Another French false flag? (Page 4): "Since we now know the Charlie Hebdo attack was a Gladio 2 false flag by the usual suspects (NATO hardliners and Zionists), can we safely make the...

lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas

payne1000 wrote:

"Since we now know the Charlie Hebdo attack was a Gladio 2 false flag by the usual suspects (NATO hardliners and Zionists), can we safely make the same assumption about these new Friday the 13th Paris atrocities?

I think we can. Almost every really big, spectacular terror attack turns out, after extensive critical examination, to have been the usual state-sponsored false-flag stuff. There is no reason to think this one will be any different.

The first question, as always, is: Who gains? And the answer, as always, is: Authoritarian insiders. Zionists. Militarists. Islamophobes. New World Order-Out-Of-Chaos freaks.

Speaking of which, the order-out-of-chaos thing is going into overdrive. Between the destruction of several Middle Eastern countries, refugees flooding Europe, preparations for World War III vs. Russia and China, and ongoing false flag terror, it seems the creative destruction people are staying busy.

The authorities will surely use these new attacks in the same way they used Charlie Hebdo: As an excuse to shut down critical thinking and dissent. They may even try to prevent me from returning to Paris on December 11th to present a paper exposing the Charlie Hebdo false flag at a mainstream academic conference.

After all, I was already prevented once from entering Canada to give a talk on We Are NOT Charlie Hebdo: Free Thinkers Question the French 9/11. Frances president Hollande has attacked Charlie Hebdo conspiracy theorists in harsh terms, and his think tank, the Jean Jaurés Institute, named me as one of the worlds top five conspiracy intellectuals to watch out for.

If I were a truly paranoid conspiracy theorist, or conspiracy intellectual, or whatever, I would think somebody staged these new attacks just as I was leaving Paris and planning to return one month later becausewell, because theyre afraid that my book We Are NOT Charlie Hebdo is picking up steam and threatening to expose the state-sponsored crimes of last January. According to this paranoid interpretation, the Charlie Hebdo high perps are fleeing forward into even bigger chaos and an even bigger crackdown on freedomespecially the freedom to seek the truth about false flag terror.

This new attack may throw a monkey wrench into my efforts to get We Are NOT Charlie Hebdo translated into Frenchwhich was one of my items of business in Paris.

It may also impede efforts to save Mohamed Boutiche, a witness to the fact that the Kouachi brothers, the designated Charlie Hebdo patsies, were intelligence assets. I just got word that Boutiche has been jailed and will be audited for trial on November 23rd. The authorities will undoubtedly use the new wave of terror hysteria to try to railroad Boutiche and keep a lid on his Charlie Hebdo revelations.

And lets not forget that the EU just instituted mandatory labeling of products from the Occupied Territories; the Zionists are throwing a gargantuan hissy-fitjust like right before the Charlie Hebdo attacks. Beware of Zionists throwing hissy-fits.

So the least that can be said is that the timing seems extremely suspicious.

Then again, maybe its all just coincidence. Maybe this is an actual attack by angry Muslims. Maybe there is no state sponsorship. Maybe this time, for once, it actually ISNT a false flag.

But what would radical Muslims gain? Its already being blamed on ISIS; yet that makes no sense, since Russia, not France, is fighting ISIS in Syria. And ISIS, of course, is a fabricated synthetic-terror group, not a real Muslim group, anyway.

To believe the official Muslims did it stories of the big terror attacks starting with 9/11, youd have to think of the ostensible Muslim perps as complete idiots, utterly incapable of strategic thinking, desperate to hand the Zionist neocons exactly the kind of PR they want.

Sure, there are undoubtedly some stupid angry Muslims out there. But theyre likely to be patsies, not orchestrators.

So although its too early to say for sure, I think we can tentatively assume that this Friday the 13th massacre in Paris is just the latest in a long series of false-flag spectacles. And if we let the perps get away with this one, as theyve gotten away with all the others, we can expect more of the same."

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/11/13/charlie2/

i "Since we now know the Charlie Hebdo attac... (show quote)

We don't yet know for certain WHO was behind the attacks, or what reason they might have had. It is sheer speculation, based on fear, that this was ISIS sponsored or inspired.

Anyone can claim responsibility for anything. There are usually a number of groups trying to take credit - because it's cheap advertising - but determining who is ACTUALLY responsible is nigh on impossible - when all the "terrorists" are dead.

My wife, who is not a conspiracy buff and makes fun of me often when I say such things - believes that the Paris attacks were actually orchestrated (by whoever) to get the US and allies into a full scale war in the Middle East. She doesn't fear terrorists - as much as she fears going to war with them.

JMHO Loc: Utah

lpnmajor wrote:

We don't yet know for certain WHO was behind the a... (show quote)

Little green men are behind the attacks.

payne1000

JMHO wrote:

Well, stop posting nonsensical bullshit then!

You haven't explained to readers why you think it is bullshit. Can you do that?

payne1000

lpnmajor wrote:

We don't yet know for certain WHO was behind the a... (show quote)

ISIS wouldn't logically attack France. It's Russia who's bombing ISIS.
Israel has many reasons to set up this false flag operation. Israel has hired Muslim terrorists to do their dirty work before as they did with the Achille Lauro hijacking. Israel also hired Egyptians to blow up American embassy buildings in Egypt in 1954 (the Lavon Affair). There is much evidence against Israel in the 9/11 false flag event.

1. Zionist Larry Silverstein leased the World Trade Towers only weeks before the attacks. He insured them for terrorist attacks and attempted to collect double claiming there were two attacks.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Silverstein

2. Silverstein collected over $4 billion in insurance payments on an investment of less than $120 million.
http://911review.com/attack/wtc/index.html

3. Silverstein normally had breakfast every day in a restaurant at the top of one of the towers. His son and daughter also worked in one of the towers. All three found reasons not to go to work on 9/11. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gm0PxzdHhPc

4. Silverstein said in a PBS filmed interview that he and the NYC fire dept decided to "pull" building 7 on the afternoon of 9/11. Wiring for explosive demolition takes weeks if not months. Why would the building which offices CIA, Secret Service, Guiliani's Office of Emergency Management and IRS be pre-wired for demolition? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p34XrI2Fm6I

Silverstein refuses to identify the fire chief he claims he talked to about "pulling" the building.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p34XrI2Fm6I

5. Silverstein was close friends with Ariel Sharon, Bibi Netanyahu and Ehud Barack.
http://iamthewitness.com/haaretzdaily-Up-in-smoke.html
http://whatreallyhappened.com/content/larry-silverstein-was-close-friends-netanyahu-sharon-barak
http://wikispooks.com/wiki/9/11:Israel_did_it

6. Five Israelis were arrested after filming and celebrating the towers coming down. FBI interrogation revealed they were Mossad agents. They were deported and one of them later said in a TV interview that they were there to film the event. Therefore, they knew well ahead of time that it was going to happen. http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=123885
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRfhUezbKLw

7. Hundreds of Israeli spies were rounded up and deported right after 9/11. Many of them were posing as art students in the area where the alleged hijackers were training in Florida.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbkQddEDPs0

8. $2.3 trillion was announced missing from Pentagon accounting while Bush appointee Dov Zakheim was in charge of Pentagon accounting. The missing funds were announced by Donald Rumsfeld the day before 9/11 and totally forgotten in the turmoil after 9/11.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVpSBUgbxBU

9. Dov Zakheim is a Zionist and a dual U.S./Israel citizen. Before being appointed Pentagon CFO, Zakheim was CEO of SPS International, part of System Planning Corporation, a defense contractor majoring in electronic warfare technologies, including remote-controlled aircraft systems, and the notorious Flight Termination System (FTS) technology that could hijack even a hijacked plane and land or crash it wherever.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXLmAiNYRoE

10. Zakheim sent 32 767s to Florida in 2001 to be converted to refueling tankers. 767s are the same type planes that hit Towers I and II.
http://911review.org/brad.com/batcave/Dov_Zakheim_911.html
http://www.dailypaul.com/153527/dov-zakheim-and-911-from-freedom-of-information-act-request

11. Many of the members of PNAC who signed the letter describing the need for a new Pearl Harbor were Zionists including Dov Zakheim, Paul Wolfowitz, Donald Rumsfeld, Elliot Abrams, Scooter Libby and William Kristol.
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/us_ints/nc-pilger.html

12. Zim American Israel Shipping, half owned by Israel, moved out of one of the Trade Towers two weeks before the attacks, forfeiting $50,000 on their lease.
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/02/21/zim-shipping-evidence-they-knew-911-was-coming/

13. Odigo, an Israeli company with offices in one of the towers received warnings to stay away on 9/11.
http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/odigo-says-workers-were-warned-of-attack-1.70579

14. Jewish-controlled mainstream media covered up the fact that the towers were blown up. All MSM news censored all the news reports that were shown on TV that day reporting bombs going off in all three towers. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UKfzGt6Fxk

15. General Wesley Clark says Zionist Neocons took control of America's foreign policy in a coup made possible by 9/11. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oJUnG3Z6WI
Israel has the motive

JMHO Loc: Utah

payne1000 wrote:

You haven't explained to readers why you think it is bullshit. Can you do that?

Well, let me see, by reading all the comments written by other posters to your drivel, I would say common sense tells one that your post is bullshit, pal. I guess common sense is something you severely lack...eh?

emarine

payne1000 wrote:

I expect many more Zio trolls to show up before this one fades into the archives. Insults without rebuttal is the main tactic of Zio trolls.
Have you noticed there has not been one rebuttal of the article yet?

but what if you weren't a putz... Adolf?... you ask for rebuttal on a hypothetical post... you're just stuck in a false reality called ... propaganda... In which you hard sell to us "readers" for free

payne1000

JMHO wrote:

Well, let me see, by reading all the comments written by other posters to your drivel, I would say common sense tells one that your post is bullshit, pal. I guess common sense is something you severely lack...eh?

Zio trolls don't count as valid comments. lpnmajor made a valid comment. Go back and see if you can figure out the difference in his comment and those you trolls made.

payne1000

emarine wrote:

but what if you weren't a putz... Adolf?... you ask for rebuttal on a hypothetical post... you're just stuck in a false reality called ... propaganda... In which you hard sell to us "readers" for free

I knew you'd show up sooner or later. I see you've dropped the part where you claim I am selling hate. Could the reason for that be that I showed you where many famous Jews were saying the same thing I was about Israel? I asked you if they were selling hate. You refused to answer even though I kept repeating the question.

Here are those quotes again. Are these famous Jews selling hate? If they aren't, then you have been lying about me all this time.

Sigmund Freud:

"I concede with sorrow that the baseless fanaticism of our people is in part to be blamed for the awakening of Arab distrust. I can raise no sympathy at all for the misdirected piety which transforms a piece of a Herodian wall into a national relic, thereby offending the feelings of the natives."

Albert Einstein:

"The (Israeli) state idea is not according to my heart. I cannot understand why it is needed. It is connected with many difficulties and a narrow-mindedness. I believe it is bad."

Erich Fromm, social psychologist:

"The claim of the Jews to the Land of Israel cannot be a realistic political claim. If all nations would suddenly claim territories in which their forefathers lived two thousand years ago, this world would be a madhouse."

Primo Levi, writer and Auschwitz survivor:

"Everyone has their Jews. For the Israelis they are the Palestinians."

Marek Edelman, last surviving leader of the 1943 Warsaw uprising:

Edelman wrote a letter in support of the Palestine resistance, comparing them to ZOB, the Jewish fighters in Warsaw. He opened with, "Commanders of the Palestine military, paramilitary and partisan operations - to all the soldiers of the Palestine fighting organisations."

Isaac Asimov, novelist:

"I find myself in the odd position of not being a Zionist ... I think it is wrong for anyone to feel that there is anything special about any one heritage of whatever kind. It is delightful to have the human heritage exist in a thousand varieties, for it makes for greater interest, but as soon as one variety is thought to be more important than another, the groundwork is laid for destroying them all."

Hannah Arendt, political scientist:

"The trouble is that Zionism has often thought and said that the evil of antisemitism was necessary for the good of the Jewish people. In the words of a well-known Zionist in a letter to me discussing the original Zionist argumentation: 'The antisemites want to get rid of the Jews, the Jewish State wants to receive them, a perfect match.' "

I.F. Stone, US journalist:

"Israel is creating a kind of moral schizophrenia in world Jewry. In the outside world the welfare of Jewry depends on the maintenance of secular, non-racial, pluralistic societies. In Israel, Jewry finds itself defending a society in which mixed marriages cannot be legalized, in which the ideal is racial and exclusionist."

Noam Chomsky:

"In the Occupied Territories, what Israel is doing is much worse than apartheid. To call it apartheid is a gift to Israel, at least if by "apartheid" you mean South African-style apartheid. What's happening in the Occupied Territories is much worse."

Gabriel Kolko, one of the leading historians on modern warfare:

"The large majority of Israelis are not in the least Jewish in the cultural sense, are scarcely socialist in any sense, and daily life and the way people live is no different in Israel than it is in Chicago or Amsterdam. There is simply no rational reason that justifies the state's creation."

Miriam Margolyes, actor:

"The black South Africans asked for our support and now it's the Palestinians who are asking for our support. I hate what Israel is doing over there to the Palestinians. I think that boycotting is a very active and non-violent way of protesting."

Uri Avnery, ex-Israeli army officer:

Avnery wrote that after an Israeli military victory, "What will be seared into the consciousness of the world will be the image of Israel as a blood-stained monster, ready at any moment to commit war crimes and not prepared to abide by any moral restraints."

Henry Siegman, Rabbi and director of the U.S./Middle East Project:

"Israel has crossed the threshold from the only democracy in the Middle East' to the only apartheid regime in the Western world."

Richard Cohen, US columnist:

"The greatest mistake Israel could make at the moment is to forget that Israel itself is a mistake the idea of creating a nation of European Jews in an area of Arab Muslims (and some Christians) has produced a century of warfare and terrorism of the sort we are seeing now. Israel fights Hezbollah in the north and Hamas in the south, but its most formidable enemy is history itself."

Roseanne Barr, US comedian, writer, director, presidential candidate:

"I am sick of Israel and I am sick of Zionists. They are propped up by evangelical Christians who cannot wait for the Arabs to kill them so that their genocidal war god whom they misname Jesus can come back."

Rabbi Michael Lerner, editor of Tikkun Magazine:

"If a Jew today goes into any synagogue in the U.S. or around the world and says, 'I don't believe in God or Torah and I don't follow the commandments,' most will still welcome you in and urge you to become involved. But say, 'I don't support the State of Israel,' and you are likely to be labeled a 'self-hating Jew' or anti-Semite, scorned and dismissed."

Richard Falk, the former UN special rapporteur on human rights in the Occupied Palestinian Territories:

Falk has called Israeli policies in the Occupied Territories "a crime against humanity." Falk also has compared Israel's treatment of the Palestinians to the Nazi treatment of the Jews. Falk has said, "I think the Palestinians stand out as the most victimized people in the world."

emarine

payne1000 wrote:

I knew you'd show up sooner or later. I see you've... (show quote)

I can see you're right on track making friends and allies as usual :lol: ... I was going to write "Nazi propaganda" but I thought I'd cut you some slack... besides everyone already knows you're an extremist... whether Nazi or Islamic its all the same hate.... Adolf

payne1000

emarine wrote:

I can see you're right on track making friends and allies as usual :lol: ... I was going to write "Nazi propaganda" but I thought I'd cut you some slack... besides everyone already knows you're an extremist... whether Nazi or Islamic its all the same hate.... Adolf

What about Zionist hate--the hate you have for me because I expose the truth about Israel and Zionism?

Since the quotes I posted are from Jews who have an established reputation, you can't call them haters and anti-Semitics, but they are saying the same thing as I do about Israel and Zionism. It must make your blood pressure boil.

emarine

payne1000 wrote:

What about Zionist hate--the hate you have for me because I expose the truth about Israel and Zionism?

Since the quotes I posted are from Jews who have an established reputation, you can't call them haters and anti-Semitics, but they are saying the same thing as I do about Israel and Zionism. It must make your blood pressure boil.

Ok Adolf... first things first... I do not hate you in the least bit... I've rather grown fond of your insane views and persistence... there is something to be said for effort... Now your silly Jewish list... Einstein was for peace period ... The rest of the list has little value if any... My blood doesn't boil... emotions conflict with objectives... although you do offer some crazy opinions from some shady people, I tend to find it funny ...

saltwind 78 Loc: Murrells Inlet, South Carolina

JMHO, Can you believe this anti-Semitic clown? HEY PAYNE, SIEG HEIL!

payne1000

emarine wrote:

Ok Adolf... first things first... I do not hate you in the least bit... I've rather grown fond of your insane views and persistence... there is something to be said for effort... Now your silly Jewish list... Einstein was for peace period ... The rest of the list has little value if any... My blood doesn't boil... emotions conflict with objectives... although you do offer some crazy opinions from some shady people, I tend to find it funny ...

You'll go to any extreme to avoid answering my question about whether those famous Jews are spreading hate.
You judge me to be spreading hate by posting the same ideas and conclusions the list of famous Jews have put before the public.
It's beyond ridiculous for you to call the famous Jewish quotes a silly list having little value. The authors were extremely serious and spoke from their hearts. You have been exposed in your attempts to assassinate my character
so now all you can do is attempt to belittle the thinking of those famous Jewish intellectuals in order to save face.
You have no face left to save.

payne1000

saltwind 78 wrote:

JMHO, Can you believe this anti-Semitic clown? HEY PAYNE, SIEG HEIL!

Zionists such as yourself, emarine and JMHO are the new Nazis.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

payne1000 wrote:

Zionists such as yourself, emarine and JMHO are the new Nazis.

"My name's payne, I am insane. 21st Century Schizoid Man."