Political survival of the GOP
Nov 17, 2013 22:02:32 #
bluejacket wrote:
no supply side does not work , it facilitates the wealth gap and accelerates the accumulation of wealth at the top
Son, where did you get your views from? Public education no doubt. America has always been about new people rising from the bottom. In Europe you have little class mobility. In the USA, most of our millionaires were self made. On their way up they take many with them.
Even the evil corporations are good. Bitch all you want about them, then buy their stocks and make money. Invest and enjoy, enjoy.
I can cite the Reagan era. I can even cite the Clinton era as capitalism successes. Even the Bush era in totality was pretty damn good. Now look at the numbers for your socialist hero Barak.
I have backed up my words. Now back up your words.
Nov 17, 2013 22:17:42 #
BigMike wrote:
Supply side is not the problem. Corruption is the problem.
in a sense you are right supply side is only part of the problem , corporate control of politics of the country is another aspect of what is wrong
Nov 17, 2013 22:34:32 #
bluejacket wrote:
in a sense you are right supply side is only part of the problem , corporate control of politics of the country is another aspect of what is wrong
Corporate control? What is that? For 5 years Democrats have run things. I don't care about corporate control. I care about crony capital control. The thing about corporations that keeps them under control is that they have to compete with one another.
Under your socialist leader we have corporations who can buy their way into power. That gives them advantage over the good corporations. The evil corporations who screwed up your buddy's stupid website seem to have had connections in high places if you catch my drift. I find it all funny as hell. As funny as other cronies with high connections all benefiting from green subsidies before going bankrupt. I pray that is the corporate control you meant, but I really, really doubt it.
Nov 17, 2013 23:21:03 #
son of witless wrote:
Corporate control? What is that? For 5 years Democ... (show quote)
Obama is no more a socialist than Bush was a fascist , but the corporate control was the same , so clean up your rhetoric and get to the basics, you bandy around words that you have little or no understanding of
Nov 18, 2013 02:38:53 #
bluejacket wrote:
in a sense you are right supply side is only part of the problem , corporate control of politics of the country is another aspect of what is wrong
I repeat, supply side is NOT the problem. Corruption, on the part of business AND politicians is the problem.
Nov 18, 2013 07:57:10 #
BigMike wrote:
I repeat, supply side is NOT the problem. Corruption, on the part of business AND politicians is the problem.
how can supply side not be part of the problem as it is a mechanism to shifting wealth to the top of the ladder and deterring wealth accumulation for the lower economic levels
Nov 18, 2013 17:43:34 #
bluejacket wrote:
Obama is no more a socialist than Bush was a fascist , but the corporate control was the same , so clean up your rhetoric and get to the basics, you bandy around words that you have little or no understanding of
Clean up my rhetoric? Hmmmm ! How to get through to you?
Okay, forget about corporate, socialist, and fascist.
You sound as if you are educated. Have you ever heard of Patronage? It basically means crony capitalism. You are right that Obama is not a classic Socialist. His " Rhetoric " is for the unwashed masses who swallow that class warfare schtick. He gives them bread and circuses to keep them in line . but does not want them movin on up to the East Side. (References to Rome and the Jeffersons.)
Your guy practices Patronage. He scares the rich with taxes and his street mobs. Then he cuts deals with the rich who are on his side. Government contracts for political contributions. It's the " Chicago Way ". The rich who don't pay up to this protection racket get attacked and screwed.
Nov 18, 2013 18:00:13 #
son of witless wrote:
Clean up my rhetoric? Hmmmm ! How to get through t... (show quote)
the only street mobs I see are the teaparty and the gun nuts that intimidate people who are gathered to talk about gun issues , the only street mobs are mostly on the extreme right
Nov 19, 2013 21:35:21 #
bluejacket wrote:
the only street mobs I see are the teaparty and the gun nuts that intimidate people who are gathered to talk about gun issues , the only street mobs are mostly on the extreme right
You have a selective memory. Yes, quite selective Sir. Give me examples of Tea Party street mobs. I bet you can't. Tea Party rallies have been models of public discourse. Models! They leave the spaces even cleaner than they found them. The most peaceable protesters in the known universe.
Compare that to the pigs who took over public spaces, camped out for weeks in squalor, caused thousands of dollars in clean up costs, and failed to prevent rapes with in their stinking camps. Ever hear of OWS?
Those aren't even the street mobs I meant. I meant in the spring of 2010 mobs of leftists in the hundreds would show up at the homes of targeted bank officials. At their homes!
Yes Sir, you have a very very selective memory.
Nov 19, 2013 22:48:31 #
bluejacket wrote:
how can supply side not be part of the problem as it is a mechanism to shifting wealth to the top of the ladder and deterring wealth accumulation for the lower economic levels
Corrupt people corrupt the mechanism. There is nothing inherently wrong with supply side economics.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supply-side_economics
Nov 19, 2013 22:50:46 #
bluejacket wrote:
the only street mobs I see are the teaparty and the gun nuts that intimidate people who are gathered to talk about gun issues , the only street mobs are mostly on the extreme right
Tea Party mobs? Haven't seen any reporting of that on CNN. I think you're exaggerating.
Nov 19, 2013 22:53:07 #
Mom8052 wrote:
Witless, the Democratic Party with the help of Obama is taking the citizens of our great nation into proverty. I am a Democrat, wishing to hell that my party would straighten up and realize that their agenda will make the US into a slave nation. Taxation without representation. This is just really pissing me off.
Is this your first glimpse at socialism? If you let this continue,you well not like it at all.
Nov 19, 2013 22:56:53 #
LAwrence wrote:
As a bible believing Christian I have learned down... (show quote)
Is that what you do when your kids misbehave? Run away?
Do you ever tell them what you don't like about what they are doing? Or are you just picking up your ball and going home, a sore loser.
Nov 19, 2013 23:06:00 #
son of witless wrote:
A rising tide lifts all boats. Supply side economi... (show quote)
Well, we know for sure that socialism does not work, Even China has modified their program to be more progressive. (Whatever that means,) To me progressive means going in the wrong direction, making progress hurriedly to destruction.
I am sure someone will have a different definition,
Nov 19, 2013 23:15:23 #
BigMike wrote:
Tea Party mobs? Haven't seen any reporting of that on CNN. I think you're exaggerating.
I cannot understand the animosity toward the people that want to return this government to common sense and parity. It seems that those deriding the Tea Party, are those that fear their strangle hold on sense is loosening. This country does not want a central all controlling meat head committee controlling everything we think and do. I believe our strength as a country lies in the working man and the individual members of common interest. Not in the HoiPoloi of privileged nincompoops.
Some of us were not brain washed in the secular progressive class rooms of the sixties. But we were educated in the pure sensible history and promise of this country. We still want that kind of country. We do not want socialism, communism, Atheism, or evolution. We believe in God, Patriotism, and Charity. Not taxation restriction and distrust. WE need to clear out this conclave of idiots with the next vote.
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