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Nov 27, 2013 12:31:25   #
UncleJesse Loc: Hazzard Co, GA
 
Death is the single most significant cause of hypoxia. If death is the end, you'll be no wiser to what happened or have a chance to be disappointed, so why worry? If it's not the end, it will be a

philisophyman wrote:
what are your views on death? here are mine, this is a quote from W.N.P. Barbellion, this quote is how I feel about death, and how we wont know till the end.

"I ask myself: what are my views on death, the next world, God? ... But I hope for something much freer and more satisfying after death, for emancipation of the spirit and above all for the obliteration of this puny self, this little, skulking, sharp-witted ferret."

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Nov 27, 2013 12:41:42   #
PhilosophyMan Loc: Washington state.
 
UncleJesse wrote:
Death is the single most significant cause of hypoxia. If death is the end, you'll be no wiser to what happened or have a chance to be disappointed, so why worry? If it's not the end, it will be a


wow, you may have just enlightened me a little bit there.

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Nov 27, 2013 12:49:38   #
claytonln Loc: Kansas
 
Dragnet wrote:
Very commendable. It would be great if more people did this.

But whose standards are others going to choose? Those of nazi germany,
Stalin's Russia, Mao tung, pol pot. If we believe we came from nothing and then return to nothing, what difference,in the end, will anything we do make?

Someone please tell me.


That part of you that is animated, that makes you who you are. That is the "God" part of you. God made us in his image, he made each of us "creators".

How are we creators? We make choices throughout our lives that creates our realities. Sometimes those choices affect others and sometimes they don't.

It is your choice to believe how you want to, God gave that too you and it can't be taken away. But, how you choose to believe will create a reality for you in some way.

There always has been and always will be different views. What I believe is that the Universe is like a "University" and we are here to learn lessons.

To learn to live with ourselves and each other. I can't control what others views are. I can only choose my way.

I said in another post I treat people the way I want to be treated. I should have added. If they don't treat me with the same respect then I will treat them accordingly.

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Nov 27, 2013 12:54:55   #
bluejacket
 
rumitoid wrote:
Me too.


yes I have been taught that the body is the vessel for the soul , and the vessel is mortal and the soul is immortal and exists forever, and that is what I believe

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Nov 27, 2013 13:02:28   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
bluejacket wrote:
yes I have been taught that the body is the vessel for the soul , and the vessel is mortal and the soul is immortal and exists forever, and that is what I believe


Isn't it something that we think so much alike about life and death and disagree so much about politics? Anyway I think like you about this subject.

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Nov 27, 2013 13:10:12   #
bluejacket
 
oldroy wrote:
Isn't it something that we think so much alike about life and death and disagree so much about politics? Anyway I think like you about this subject.


yes we do think alike on this subject , as this is in the realm of faith , and politics is in the realm of man with all the foibles of man , Saint Cyrill said the problem with the human condition is the human condition

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Nov 27, 2013 14:25:18   #
claytonln Loc: Kansas
 
bluejacket wrote:
yes we do think alike on this subject , as this is in the realm of faith , and politics is in the realm of man with all the foibles of man , Saint Cyrill said the problem with the human condition is the human condition


Politics is the choosing of sides. It really has no place in Government. If there were no party lines, things would be much simpler. The founders warned against party's saying it would cause factions and divide the country.
They were genius.

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Nov 27, 2013 14:33:58   #
bluejacket
 
claytonln wrote:
Politics is the choosing of sides. It really has no place in Government. If there were no party lines, things would be much simpler. The founders warned against party's saying it would cause factions and divide the country.
They were genius.


yes choosing sides is a function of human behavior , and we can't get away from being human , but we do have control of how we interact with each other , for as the conversations become more and more caustic the desire to listen is diminished

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Nov 27, 2013 14:39:38   #
claytonln Loc: Kansas
 
bluejacket wrote:
yes choosing sides is a function of human behavior , and we can't get away from being human , but we do have control of how we interact with each other , for as the conversations become more and more caustic the desire to listen is diminished


Yes, but, god gives us the choice to listen or not. I always listen I just don't always agree. That said it is one's own choice of views and that is fine with me. :lol:

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Nov 27, 2013 20:35:30   #
oldladyfromwaco
 
Personally, I cannot wait....and will welcome it, though I am extremely healthy for a 70 year old woman. I am tired of this world. I do not believe in ANY religion.....strictly fear, ego, and totally negatively based as a political control. Spirituality? That I can handle. I do believe in God and Christ, though am aware that any path to God, no matter what He is called, is valid for the individual believer and condemn no one for their beliefs. Doesn't matter how one gets "there".....just so the trip is made. Don't believe in hell....except here on earth. Heaven? Have experienced it, and that is for what I long.

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Nov 27, 2013 20:44:25   #
Searching Loc: Rural Southwest VA
 
Dragnet wrote:
Why? If we came from nothing, and return to nothing, what difference will it make. Someone can choose to be a "good or evil person". This would depend on whatever the prevailing definition would be (ex: good nazi, or evil infidel or non-Muslim).

According to your belief, when time runs off on everyone, nothing will matter.
No one will even know we were here.

The Truth is Genesis 1:1. And belief and acceptance of God's only begotten son, Jesus Christ is the way to the Father and eternal life. And we will be held accountable for what each one of us thinks, says, and does in this life.
Why? If we came from nothing, and return to nothi... (show quote)


Hey There,

Just wondering if you believe God gave us free will -- to make choices, good or bad? If God gives us free will, then I ponder if part of that free will choice is to either choose Him or not. The Amish believe that if God "allows" something to happen, then they have to forgive the trespasser.

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Nov 27, 2013 20:47:10   #
Searching Loc: Rural Southwest VA
 
oldladyfromwaco wrote:
Personally, I cannot wait....and will welcome it, though I am extremely healthy for a 70 year old woman. I am tired of this world. I do not believe in ANY religion.....strictly fear, ego, and totally negatively based as a political control. Spirituality? That I can handle. I do believe in God and Christ, though am aware that any path to God, no matter what He is called, is valid for the individual believer and condemn no one for their beliefs. Doesn't matter how one gets "there".....just so the trip is made. Don't believe in hell....except here on earth. Heaven? Have experienced it, and that is for what I long.
Personally, I cannot wait....and will welcome it, ... (show quote)


Well, serving on a pastor search committee certainly cured me of any semblance of fondness for organized religion!!

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Nov 28, 2013 06:55:40   #
JPBIII
 
In Genesis God gave us precisely that choice- namely to reject him. Astute comment.

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Nov 28, 2013 07:59:04   #
Searching Loc: Rural Southwest VA
 
oldroy wrote:
Isn't it something that we think so much alike about life and death and disagree so much about politics? Anyway I think like you about this subject.


Had not the will to resist putting my one cent's worth in, but I'm simply amazed at what a difference the change in arena has wrought and quite honestly pleased and relieved to see it. Wow!! Is it remotely possible that if so many of us "get it" on a spiritual level, that there might be a chance to unite in that other arena? I understand that the political arena is a different animal, but I still have hope that the human spirit will somehow prevail and save us from ourselves.

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Nov 28, 2013 09:28:57   #
Searching Loc: Rural Southwest VA
 
JPBIII wrote:
In Genesis God gave us precisely that choice- namely to reject him. Astute comment.


Thanks. Since my father's suicide in 1998 and my mother's simultaneous permanent break from reality, I've had to do some real soul searching and "self-remodeling". To say that this journey has been sometimes extremely difficult is an understatement, but the old saying of "what doesn't kill you makes you stronger" really fits the bill here. I wish the circumstances that brought about change had been different, but I don't question God's wisdom in allowing those circumstances to unfold either.

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