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12/03/2015 San Bernardino Shooters Unknown - Here Are Some Past Mass Shooters. Mostly white men ???

http://www.truthrevolt.org/commentary/coulter-san-bernardino-shooters-unknown-here-are-some-past-mass-shooters

The San Bernardino shooting has just happened and the shooters are unknown, but in response to Robert Dear Jr.'s murder of three people at a Colorado Springs shopping mall last week, The New York Times exulted:

"Even as politicians and those in Congress pump up public fears at the supposed threat of refugees fleeing Syria, every day in America people -- mostly white men -- are walking into movie theaters, restaurants, churches, grade schools and health care centers armed to the teeth, determined to take as many people out as they can."


Mostly white men???

I know it didn't happen here, but is the Times really going to ignore the murder of 130 people in Paris two weeks ago?

Here at home, an Oregon Community College was shot up in October --

By a mixed-race, half-black immigrant, Chris Harper-Mercer.

Nine people were killed.

It's hard to remember every sensational crime, but that was just two months ago.

Last year, another mixed-race immigrant, Elliot Rodger, committed mass murder at a sunny college campus in Santa Barbara, killing twice as many people as Robert Dear did -- in half the time!

That seemed like a pretty big story to me, but the media passed over it pretty quickly. The Times has airbrushed it from history.

In 2013, two Chechen immigrants -- also allegedly fleeing persecution -- blew up the Boston Marathon.

In 2012, Haitian immigrant Kesler Dufrene murdered as many people in Miami as Robert Dear did in Colorado Springs.

One of Dufrene's victims was a 15-year-old girl. Dufrene had already been convicted of a felony in the United States, so he should have been deported, but our "Deporter in Chief" Obama had blocked his return to Haiti.

As the murdered girl's mother said, "Because of immigration, my daughter is not alive."

Have you ever heard of Dufrene? I don't think his murders got as much press as the "Planned Parenthood" shooting.

I'm sure you've heard of Jared Loughner. But have you ever heard of Eduardo Sencion?

In 2011, nine months after Loughner's shooting spree in Tucson, Arizona, Sencion, a Mexican immigrant, shot up a Carson City, Nevada, IHOP, killing four Americans, including three National Guardsmen and a 67-year old woman.

Eduardo was a Mexican immigrant.

The Times ran two stories on his mass murder -- on Pages 17 and 18. By contrast, Loughner's shooting got dozens of write-ups in the Times, including at least three front-page articles, three editorials and 10 op-eds.

The media are tickled pink whenever they have a white perpetrator because it happens so rarely in a country that is majority white.

In 2009 -- the same year that model second-generation immigrant Nidal Malik Hasan murdered 13 soldiers at Fort Hood -- model first-generation Vietnamese immigrant Jiverly Wong shot and killed 13 people in Binghamton, New York, because he was upset that people disrespected his English skills.

Who holds the record for the deadliest shooting by a single gunman in U.S. history, you ask?

That would be Korean immigrant, Seung-Hui Cho, with 32 murders in a matter of hours at Virginia Tech in 2007.

The Times cheered anti-gun advocate Carolyn McCarthy's election to Congress, but today, the paper seems to have forgotten the event that propelled her there:

The 1993 Long Island Railroad massacre that left six passengers dead, including McCarthy's husband.

That mass shooting was committed by a Jamaican immigrant, Colin Ferguson.

It hasn't even been a week, and the Times has already run more than a dozen articles on the shooting at a Colorado Springs shopping mall.

Hey -- everybody remember the wall-to-wall coverage of the mass shooting at a Salt Lake City shopping mall in 2007?

Five people were killed.

Here's a clue:

Two days after the attack, the Times ran an article titled, "Anti-Bosnian Backlash Is Feared in Utah."

(The killer:Bosnian immigrant Sulejman Talovic.)

After Mexican immigrant Salvador Tapia slaughtered six employees at the Windy City Core Supply warehouse in Chicago in 2003, the Times plastered the story all over -- one article on Page 14 of the late edition.

The Washington Post also ran one.

The media use their own lack of coverage as proof that mass murder by non-whites almost never happens.

It's exactly what they're doing to Donald Trump over his claim that a lot of Muslims celebrated the 9/11 attack.

At the time, normal people were enraged that the media refused to cover the Muslim reaction to 9/11, all while lavishing endless column inches on a non-existent "backlash" against Muslims.

But now these journalist-referees turn around and insist that the only acceptable proof that Muslims cheered the 9/11 attack is the existence of the very media coverage that they obstinately refused to provide.

There's a reason most people trust their own recollections over media reports.

After 20 years of nearly non-stop mass murder by non-white immigrants in a country that is still majority white, our media have the audacity to claim that tens of thousands of Syrian Muslims are less dangerous than the most pacific human beings in world history:

21st-century white American men.

bobebgtime Loc: Virginia

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Tasine Loc: Southwest US

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The mania within the ranks of the political left is indeed hard to stomach. I have to wonder if they KNOW they are insane, or have they deluded themselves to actually believe that up is down, good is bad, tall is short, heavy is light. There MUST be someone in some major media with some clout who has at least a modicum of sanity left.

I don't believe they are insane in the truest sense of the word. I DO BELIEVE they are desperately trying to hold on to the left's agenda of overthrowing the nation until they have all of us so addled that we cannot compete with them. How very stupid they are. Their drivel merely makes conservatives double down and wait for the BEST TIME to stop them cold. When the public FINALLY does something about the mess, I suspect we will have to straighten out the republicans as well as the democrats. The RNC is riddled with too many of the same caliber jerks as the DNC, and when house cleaning is done, it hasn't been done well if it leaves trash in the living room.

mark13 Loc: usa

Free citizens require the government …
Not to infringe on my natural right to own, possess, and go about armed as I believe necessary; which is the 'soul' purpose, function, and operation of Amendment II = to keep me armed in free exercise of my natural right.
I Directly oppose your disarmed citizen collectivist police state which, globally, since 1915, has been murdering an average of + 1,200,000 disarmed citizens per year... you will notice, that has not and does not happen in America because the general public is at least somewhat armed [inadequately privately armed, defines as unconstitutionally under armed, armored, and free of state surveillance, regulation, and public record keeping].
If you collectivist’s toadies actually cared about violence = the violent death rate in America you would go after the Medical profession which, through malpractice : negligence, murders + 100,000 men - women - children per year and cripples about 3 x as many citizens... so, as everyone can now see, your gun violence and harm is another made up collectivist fraud in line with all your frauds to wreck America = the rule of law, “securing life, liberty, and domestic tranquility to ourselves and our posterity” which totally leaves out aliens and illegal aliens by stipulation.
Malpractice is the one true MAJOR + Meaningful threats to public to the public safety and the lives of American citizens... you collectivists just want to disarm the American citizen so your looting thug collectivist masters have free ‘reign’ to rob us : suppress the public while selling American citizens and our American country out to your alien, illegal alien, and terrorist henchmen.
Actual Public Safety in a free society requires these things :
1. make it unlawful for any gun control advocate to go or be anywhere that is a security area - to hire or have hired for her or his people any style of security personnel or systems - to own, possess, touch, or use any weapon for any reason... each violation is a felony 366 consecutive days hard time, no time served, overworked court appointed public defender, directed defense, directed verdict, chain jury, summary judgment with succeeding 366 days compulsory restorative service, buttressed by full civil forfeiture... just like you anti-gun collectivists do to us.
2. arrest every elective, appointive, administrator government employee for aiding and abetting the gangs and various terrorists in committing the majority of gun and explosive violence in America... each violation is a felony 366 consecutive days hard time, no time served, overworked court appointed public defender, directed defense, directed verdict, chain jury, summary judgment with succeeding 366 days compulsory restorative service, buttressed by full civil forfeiture... just like you anti-gun collectivists do to us.
3. attempted disarmament of the citizens of the Republic through the collectivist constructive frauds that are self-nominated as gun control - ending gun violence - public safety [and all related charges through malicious prosecution and denial of due process through simulations of legal process] ...each violation is a felony 366 consecutive days hard time, no time served, overworked court appointed public defender, directed defense, directed verdict, chain jury, summary judgment with succeeding 366 days compulsory restorative service, buttressed by full civil forfeiture... just like you anti-gun collectivists do to us.
Now, the above criminal laws, when enacted and enforced, will create a relatively secure society that is totally free from the whims of the current collectivist thug looters [and their lackeys like you] who spend their time being victims of their own delusions so can they feel justified in hating US, lying to and cheating US, and hating our wonderful America to destruction for what they perceive as their personal [UNJUST] political gain and personal [UNJUST] enrichment.
After Ca muslim terrorist shootings 1215 04.

Doc110 Loc: York PA

Homicide Rates Cut In Half Over Past 20 Years (While New Gun Ownership Soared)
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-01/homicide-rates-cut-half-over-past-20-years-while-new-gun-ownership-soared

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12/04/2015 Americans Have Never Tried To Buy So Many Guns In November... Ever

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-12-04/americans-have-never-tried-buy-so-many-guns-november-ever

Two things happened after the most recent widely publicized US mass shootings/domestic terrorism acts: 1) Obama once again made a concerted effort to push for gun-control, and 2) gun sales soared to record highs for November most likely in response to i).

As we reported in September, citing the FT, "gun sales this year could surpass the record set in 2013, when gun purchases surged after the December 2012 Sandy Hook murders."

Gun Sales Soar After Surge In US Mass Shootings
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-10-05/gun-sales-soar-after-surge-us-mass-shootings

And given that Black Friday background checks broke all previous records, it appears we are well on our way.

The One Record That Was Broken On Black Friday That Mainstream Media Will Not Be Excited About
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-12-02/one-record-was-broken-black-friday-mainstream-media-will-not-be-excited-about

... the calls for tighter gun laws lead to an increase in weapons sales. “Once the public hears the president on the news say we need more gun controls, it tends to drive sales,” said Mr Hyatt, who owns one of the largest gun retailers in the US.

“People think, if I don’t get a gun now, it might be difficult to get one in the future. The store is crowded.”
 
"We don’t want our business to be based on tragedy but we have to deal with what we have no control over,” Mr Hyatt said.

“And after these shootings and then the calls for tougher gun laws, we see a buying rush.”
This is not surprising: as Wired noted back in 2013, sharp spikes in gun sales usually following mass shootings for several reasons.


How Come Gun Sales Spike After Mass Shootings?
http://www.thewire.com/national/2012/07/how-come-gun-sales-spike-after-mass-shootings/54961/

The desire to protect one's self In many cases, gun shootings followed by 24/7 media coverage prompt citizens to arm themselves, according to testimonies.

In Aurora, for instance, Jake Meyers of Rocky Mountain Guns and Ammo told The Post shoppers cited self-protection when checking out new weapons.

"A lot of it is people saying, 'I didn't think I needed a gun, but now I do,' " Meyers said. "When it happens in your backyard, people start reassessing — 'Hey, I go to the movies.'"
 
The fear of stricter gun laws Another logical factor is that gun owners' or soon-to-be-gun owners' sense a tide of gun control regulations following a massacre and seek to purchase guns ahead of fast-moving laws.

Paul Helmke, president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, spoke to this following a 60 percent uptick in gun sales in the aftermath of the Tucson shootings in 2011.

"Some Americans fear tougher gun control laws in the aftermath of Saturday’s attack so they want to stock up now," he told Politico.

“What it shows is maybe gun owners in Arizona and these other states feel that there’s going to be some change in the law, which is what I hope our elected officials” trying to enact.

Obviously, that fear has been unfounded.

Since coming into office, Obama has been virtually silent on the issue of gun control, despite the protestations of liberals.
 
The feeling of uncertainty It's important to remember, spikes in guns sales don't just coincide with shooting sprees. They also coincide with violent events of any kind, as Fredrick Kunkle at The Washington Post reported.

"People also rushed to buy guns after the 1992 riots in Los Angeles and the breakdown of order in New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina."

That has led some industry experts and law enforcement officials to point to a general feeling of uncertainty as a driver of gun buying habits.

"People often buy firearms during periods of uncertainty," Gary Kleck, a researcher at Florida State University's College of Criminology and Criminal Justice, told the paper.

Which brings us to today when in the latest FBI background check data - a proxy for total gun sales in the United States as most gun purchases require a background check - we find that, as expected, Obama's latest threat to implement stricter gun controls backfired once more, and the month of November saw a record number of background checks.

 
As Free Beacon previously noted:
Gun Sales Set Record for Sixth Month in a Row. ’Summer of the gun’ continues into the fall
http://freebeacon.com/issues/gun-sales-set-record-for-sixth-month-in-a-row/


Gun rights activists have pointed to Democrats’ calls for new gun control measures as one reason why gun sales have increased. Democratic frontrunner Hillary Clinton has said that the Supreme Court is wrong on the Second Amendment, that Australian style mandatory gun buybacks should be considered in the United States, and that she would implement new gun control through executive action.
 
“Barrack Obama and Hillary Clinton are the best gun salespeople on the planet. The more they scream for new gun control laws the more guns walk off the shelves at gun stores,” said Alan Gottlieb, the head of the Second Amendment Foundation.

“To quote the lyrics of Peter, Paul and Mary, ‘When will they ever learn, when will they ever learn.’”

The biggest irony, however, as we reported previously, is that "homicide rates have been cut in half over past 20 years as new gun ownership soared.”

Homicide Rates Cut In Half Over Past 20 Years (While New Gun Ownership Soared)
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-01/homicide-rates-cut-half-over-past-20-years-while-new-gun-ownership-soared
 
So thanks Obama: courtesy of your inept approach to resolving every social issue not to mention your naive, recurring attempts to uproot the Second Amendment, you are making the US safer one teleprompted, faux-emotional speech at a time.

Granted, everyone knows that was not your intention, but the public will take whatever it can.
 
So what changed?

Why did Americans suddenly start getting more interested in guns in and around the end of 2008?

They know what's coming.....the agenda rolls on.....
http://beforeitsnews.com/conspiracy-theories/2015/12/road-to-ww3-time-to-take-another-look-at-the-un-agenda-2030-2472762.html

Americans Have Never Tried To Buy So Many Guns In November... Ever
Maybe it is my fault?  I sure hope so!
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-12-04/americans-have-never-tried-buy-so-many-guns-november-ever

The desire to protect one's self In many cases, gun shootings followed by 24/7 media coverage prompt citizens to arm themselves, according to testimonies. In Aurora, for instance, Jake Meyers of Rocky Mountain Guns and Ammo told The Post shoppers cited self-protection when checking out new weapons.

"A lot of it is people saying, 'I didn't think I needed a gun, but now I do,' " Meyers said. "When it happens in your backyard, people start reassessing — 'Hey, I go to the movies.’"

Guide for Learning to Use a Sidearm to Defend Yourself, Your Loved Ones, and Your Property, Should a Race War Break Out

The feeling of uncertainty It's important to remember, spikes in guns sales don't just coincide with shooting sprees. They also coincide with violent events of any kind, as Fredrick Kunkle at The Washington Post reported.

"People also rushed to buy guns after the 1992 riots in Los Angeles and the breakdown of order in New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina."

That has led some industry experts and law enforcement officials to point to a general feeling of uncertainty as a driver of gun buying habits.

"People often buy firearms during periods of uncertainty," Gary Kleck, a researcher at Florida State University's College of Criminology... 

Questions to assist in creating a working inventory of mind, body, and equipment for living in dangerous or uncertain times

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-02-18/questions-assist-creating-working-inventory-mind-body-and-equipment-living-dangerous

Tasine Loc: Southwest US

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Great info, Doc, which the left will say is lies, lies, and more lies. They cannot do logic, Doc. They are stuck on stupid and can't seem to break free. Doesn't change the fact that the above info is true and exactly on target.

Doc110 Loc: York PA

Here is the answer, for the secular Atheist Liberal . . . . .

12/03/2015 God is Not Going to Stop Mass Shootings
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/rhetoricraceandreligion/2015/12/god-is-not-going-to-stop-mass-shootings.html?

Published in the wake of the deadly shooting that shook San Bernardino, California, a New York Daily News headline blared:

“GOD ISN’T FIXING THIS”!

GOP presidential candidates offer prayers — not solutions on gun control — after San Bernardino massacre
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/gop-candidates-call-prayers-calf-massacre-article-1.2453261

“This” refers to the gun violence that has become all too normal in our country. In fact, the massacre in San Bernardino marks the 355th mass shooting in the U.S. this year.

Many were offended by the Daily News and offered typical rebuttals: “God is still in control,” “Prayer still works,” and “This nation needs to turn to God.”

But the headline is right: God is not going to stop mass shootings. And the notion that God is, is partially what’s wrong with Christianity in America.

Even if your eschatological view is that Jesus is coming back one day to reconcile the world to God and heal humanity’s brokenness, there is no reason that such a view should lead you to inaction over today’s problems.

As Christians gripped by the radical love of God, we are not to sit on the sidelines of complacency as we hide behind empty theological platitudes, we are called to bring about in the existential what we say we believe is waiting for us in the eschatological.

Christianity is an opportunity to become God’s hands, feet and heart in the world. It’s not an abdication of moral and social responsibility. Dr. King said it best:

“To expect God to do everything while man does nothing is not faith but superstition.”

An important part of creating a better world is REJECTING the misguided notion that we should not even try to foster social change because it is God’s job not ours.

No, Christianity should not cripple our impulse to improve society, but properly understood, it should enlarge our imagination about transforming the world—even when solutions aren’t clear.

In A Passion for the Possible, William Sloane Coffin mused: “Imagination is more important than knowledge. It is not enough to analyze the world as it is and ask, ‘Why?’;

We need to imagine the world as it might be and ask, ‘Why not?’ ”

To be fair, most Christians who subscribe to the “God is going to fix this” ideology would say they are in fact trying to change the world—but by transforming one heart at a time.

The problem with this view is it overlooks the fact that evil exists in the world, in culture and in structures apart from the individual and often shapes the way a person thinks and behaves—even when that person belongs to the church.

This prophetic translation of Ephesians 6:12 sharpens my point:

“For we wrestle not against flesh and blood [people trapped within and impacted by unjust systems], but against principalities [patriarchy, misogyny and heteronormativity], against powers [racism, sexism and homophobia], against the rulers of the darkness of this world [structural inequality and systematic oppression], against spiritual wickedness in high places [Empire].”

Indeed.

That is why we cannot abdicate our responsibility to transform social systems, which includes a culture of violence and near sacrosanct fascination with guns.

If the Christian faith isn’t about repairing the world—or even the possibility of doing so—it isn’t about much of anything.


Social sickness must be opposed by what John Wesley called social grace which, though performed by human hands, is empowered by God’s actions.

Accepting the fact that God is not going to fix the gun problem or the many of the other ills that plaque our society is not a rejection of God or a lack of trust in God’s providential care.

Rather, it is a rejection of the ideology of empire. Indeed, empire wants us to wait on God because it leaves the powerful in control of the world as is.

The prophet Micah rebukes this attitude and calls us to action: “He has told you, O man, what is good;

And what does the Lord require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?”

It’s time we realized that if God is going to fix anything on the earth—it will ONLY be through us.

After praying, I suggest you roll up your sleeves.

Tasine Loc: Southwest US

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ALL true Christians, and most of us who are not Christians but strongly believe in our Creator, God, KNOW that God works through us. This is why we are here, for goodness' sake, to do what needs doing. That which we cannot do, God may or may not choose to do Himself. But, in my view, we get first crack at most issues.

reconreb Loc: America / Inglis Fla.

right on Doc,, Hoka hey!!