so you really don't want us to examine what we... (show quote)


Try that little google thingy on your computer make the letters spellout Trumps offical website : read ... I personaly disagree with some of Trump outlandish statements and think he his playing the media as the maestro directs the symphonie .. But you can not show me a better canidate or more successfull , we want perfection and we all know only the great spirit can provide.. I want a great country ,, If we strive for this goal it can be achived , great leaders are not perfect but great leaders set very high goals and strive to achive .. Go Trump .. / Hitlerly for prison !!

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May 6, 2016 13:08:55   #
Gatsby
 
Richard94611 wrote:
Is Trump really a conservative ? How do we know ? He runs as a Republican, but what do you think ? He thinks wages are too high, but on the other hand he doesn't want to touch social security, which just about every other Republican wants to change or eliminate. How conservative really is Trump ? What do you think ? Give us your honest opinion.


Politically speaking, Trump is a "babe in the woods" and he knows it.
He has already stated that this is a "weakness" of his campaign, and that he will choose a VP with considerable political influence
to help him get legislation through congress.
His VP choice will speak volumes about his ever evolving political positions.
Just my opinions of course.

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May 6, 2016 15:57:11   #
L8erToots
 
reconreb wrote:
Try that little google thingy on your computer make the letters spellout Trumps offical website : read ... I personaly disagree with some of Trump outlandish statements and think he his playing the media as the maestro directs the symphonie .. But you can not show me a better canidate or more successfull , we want perfection and we all know only the great spirit can provide.. I want a great country ,, If we strive for this goal it can be achived , great leaders are not perfect but great leaders set very high goals and strive to achive .. Go Trump .. / Hitlerly for prison !!
Try that little google thingy on your computer mak... (show quote)

I agree, but the expression "you can lead a horse to water, but..." comes to mind.

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May 6, 2016 16:06:10   #
Gatsby
 
L8erToots wrote:
I agree, but the expression "you can lead a horse to water, but..." comes to mind.


Agreed! Perhaps a saline(?) IV?

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May 7, 2016 09:08:35   #
pappadeux Loc: Phoenix AZ
 
Very simple, he is a populist, and that is a person who dwells on the anger of the moment, such as the sad state of affairs such as we as a nation face now. The only catch being is to back up the blather.

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May 7, 2016 10:16:56   #
Jokerswild Loc: The bottom of the deck...most likely
 
The questions are...why would he run as something he is not? Why make the road to the White House any bigger battle than it already is? If he is a democrat or socialist why not just run as one? As for all the crap the left brings up about his donations to this democrat or that democrat, he is a business man, not a politician and he does what EVERY business man does. I am sure that if he had seriously considered running for president the last 20 years he may have done things differently but in the end Trump doesn't really care about anything people think about it. He decided to run and if the people want him they will elect him. If not, he will just keep on doing what he does. His philosophy is quite simple which is made to appear quite complicated by those who hate what he has accomplished.

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May 7, 2016 10:58:44   #
Richard94611
 
Perhaps. but what legislation do you think he would favor and what legislation would he refuse to sign ?

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