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Jan 8, 2016 17:26:54   #
Raylan Wolfe Loc: earth
 
Women mostly christians have a choice, those who will perish from global warming do not!



padremike wrote:
R. Wolfe -so what? Your point is? Religious preference has nothing to do with your personal statement on saving humanity thru advocating climate change hysteria while you're perfectly willing to condone the murder of children by the hundreds of millions.

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Jan 8, 2016 17:50:26   #
Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas
 
Raylan Wolfe wrote:
Women mostly christians have a choice, those who will perish from global warming do not!



Keep slurping the global sludge...what are you doing besides posting lies to combat this?? You like China talking a big game without actually playing?

Typical libtard...do what massa says, not what i do.

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Jan 8, 2016 18:43:19   #
mark13 Loc: usa
 
padremike wrote:
R. Wolfe -so what? Your point is? Religious preference has nothing to do with your personal statement on saving humanity thru advocating climate change hysteria while you're perfectly willing to condone the murder of children by the hundreds of millions.


Very good thanks.

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Jan 8, 2016 18:51:49   #
Raylan Wolfe Loc: earth
 
Your welcomed!


mark13 wrote:
Very good thanks.

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Jan 8, 2016 19:10:54   #
Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas
 
Raylan Wolfe wrote:
Your welcomed!




What's the matter turdballer, your thread being a rerun not getting enough pages so you have to resort to childish...i know i am what are you tacticts just for a response....sad woofie, sad.

You never answered, did you get your trailer moved off that public land by the falls? Squatter! Good thing your house is on wheels bro' man

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Jan 8, 2016 20:01:42   #
peter11937 Loc: NYS
 
permafrost wrote:
WEE,

The best I can say for you is that you are mixing the meaning of two differing reports..

The 2500 to 5000, you are good for 8 hrs. Yes, after 8 hrs it will likely kill you.

The 400 figure, this one is saying that the effect on climate may not be reversible...


Actually, people tolerate up to 15,000 ppm of CO2 before they notice anything. At 1200 ppm, a level at which plants do best and at which commercial hothouses are kept for the fantastic p;lant growth it causes, there is no bad effects on the workers, who spend 8 hours daily in that atmosphere.

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Jan 8, 2016 20:12:16   #
peter11937 Loc: NYS
 
permafrost wrote:
WEE,

The best I can say for you is that you are mixing the meaning of two differing reports..

The 2500 to 5000, you are good for 8 hrs. Yes, after 8 hrs it will likely kill you.

The 400 figure, this one is saying that the effect on climate may not be reversible...


The levels you quote will not cause anyone any harm. 400 ppm causes the earth to become more green, makes desertification slow, stop or recede depending on the area.
Crops have already increased as a result to these minor increases. China and India are the ones that are increasing the CO2 more than anyone else. The true pollutants they are also increasing by burning coal and NOT scrubbing them! Coal adds sulfur and photo-chemical smog into the atmosphere and that sickens and kills, CO2 at any limit we can produce produces NO ill effect.

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Jan 8, 2016 20:16:33   #
peter11937 Loc: NYS
 
permafrost wrote:
God damn you are a dense one...

All your points are wrong... first we are dealing on a global stage, your cherry pick local events. And at least some of these are not true..

#6--Moose in Minnesota,,,, They are not coming back. the Wolf had limited effect. Wolves primary pray are white tale deer.
The decline in Moose was parasitic, that remains and is continuing to kill Moose.. the parasites increase is due to climate change... the Wolf season in now stopped, maybe back some years, some not.. It is not and never was the Moose problem...

#5.... Polar bears... not thriving... we still have large numbers but the arctic ice they need for hunting and staying alive is receding and polar bears do not survive well on dry land..

they can cross with brown bears but the off spring is brown..

If nothing changes the polar bear will be extinct..


I other 8 of your points are also incorrect but they have been refuted to you before. I will not bother this evening to do so again...
God damn you are a dense one... br br All your po... (show quote)


In the 1990's Polar Bear pop. was about 5,000, now, with conservation and no hunting policies, they number about 25,000. In some places they are becoming nuisance problems rather than a rare sight.

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Jan 8, 2016 20:37:48   #
peter11937 Loc: NYS
 
Just in case anyone is truly interested in climate:
http://myweb.wwu.edu/dbunny/

and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nq4Bc2WCsdE

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Jan 8, 2016 21:00:06   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
Raylan Wolfe wrote:
Women mostly christians have a choice, those who will perish from global warming do not!
It's true that Muslim women rarely have a choice about anything, but that's not 'most.

Did you mean to imply that Jewish, Athiest, and women of other religions have no choice?

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Jan 8, 2016 21:01:36   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
peter11937 wrote:
In the 1990's Polar Bear pop. was about 5,000, now, with conservation and no hunting policies, they number about 25,000. In some places they are becoming nuisance problems rather than a rare sight.
So, you're saying that when a species increases 5 fold it's not close to extinction?

Clearly you're a science denier...



:hunf:

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Jan 8, 2016 21:03:38   #
Raylan Wolfe Loc: earth
 
Read this instead, you might actually learn something!

Don Easterbrook and Heartlands Big Book of Lies About Climate Change!

http://hot-topic.co.nz/heartlands-big-book-of-lies-about-climate-change-cuts-no-ice-thanks-to-don-easterbrook/

Easterbrook and Heartland are an extreme a right wing propaganda outfit bought and paid for by big oil and climate science deniers!


peter11937 wrote:
Just in case anyone is truly interested in climate:
http://myweb.wwu.edu/dbunny/

and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nq4Bc2WCsdE

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Jan 8, 2016 21:05:56   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
Raylan Wolfe wrote:
Easterbrook and Heartland are an extreme a right wing propaganda outfit bought and paid for by big oil and climate science deniers!


Proof?

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Jan 8, 2016 21:08:05   #
Raylan Wolfe Loc: earth
 
http://hot-topic.co.nz/heartlands-big-book-of-lies-about-climate-change-cuts-no-ice-thanks-to-don-easterbrook/


http://www.skepticalscience.com/don-easterbrook-heartland-distortion-of-reality.html

Super Dave wrote:
Proof?

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Jan 8, 2016 21:32:53   #
peter11937 Loc: NYS
 
Raylan Wolfe wrote:
Read this instead, you might actually learn something!

Don Easterbrook and Heartlands Big Book of Lies About Climate Change!

http://hot-topic.co.nz/heartlands-big-book-of-lies-about-climate-change-cuts-no-ice-thanks-to-don-easterbrook/

Easterbrook and Heartland are an extreme a right wing propaganda outfit bought and paid for by big oil and climate science deniers!


Anyone who thinks that the sun does not drive climate , but a tiny change in a trace gas in the atmosphere is delusional and the real "deniers" in this debate. BTW, what are Gareth's credentials? Where are his appendix of source materials. Since you responded so quickly, you have not had time to read Any of Dr. Easterbrook's homepage, meaning your mind is closed .

http://www.drroyspencer.com/

and there's the actual composition of the atmosphere;
http://www.e-missions.net/msssa/CH4-threepiegraphs.htm

How does 0.033% of the atmosphere drive climate while ignoring the SUN and water vapor 0.04 of the atmosphere when water vapor is about 10 times more effective in the near infra red range if the sun's light, leaving a total of 5% to the balance of all gasses to absorb?

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