Govt changing Rules to suit themselves, right or wrong
Nov 27, 2013 13:04:16 #
DASHY wrote:
Did you give up any individual rights when you joined a Union shop? A $65.00 increase in premium in three years sounds like a bargain to me.
I never said I gave up anything when I joined the Union. But, I had no choice about it I either joined or I found another job.
Did you find in the constitution where the Government can make us buy anything?
Nov 27, 2013 13:15:42 #
You are quite sad as I have never been a registered republican in my life. Now drive that 2 seater.
DASHY wrote:
Stated like a true Republican: IGM (I got mine).
Nov 27, 2013 13:24:51 #
DASHY wrote:
Did you give up any individual rights when you joined a Union shop? A $65.00 increase in premium in three years sounds like a bargain to me.
Well that 65.00 is on top of whatever the cost was originally. I am not sure what the total cost of that is. But adding anything to it for people on a fixed income isn't very compassionate. At least I don't think so. maybe you have a different view.
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Nov 27, 2013 13:42:31 #
claytonln wrote:
I never said I gave up anything when I joined the Union. But, I had no choice about it I either joined or I found another job.
Did you find in the constitution where the Government can make us buy anything?
Did you find in the constitution where the Government can make us buy anything?
Do you buy auto insurance? How about auto registration? Do you pay real estate tax? How about income tax?
The Constitution was not intended to address each and every law government finds necessary to protect us. You will not find that going through a red light is addressed in the Constitution. If you choose to go through the red light and get caught, however, you will get to pay a penalty. When you joined the Union you had a choice. You gave up the opportunity for a new job to stick with the Union. The same is true of the ACA. You still have a choice. Buy the insurance or pay the penalty. Like the choice to join the union, the ACA insurance requirement might be in your best interests.
Nov 27, 2013 13:44:42 #
bmac32 wrote:
You are quite sad as I have never been a registered republican in my life. Now drive that 2 seater.
You might not be registered, but you sure sound like a Republican spokesman.
Nov 27, 2013 13:54:23 #
Nov 27, 2013 14:02:43 #
DASHY wrote:
Do you buy auto insurance? How about auto registr... (show quote)
First, Auto insurance is not the issue, driving is a privilege. If you choose to drive then you buy auto insurance. That is state to state and is regulated by the states. If you do not drive then you don't have to buy it.
Health insurance should be regulated by the states. The constitution gives no authority to the Federal Government to force anyone to buy anything. period.
The Constitution is the law of the land. It sets the guidelines for all other laws. It even gives guide lines on who has what authority. It does not give the President the authority to make and break law's as he pleases. Not this president or any other.
When he gives these cut outs. He is breaking the law and should be treated as a criminal. That goes for any other president that has done the same.
And your right about one thing. I made the choice to work in a Union shop. I don't regret it, and would make the same choice again if I had too.
Nov 27, 2013 14:14:09 #
Let's recap your statements:
You don't own a house. You don't own a car so you won't be running red lights. You are 63 and don't need pills. Your health insurance is bought and paid for. Lucky YOU. "I GOT MINE"
How about the millions of Americans who are not so fortunate?
You don't own a house. You don't own a car so you won't be running red lights. You are 63 and don't need pills. Your health insurance is bought and paid for. Lucky YOU. "I GOT MINE"
How about the millions of Americans who are not so fortunate?
Nov 27, 2013 14:14:56 #
See there's choice. You joined a union shop and I did not, in my case the union could add nothing other than dues with I felt would look better in my bank account rather than theirs. Democrats don't want choice, it easier to have someone else think.
claytonln wrote:
First, Auto insurance is not the issue, driving is... (show quote)
Nov 27, 2013 14:17:53 #
bmac32 wrote:
See there's choice. You joined a union shop and I did not, in my case the union could add nothing other than dues with I felt would look better in my bank account rather than theirs. Democrats don't want choice, it easier to have someone else think.
I agree. I am about to piss some people off with the Union tho. They make a huge donation to the Democrat party. It comes out of my Union Dues. I am of the understanding that it is an option. I am going to opt out. Getting ready to do that right now.
Nov 27, 2013 14:21:38 #
bmac32 wrote:
See there's choice. You joined a union shop and I did not, in my case the union could add nothing other than dues with I felt would look better in my bank account rather than theirs. Democrats don't want choice, it easier to have someone else think.
That was easy. :thumbup:
Nov 27, 2013 14:21:55 #
The four P's are not my responsibility. (Piss Poor Pryer,Planning)
DASHY wrote:
Let's recap your statements:
You don't own a house. You don't own a car so you won't be running red lights. You are 63 and don't need pills. Your health insurance is bought and paid for. Lucky YOU. "I GOT MINE"
How about the millions of Americans who are not so fortunate?
You don't own a house. You don't own a car so you won't be running red lights. You are 63 and don't need pills. Your health insurance is bought and paid for. Lucky YOU. "I GOT MINE"
How about the millions of Americans who are not so fortunate?
Nov 27, 2013 14:32:08 #
bmac32 wrote:
The four P's are not my responsibility. (Piss Poor Pryer,Planning)
:thumbup: :thumbup:
Nov 27, 2013 14:38:26 #
I have nothing against unions per es but in my case the union could add nothing to what we already had, complete health care (4 plans to choose from) dental (4 plans) eye, only cost was a one time $25.00, 2 week vacation (week added every 5 years), 12 sick days (don't use them get paid them on Dec 1, 401 (you put a buck the put two up to 5% of your pay) now I ask what could a union add?
claytonln wrote:
I agree. I am about to piss some people off with the Union tho. They make a huge donation to the Democrat party. It comes out of my Union Dues. I am of the understanding that it is an option. I am going to opt out. Getting ready to do that right now.
Nov 27, 2013 14:43:28 #
bmac32 wrote:
I have nothing against unions per es but in my case the union could add nothing to what we already had, complete health care (4 plans to choose from) dental (4 plans) eye, only cost was a one time $25.00, 2 week vacation (week added every 5 years), 12 sick days (don't use them get paid them on Dec 1, 401 (you put a buck the put two up to 5% of your pay) now I ask what could a union add?
That sounds pretty much like what I have now. Unions were at one time needed to clean things up. Now that things are cleaned up I am not sure that they are actually needed.
oh, just called. No more donations to Democrats. I had thought about telling them I wanted to change it to Ted Cruz. :P but I was nice. :wink:
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