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I believe scripture is clear that the entire seven years of tribulation is a matter of Elohim's wrath and that true Christians are not appointed to that time frame on earth.

Let us look at this time frame. It has many names and we will cross reference them:

The Great Tribulation Period | The Second Half of the Tribulation

For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been from the beginning of the world until now, no, and never will be. - Matthew 24:21

But immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light ... - Matthew 24:29

And he said, "These are they who have come out of the great tribulation (Tribulation Saints); they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb." - Revelation 7:14
Note: The final 3.5 years of the 7 are referred to as the Great Tribulation. However, the entire 7 years is known simply as the Tribulation Period.

Daniel's 70th Week

He (Antichrist) will confirm a covenant with many for one week (of years). In the middle of the week he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And at the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation. - Daniel 9:27
Note: Gabriel told Daniel that the 70 weeks are for his (Daniel's) people, who are the Israelites only, not the Church - see Daniel 9:24

The Time of Jacob's Trouble

Alas! For that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacob's trouble. - Jeremiah 30:7
Note: Jacob's name was changed to Israel. It is therefore the time of Israel's trouble - see 2 Kings 17:34

The Day of the Lord / The Day of Wrath

The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and terrible Day of the Lord comes. - Joel 2:31

The great Day of the Lord is near, it is near, and hastens greatly, even the voice of the day of the Lord: the mighty men shall cry there bitterly. That day is a day of wrath (BINGO!), a day of trouble (Jacob's Trouble) and distress, a day of wasteness and desolation. - Zephaniah 1:14-15
Note: The abomination that causes desolation (or lays waste) - see Daniel 9:27 and Matthew 24:15

The Day of the Lord's Wrath

Their silver and their gold will not be able to rescue them on the day of the Lord’s wrath. The whole earth will be consumed by the fire of His jealousy. For He will make a complete, yes, a horrifying end of all the inhabitants of the earth. - Zephaniah 1:18

... and before the fierce wrath of the Lord come upon you, and before the day of the Lord’s anger come upon you. Seek ye the Lord all the meek of the earth, which have wrought his judgment: seek righteousness, seek lowliness, if so be that you may be hidden in the day of the Lord’s wrath. - Zephaniah 2:2-3

Perfectly cross-referenced in the book of Revelation, twice in the very chapter which begins Daniel's 70th week (Chapter 6), we see the people of Earth hiding in caves from the wrath of the Lamb.
... and they say to the mountains and to the rocks, "Fall on us, and hide us from the face of Him that sits on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb, for the great day of His wrath is come; and who is able to stand?" - Revelation 6:16-17

Also Isaiah 2:19 prophesies, They shall go into the holes of the rocks, and into the caves of the earth, from the terror of YHWH, and the glory of His majesty, when He arises to shake the earth mightily.

When does YHWH arise to shake the earth mightily? Isaiah 26:19-21 prophesies that He comes out of his place (Heaven) to do that after the rapture:
Your dead shall live;
Together with my dead body they shall arise.
Awake and sing, you who dwell in dust;
For your dew is like the dew of herbs,
And the earth shall cast out the dead.
Come, my people, enter your chambers,
And shut your doors behind you;
Hide yourself, as it were, for a little moment,
Until the indignation is past.
For behold, YHWH is coming out of His place
To punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity;
The earth will also disclose her blood,
And will no more cover her slain.

So now you can see why no one can convince me that the entire seven years is not the time of YHWH’s wrath and that somehow His wrath starts somewhere in the middle of the seven years.

This final week of seven years which is the Lord's Wrath is not for the church/bride of Christ. We have to be consummating a marriage for those seven years. Jewish wedding tradition holds to the bride and groom hiding away from the public (the world) for a period of seven; one week ... and the Bridegroom is Jewish! It is a Jewish wedding! There is no way around that fact. Mid-tribbers and post-tribbers fail to understand this.

Now The Good News

Of course now that we know that the entire seven years of the Tribulation is YHWH’s wrath, we look at 1 Thessalonians 5:9 where Paul clarifies, God did not intend for us to suffer His wrath (At all. Period. End of discussion.) but rather to possess salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ.

Verse 11 commands us then … Therefore comfort each other and edify one another, just as you also are doing. Why? Because true and faithful believers are not going through the Tribulation period. Is it any comfort to the church when false teachers teach that the church is going to suffer through even one moment of the Tribulation? Remember ... our Messiah did all of our suffering for us - the church is under grace. HalleluYah!

Romans 5:9 states, Much more then, being now justified by His (Messiah’s) blood, shall we be saved from the wrath of God through him.

1 Thessalonians 1:10 states, Wait for His Son from heaven, whom He raised from the dead, even Yahshua who delivers us from the wrath to come.

Messiah, in Revelation 3:10, says, Because you have kept My command to persevere, I also will keep you from the hour of trial which shall come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth.

That was chapter 3, within the picture of the church age. He said this just before the rapture chapter; chapter 4! Come up here!

Lastly, John 3:36 states, He who believes in the Son has everlasting life; and he who does not believe the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him.

May this truth be an encouragement to you, church! (1 Thessalonians 4:18)

Researched by Gary Boyd

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Seven Years of God's Wrath! That's just great. seven years of suffering pain, torture, and misery. I often wonder has there ever been a time when God wasn't furious with his creation? The Lord appears to have a general dislike for the human being. Past floods, earthquakes, hurricanes and let’s not forget the promise of hail of brimstone. He doesn't seem to be gifted to create people that he actually likes. Watching the world news, I can hardly fault Him in this regard. In any event, in spite of being all-powerful and inclined to smite anyone who rubs Him wrong. He seems to be somewhat insecure. The bible states in part, …he is a jealous God. Indeed no doubt, He is jealous of anyone who is given any adulation. So, He wants more than anything to be loved. He craves our love, but in His ham fisted way, He goes about getting it in all the wrong ways. For instance, He tells everyone that if they don't love Him, He will have them tortured for eternity in Hell. Well, any deity with a clue would know this would be a counterproductive approach to currying affection. He clearly needs to get some anger-management between Testaments.