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Apr 2, 2016 23:45:53   #
ghostgotcha Loc: The Florida swamps
 
DASHY wrote:
Two of the biggest factors driving homelessness are poverty and lack of affordable housing. Many low wage working people live from paycheck to paycheck with nothing saved in the bank. The loss of a job, an illness, or another catastrophic event can quickly lead to missed rent or mortgage payments and ultimately to eviction and foreclosure. Without personal or government help, losing a job leads directly to homelessness. Trump, who is likely a minimum wage employer, has shown no interest in helping poor and middle class Americans. Talk is cheap.
Two of the biggest factors driving homelessness ar... (show quote)


Allow me to enlighten you just a tad there snowflake.. (While I am sure statistical analysis confuses liberals - please take the time to interpolate the below and gain at least a base of knowledge.)

Read slow now:

Which states have the highest rates of homelessness?

Alaska, California, Colorado, Hawaii, Idaho, Nevada, Oregon, Rhode Island, Washington State, and Washington, D.C. have the highest rates of homelessness, according to a study released in 2007 by The National Alliance to End Homelessness.

What is chronic homelessness?

According to the National Alliance to End Homelessness, 23 percent of homeless people are reported as chronically homeless. According to HUD's definition, a person who is "chronically homeless" is an unaccompanied homeless individual with a disabling condition (e.g., substance abuse, serious mental illness, developmental disability, or chronic physical illness)

For singles, the three most commonly cited causes of homelessness are:

Substance abuse
Lack of affordable housing
Mental illness

Homelessness continues to be a largely urban phenomenon.

71% are in central cities
21% are in suburbs
9% are in rural areas

Note: The above figures are based on 1996 data from Samhsha's National Mental Health Information Center.

People who are homeless frequently report health problems.

38% report alcohol use problems
26% report other drug use problems
39% report some form of mental health problems (20-25% meet criteria for serious mental illness)
66% report either substance use and/or mental health problems
3% report having HIV/AIDS
26% report acute health problems other than HIV/AIDS such as tuberculosis, pneumonia, or sexually transmitted diseases
46% report chronic health conditions such as high blood pressure, diabetes, or cancer

Note: The above figures are based on 1996 data from Samhsha's National Mental Health Information Center.

Got it now?

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Apr 3, 2016 01:00:53   #
Ike Loc: Minnesota Iron Range
 
ghostgotcha wrote:
Allow me to enlighten you just a tad there snowflake.. (While I am sure statistical analysis confuses liberals - please take the time to interpolate the below and gain at least a base of knowledge.)

Read slow now:

Which states have the highest rates of homelessness?

Alaska, California, Colorado, Hawaii, Idaho, Nevada, Oregon, Rhode Island, Washington State, and Washington, D.C. have the highest rates of homelessness, according to a study released in 2007 by The National Alliance to End Homelessness.

What is chronic homelessness?

According to the National Alliance to End Homelessness, 23 percent of homeless people are reported as chronically homeless. According to HUD's definition, a person who is "chronically homeless" is an unaccompanied homeless individual with a disabling condition (e.g., substance abuse, serious mental illness, developmental disability, or chronic physical illness)

For singles, the three most commonly cited causes of homelessness are:

Substance abuse
Lack of affordable housing
Mental illness

Homelessness continues to be a largely urban phenomenon.

71% are in central cities
21% are in suburbs
9% are in rural areas

Note: The above figures are based on 1996 data from Samhsha's National Mental Health Information Center.

People who are homeless frequently report health problems.

38% report alcohol use problems
26% report other drug use problems
39% report some form of mental health problems (20-25% meet criteria for serious mental illness)
66% report either substance use and/or mental health problems
3% report having HIV/AIDS
26% report acute health problems other than HIV/AIDS such as tuberculosis, pneumonia, or sexually transmitted diseases
46% report chronic health conditions such as high blood pressure, diabetes, or cancer

Note: The above figures are based on 1996 data from Samhsha's National Mental Health Information Center.

Got it now?
Allow me to enlighten you just a tad there snowfla... (show quote)


I'm not sure what we are supposed to get from your statistics. They certainly don't seem to invalidate Dashy's statement. If 23% of the homeless are "chronically homeless," than 77% are not. Dash said that homelessness can be caused by loss of a job, illness, or some other catastrophic event. According to your statistics, 75% of the homeless report having some sort of major health problem. Also, I think it is interesting that your list of states having the most homeless includes some of the most liberal states (California and Hawaii, for example) and some of the most conservative (Alaska and Idaho) and some that are "purple" (Colorado, Rhode Island). So what are we supposed to learn from this by reading it slowly?

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Apr 3, 2016 08:08:46   #
DASHY
 
ldsuttonjr wrote:
dashy: You are not thinking hard enough....get'em on the Plantation and you have their hearts and minds. Everyone of their representatives can, and have been bought off! Socialism has and continues to destroy one's ability to seek and maintain free-will and free choice!



Maybe for you but certainly not for me. Being able to exercise free will and free choice is what I love about America.

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Apr 3, 2016 08:44:52   #
ghostgotcha Loc: The Florida swamps
 
Ike wrote:
I'm not sure what we are supposed to get from your statistics. They certainly don't seem to invalidate Dashy's statement. If 23% of the homeless are "chronically homeless," than 77% are not. Dash said that homelessness can be caused by loss of a job, illness, or some other catastrophic event. According to your statistics, 75% of the homeless report having some sort of major health problem. Also, I think it is interesting that your list of states having the most homeless includes some of the most liberal states (California and Hawaii, for example) and some of the most conservative (Alaska and Idaho) and some that are "purple" (Colorado, Rhode Island). So what are we supposed to learn from this by reading it slowly?
I'm not sure what we are supposed to get from your... (show quote)



Well; In your case it would appear wasted effort for you to try and learn anything out of your preconceived and intent to deny at all costs .

Just pathetic!

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Apr 3, 2016 08:52:16   #
DASHY
 
Ike wrote:
I'm not sure what we are supposed to get from your statistics. They certainly don't seem to invalidate Dashy's statement. If 23% of the homeless are "chronically homeless," than 77% are not. Dash said that homelessness can be caused by loss of a job, illness, or some other catastrophic event. According to your statistics, 75% of the homeless report having some sort of major health problem. Also, I think it is interesting that your list of states having the most homeless includes some of the most liberal states (California and Hawaii, for example) and some of the most conservative (Alaska and Idaho) and some that are "purple" (Colorado, Rhode Island). So what are we supposed to learn from this by reading it slowly?
I'm not sure what we are supposed to get from your... (show quote)



One of the things I got is 71% of homeless are in central cities, where affordable housing is hard to find. Another observation is a 20-year old study (1996) might not be valid today. A 2015 HUD Study shows the following: Between Jan 2010 and January 2015, overall homelessness across the U.S. decreased by 11%. The U.S. saw a 22% decrease in chronic homelessness and a 19% reduction in homelessness among families. http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Homelessness-in-America-HUD-Releases-2015-Homeless-Count-Data-351810021.html

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Apr 3, 2016 10:10:45   #
ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa
 
DASHY wrote:
Maybe for you but certainly not for me. Being able to exercise free will and free choice is what I love about America.


dashy: Try explaining that to someone on Section 8!

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Apr 3, 2016 10:23:26   #
DASHY
 
ldsuttonjr wrote:
dashy: Try explaining that to someone on Section 8!


Section 8 helps people find affordable housing. How does living in a house instead of under a bridge destroy a person's free will? If anything, it will give them more choices.

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Apr 3, 2016 11:54:04   #
ghostgotcha Loc: The Florida swamps
 
DASHY wrote:
Section 8 helps people find affordable housing. How does living in a house instead of under a bridge destroy a person's free will? If anything, it will give them more choices.


You do realize that unless you yourself; are providing room for a homeless person in your own house or out of your own pocket? -- you just reinforced the original post of this thread.

It's ok to admit you want to use money from a Republicans pocket to make you feel good about yourself.

Of, course that too is pathetic and you should be ashamed.



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Apr 3, 2016 12:37:21   #
DASHY
 
ghostgotcha wrote:
You do realize that unless you yourself; are providing room for a homeless person in your own house or out of your own pocket? -- you just reinforced the original post of this thread.

It's ok to admit you want to use money from a Republicans pocket to make you feel good about yourself.

Of, course that too is pathetic and you should be ashamed.



Republican frontrunner Donald Trump spent decades loudly complaining about "homeless veterans" who he considered an eyesore that threatened his precious property values.
He, of course, never served in the Military. His love of the troops appears to be entirely new. In the years prior to running for president, Trump was all about getting rid of the homeless. He didn't want to help them, he just wanted the poor out of his sightline. Republican voters apparently love this shit.

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Apr 3, 2016 14:30:22   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
DASHY wrote:
Republican frontrunner Donald Trump spent decades loudly complaining about "homeless veterans" who he considered an eyesore that threatened his precious property values.
He, of course, never served in the Military. His love of the troops appears to be entirely new. In the years prior to running for president, Trump was all about getting rid of the homeless. He didn't want to help them, he just wanted the poor out of his sightline. Republican voters apparently love this shit.


The type of "shit" that amazes us is how profoundly gullible and stupid that you Marxist Progressives are to believe your own propaganda. You would have been hard core Nazies in pre-WWII Germany and in 1917 Russia part of the Communist revolution. Yes, you're that damn stupid and brainwashed.

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Apr 3, 2016 14:59:00   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
AuntiE wrote:
Considering, of the twenty million, most of the so call insured are, in fact, on Medicaid, getting rid of the ACA would have zero effect. In point of fact, most of these people were eligible for Medicaid and had not applied.


You are correct. Particularly with the expansion of Medicade to cover all those who wished it.
I wish people would stop pretending that Obamacare provides healthcare. It is an insurance plan, and a bad one at that. It is so bad that doctors are quitting in droves. People planning to go to med school have changed their minds, and are going into veterinary medicine, much to the delight of those who want competition in vet care to keep the fees low. Doctors provide health care, insurance companies don't. When will people get that through their heads. If you drive away doctors, nurses, lab technicians and hospital staff, they you will not get healthcare no matter how much you whine and bi**ch about it. Of course the government may assign people to go to med school whether they want to or not. If they refuse it's off to the Gulag for them, or off with their heads.

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Apr 3, 2016 15:11:02   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
ghostgotcha wrote:
You do realize that unless you yourself; are providing room for a homeless person in your own house or out of your own pocket? -- you just reinforced the original post of this thread.

It's ok to admit you want to use money from a Republicans pocket to make you feel good about yourself.

Of, course that too is pathetic and you should be ashamed.


The day may come when we are forced to have strangers living with us, ones that should be in mental institutions. I can't tell you how many people have spent time with us while their furnaces were being repaired, their houses were being cleaned and repaired after fires or floods, or just because they needed someplace to be for a couple of days. Most recently it was a few friends we hadn't met yet who were coming to a funeral for one of their own kin who had been a gospel singer and hundreds came to the funeral. So we, and a dozen others invited them to stay with us for a few days. But that was our choice, not a government mandate As I said, they were friends we hadn't met yet, now they are just friends.

All I can think of is Kafka's "Metamorphasis" where under communism people were required to house strangers in their houses. Now, if they realized they were sharing rooms with a giant cockroach, it might have been a different story. Don't know what I am talking about look up Franz Kafka and the short novella Metamorphasis, worth reading as you try to figure out why you want to live in a communist dictatorship.

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Apr 3, 2016 16:23:33   #
Ike Loc: Minnesota Iron Range
 
ghostgotcha wrote:
Well; In your case it would appear wasted effort for you to try and learn anything out of your preconceived and intent to deny at all costs .

Just pathetic!


That doesn't help me. I repeat, what are we supposed to learn?

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Apr 3, 2016 16:25:40   #
Ike Loc: Minnesota Iron Range
 
DASHY wrote:
One of the things I got is 71% of homeless are in central cities, where affordable housing is hard to find. Another observation is a 20-year old study (1996) might not be valid today. A 2015 HUD Study shows the following: Between Jan 2010 and January 2015, overall homelessness across the U.S. decreased by 11%. The U.S. saw a 22% decrease in chronic homelessness and a 19% reduction in homelessness among families. http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Homelessness-in-America-HUD-Releases-2015-Homeless-Count-Data-351810021.html
One of the things I got is 71% of homeless are in ... (show quote)


Those are hopeful numbers. Probably not something conservatives want to hear.

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Apr 3, 2016 17:32:01   #
ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa
 
DASHY wrote:
Section 8 helps people find affordable housing. How does living in a house instead of under a bridge destroy a person's free will? If anything, it will give them more choices.


Not with my money!!!!!!!

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