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Nov 13, 2015 09:32:51   #
payne1000
 
emarine wrote:
Man Adolf... you're one twisted bunny bud... Spingola...now the source of your delusion is clear ... Did you know Obama was a CIA plant... :shock:


Twisted? I can't think of anyone more twisted than one who attempts to turn truth into hate. Enjoy this essay about your homeland.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article14549.htm

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Nov 13, 2015 16:57:18   #
DamnYANKEE
 
payne1000 wrote:
"The key findings of the poll include:

75% of British Jews agree that “the expansion of settlements on the West Bank is a major obstacle to peace”, and 68% have a “sense of despair” whenever new expansion is approved.
73% believe Israel’s approach to peace is damaging its standing in the world.
71% see the two-state solution as the only way Israel can achieve peace.
72% reject the statement that “the Palestinians have no legitimate claim to a land of their own”.
62% support ceding territory to achieve peace, but that falls to 50% if withdrawal is seen as posing a risk to Israel’s security.
47% see the Israeli government as “constantly creating obstacles to avoid engaging in the peace process” (32% disagreed)."


http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/12/poll-of-british-jews-finds-widespread-unease-with-israels-policies
i "The key findings of the poll include: br ... (show quote)


BACKADABUS BUCKWHEAT >>>>>>>>>>>>

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Nov 13, 2015 16:58:17   #
DamnYANKEE
 
payne1000 wrote:
Are the British Jews, who this poll is about, Jew-haters, JMHO?

I don't think they are. I think they're just a whole lot smarter than you.


BWAAAAA BWAAAAA . Whine all you want . Youre STILL a KNEE GROW :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Nov 13, 2015 17:31:10   #
payne1000
 
DamnYANKEE wrote:
BWAAAAA BWAAAAA . Whine all you want . Youre STILL a KNEE GROW :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Resident idiot.

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Nov 13, 2015 17:58:45   #
emarine
 
payne1000 wrote:
Twisted? I can't think of anyone more twisted than one who attempts to turn truth into hate. Enjoy this essay about your homeland.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article14549.htm


I think that it's more like someone who sells hate AS truth... and you sure hard sell the hate ... you try and revise history selling "readers" that Israel is Nazi like when it's known that the Palestinians were loyal Nazis and still are... Everyone on this planet recognizes that Palestine is lead by terrorists... except you and your pro Nazi clan who hard sell lies... You incite hate toward normal Arabs who want peace ... and that's nothing to be proud of putz

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Nov 13, 2015 18:21:10   #
payne1000
 
emarine wrote:
I think that it's more like someone who sells hate AS truth... and you sure hard sell the hate ... you try and revise history selling "readers" that Israel is Nazi like when it's known that the Palestinians were loyal Nazis and still are... Everyone on this planet recognizes that Palestine is lead by terrorists... except you and your pro Nazi clan who hard sell lies... You incite hate toward normal Arabs who want peace ... and that's nothing to be proud of putz


Look at these quotes by famous Jews. What they're saying is very similar to what I've always posted about Israel on this forum. Are they selling hate or or they telling the truth? Since their integrity is proven and yours is not, it's a pretty good bet you're lying--again.

Sigmund Freud:

"I concede with sorrow that the baseless fanaticism of our people is in part to be blamed for the awakening of Arab distrust. I can raise no sympathy at all for the misdirected piety which transforms a piece of a Herodian wall into a national relic, thereby offending the feelings of the natives."

Albert Einstein:

"The (Israeli) state idea is not according to my heart. I cannot understand why it is needed. It is connected with many difficulties and a narrow-mindedness. I believe it is bad."

Erich Fromm, social psychologist:

"The claim of the Jews to the Land of Israel cannot be a realistic political claim. If all nations would suddenly claim territories in which their forefathers lived two thousand years ago, this world would be a madhouse."

Primo Levi, writer and Auschwitz survivor:

"Everyone has their Jews. For the Israelis they are the Palestinians."

Marek Edelman, last surviving leader of the 1943 Warsaw uprising:

Edelman wrote a letter in support of the Palestine resistance, comparing them to ZOB, the Jewish fighters in Warsaw. He opened with, "Commanders of the Palestine military, paramilitary and partisan operations - to all the soldiers of the Palestine fighting organisations."

Isaac Asimov, novelist:

"I find myself in the odd position of not being a Zionist ... I think it is wrong for anyone to feel that there is anything special about any one heritage of whatever kind. It is delightful to have the human heritage exist in a thousand varieties, for it makes for greater interest, but as soon as one variety is thought to be more important than another, the groundwork is laid for destroying them all."

Hannah Arendt, political scientist:

"The trouble is that Zionism has often thought and said that the evil of antisemitism was necessary for the good of the Jewish people. In the words of a well-known Zionist in a letter to me discussing the original Zionist argumentation: 'The antisemites want to get rid of the Jews, the Jewish State wants to receive them, a perfect match.' "

I.F. Stone, US journalist:

"Israel is creating a kind of moral schizophrenia in world Jewry. In the outside world the welfare of Jewry depends on the maintenance of secular, non-racial, pluralistic societies. In Israel, Jewry finds itself defending a society in which mixed marriages cannot be legalized, in which the ideal is racial and exclusionist."

Noam Chomsky:

"In the Occupied Territories, what Israel is doing is much worse than apartheid. To call it apartheid is a gift to Israel, at least if by "apartheid" you mean South African-style apartheid. What's happening in the Occupied Territories is much worse."

Gabriel Kolko, one of the leading historians on modern warfare:

"The large majority of Israelis are not in the least Jewish in the cultural sense, are scarcely socialist in any sense, and daily life and the way people live is no different in Israel than it is in Chicago or Amsterdam. There is simply no rational reason that justifies the state's creation."

Miriam Margolyes, actor:

"The black South Africans asked for our support and now it's the Palestinians who are asking for our support. I hate what Israel is doing over there to the Palestinians. I think that boycotting is a very active and non-violent way of protesting."

Uri Avnery, ex-Israeli army officer:

Avnery wrote that after an Israeli military victory, "What will be seared into the consciousness of the world will be the image of Israel as a blood-stained monster, ready at any moment to commit war crimes and not prepared to abide by any moral restraints."

Henry Siegman, Rabbi and director of the U.S./Middle East Project:

"Israel has crossed the threshold from ‘the only democracy in the Middle East' to the only apartheid regime in the Western world."

Richard Cohen, US columnist:

"The greatest mistake Israel could make at the moment is to forget that Israel itself is a mistake … the idea of creating a nation of European Jews in an area of Arab Muslims (and some Christians) has produced a century of warfare and terrorism of the sort we are seeing now. Israel fights Hezbollah in the north and Hamas in the south, but its most formidable enemy is history itself."

Roseanne Barr, US comedian, writer, director, presidential candidate:

"I am sick of Israel and I am sick of Zionists. They are propped up by evangelical Christians who cannot wait for the Arabs to kill them so that their genocidal war god whom they misname Jesus can come back."

Rabbi Michael Lerner, editor of Tikkun Magazine:

"If a Jew today goes into any synagogue in the U.S. or around the world and says, 'I don't believe in God or Torah and I don't follow the commandments,' most will still welcome you in and urge you to become involved. But say, 'I don't support the State of Israel,' and you are likely to be labeled a 'self-hating Jew' or anti-Semite, scorned and dismissed."

Richard Falk, the former UN special rapporteur on human rights in the Occupied Palestinian Territories:

Falk has called Israeli policies in the Occupied Territories "a crime against humanity." Falk also has compared Israel's treatment of the Palestinians to the Nazi treatment of the Jews. Falk has said, "I think the Palestinians stand out as the most victimized people in the world."

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Nov 13, 2015 18:44:01   #
emarine
 
payne1000 wrote:
Look at these quotes by famous Jews. What they're saying is very similar to what I've always posted about Israel on this forum. Are they selling hate or or they telling the truth? Since their integrity is proven and yours is not, it's a pretty good bet you're lying--again.

Sigmund Freud:

"I concede with sorrow that the baseless fanaticism of our people is in part to be blamed for the awakening of Arab distrust. I can raise no sympathy at all for the misdirected piety which transforms a piece of a Herodian wall into a national relic, thereby offending the feelings of the natives."

Albert Einstein:

"The (Israeli) state idea is not according to my heart. I cannot understand why it is needed. It is connected with many difficulties and a narrow-mindedness. I believe it is bad."

Erich Fromm, social psychologist:

"The claim of the Jews to the Land of Israel cannot be a realistic political claim. If all nations would suddenly claim territories in which their forefathers lived two thousand years ago, this world would be a madhouse."

Primo Levi, writer and Auschwitz survivor:

"Everyone has their Jews. For the Israelis they are the Palestinians."

Marek Edelman, last surviving leader of the 1943 Warsaw uprising:

Edelman wrote a letter in support of the Palestine resistance, comparing them to ZOB, the Jewish fighters in Warsaw. He opened with, "Commanders of the Palestine military, paramilitary and partisan operations - to all the soldiers of the Palestine fighting organisations."

Isaac Asimov, novelist:

"I find myself in the odd position of not being a Zionist ... I think it is wrong for anyone to feel that there is anything special about any one heritage of whatever kind. It is delightful to have the human heritage exist in a thousand varieties, for it makes for greater interest, but as soon as one variety is thought to be more important than another, the groundwork is laid for destroying them all."

Hannah Arendt, political scientist:

"The trouble is that Zionism has often thought and said that the evil of antisemitism was necessary for the good of the Jewish people. In the words of a well-known Zionist in a letter to me discussing the original Zionist argumentation: 'The antisemites want to get rid of the Jews, the Jewish State wants to receive them, a perfect match.' "

I.F. Stone, US journalist:

"Israel is creating a kind of moral schizophrenia in world Jewry. In the outside world the welfare of Jewry depends on the maintenance of secular, non-racial, pluralistic societies. In Israel, Jewry finds itself defending a society in which mixed marriages cannot be legalized, in which the ideal is racial and exclusionist."

Noam Chomsky:

"In the Occupied Territories, what Israel is doing is much worse than apartheid. To call it apartheid is a gift to Israel, at least if by "apartheid" you mean South African-style apartheid. What's happening in the Occupied Territories is much worse."

Gabriel Kolko, one of the leading historians on modern warfare:

"The large majority of Israelis are not in the least Jewish in the cultural sense, are scarcely socialist in any sense, and daily life and the way people live is no different in Israel than it is in Chicago or Amsterdam. There is simply no rational reason that justifies the state's creation."

Miriam Margolyes, actor:

"The black South Africans asked for our support and now it's the Palestinians who are asking for our support. I hate what Israel is doing over there to the Palestinians. I think that boycotting is a very active and non-violent way of protesting."

Uri Avnery, ex-Israeli army officer:

Avnery wrote that after an Israeli military victory, "What will be seared into the consciousness of the world will be the image of Israel as a blood-stained monster, ready at any moment to commit war crimes and not prepared to abide by any moral restraints."

Henry Siegman, Rabbi and director of the U.S./Middle East Project:

"Israel has crossed the threshold from ‘the only democracy in the Middle East' to the only apartheid regime in the Western world."

Richard Cohen, US columnist:

"The greatest mistake Israel could make at the moment is to forget that Israel itself is a mistake … the idea of creating a nation of European Jews in an area of Arab Muslims (and some Christians) has produced a century of warfare and terrorism of the sort we are seeing now. Israel fights Hezbollah in the north and Hamas in the south, but its most formidable enemy is history itself."

Roseanne Barr, US comedian, writer, director, presidential candidate:

"I am sick of Israel and I am sick of Zionists. They are propped up by evangelical Christians who cannot wait for the Arabs to kill them so that their genocidal war god whom they misname Jesus can come back."

Rabbi Michael Lerner, editor of Tikkun Magazine:

"If a Jew today goes into any synagogue in the U.S. or around the world and says, 'I don't believe in God or Torah and I don't follow the commandments,' most will still welcome you in and urge you to become involved. But say, 'I don't support the State of Israel,' and you are likely to be labeled a 'self-hating Jew' or anti-Semite, scorned and dismissed."

Richard Falk, the former UN special rapporteur on human rights in the Occupied Palestinian Territories:

Falk has called Israeli policies in the Occupied Territories "a crime against humanity." Falk also has compared Israel's treatment of the Palestinians to the Nazi treatment of the Jews. Falk has said, "I think the Palestinians stand out as the most victimized people in the world."
Look at these quotes by famous Jews. What they're ... (show quote)


Your Spingola lady stated that Obama was a CIA plant... your sources can only lead one to believe that you're a fool... a fool who sells hate... Adolf

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Nov 13, 2015 20:13:26   #
payne1000
 
emarine wrote:
Your Spingola lady stated that Obama was a CIA plant... your sources can only lead one to believe that you're a fool... a fool who sells hate... Adolf


I've always thought Obama was installed as president because the working class were in a rebellious mood over the failed wars and the banking bailout. E-voting machines don't elect B-team Democrats unless the A-team Republicans have really made a mess of things.

You didn't answer my question about whether those famous Jews were selling hate. They were and are selling the same common sense I am selling.

I made up this movie poster a few months after Obama had taken office. It didn't take me long to figure him out.



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Nov 13, 2015 20:23:28   #
emarine
 
payne1000 wrote:
I've always thought Obama was installed as president because the working class were in a rebellious mood over the failed wars and the banking bailout. E-voting machines don't elect B-team Democrats unless the A-team Republicans have really made a mess of things.

You didn't answer my question about whether those famous Jews were selling hate. They were and are selling the same common sense I am selling.

I made up this movie poster a few months after Obama had taken office. It didn't take me long to figure him out.
I've always thought Obama was installed as preside... (show quote)


I think you figured wrong again... Israel is not a real high priority with Obama ... I thought you would have noticed by now... everyone else has

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Nov 13, 2015 20:34:44   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
House of payne, 1000 ways to die
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Nov 13, 2015 20:57:35   #
emarine
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
House of payne, 1000 ways to die
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No doubt it was Adolf who endorsed himself...

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Nov 13, 2015 21:01:09   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
emarine wrote:
No doubt it was Adolf who endorsed himself...
I think that Nazi is lost in a haunted forest. He's under some kind of spell. Too much fairy dust, too many hemlock roots, and too many bat wings in the stew he brews.

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Nov 14, 2015 07:33:25   #
payne1000
 
emarine wrote:
I think you figured wrong again... Israel is not a real high priority with Obama ... I thought you would have noticed by now... everyone else has


Puppets don't have priorities. The ruling oligarchy controls the priorities. Most likely they're brewing up another 9/11 magnitude false flag operation to blame on Iran. The Iran treaty is only a diversion while they plan how many their going to murder this time. My advice is to stay away from large cities.

Here's what those famous Jews said about Israel again.
Readers are waiting to hear if you think they are selling hate.

Sigmund Freud:

"I concede with sorrow that the baseless fanaticism of our people is in part to be blamed for the awakening of Arab distrust. I can raise no sympathy at all for the misdirected piety which transforms a piece of a Herodian wall into a national relic, thereby offending the feelings of the natives."

Albert Einstein:

"The (Israeli) state idea is not according to my heart. I cannot understand why it is needed. It is connected with many difficulties and a narrow-mindedness. I believe it is bad."

Erich Fromm, social psychologist:

"The claim of the Jews to the Land of Israel cannot be a realistic political claim. If all nations would suddenly claim territories in which their forefathers lived two thousand years ago, this world would be a madhouse."

Primo Levi, writer and Auschwitz survivor:

"Everyone has their Jews. For the Israelis they are the Palestinians."

Marek Edelman, last surviving leader of the 1943 Warsaw uprising:

Edelman wrote a letter in support of the Palestine resistance, comparing them to ZOB, the Jewish fighters in Warsaw. He opened with, "Commanders of the Palestine military, paramilitary and partisan operations - to all the soldiers of the Palestine fighting organisations."

Isaac Asimov, novelist:

"I find myself in the odd position of not being a Zionist ... I think it is wrong for anyone to feel that there is anything special about any one heritage of whatever kind. It is delightful to have the human heritage exist in a thousand varieties, for it makes for greater interest, but as soon as one variety is thought to be more important than another, the groundwork is laid for destroying them all."

Hannah Arendt, political scientist:

"The trouble is that Zionism has often thought and said that the evil of antisemitism was necessary for the good of the Jewish people. In the words of a well-known Zionist in a letter to me discussing the original Zionist argumentation: 'The antisemites want to get rid of the Jews, the Jewish State wants to receive them, a perfect match.' "

I.F. Stone, US journalist:

"Israel is creating a kind of moral schizophrenia in world Jewry. In the outside world the welfare of Jewry depends on the maintenance of secular, non-racial, pluralistic societies. In Israel, Jewry finds itself defending a society in which mixed marriages cannot be legalized, in which the ideal is racial and exclusionist."

Noam Chomsky:

"In the Occupied Territories, what Israel is doing is much worse than apartheid. To call it apartheid is a gift to Israel, at least if by "apartheid" you mean South African-style apartheid. What's happening in the Occupied Territories is much worse."

Gabriel Kolko, one of the leading historians on modern warfare:

"The large majority of Israelis are not in the least Jewish in the cultural sense, are scarcely socialist in any sense, and daily life and the way people live is no different in Israel than it is in Chicago or Amsterdam. There is simply no rational reason that justifies the state's creation."

Miriam Margolyes, actor:

"The black South Africans asked for our support and now it's the Palestinians who are asking for our support. I hate what Israel is doing over there to the Palestinians. I think that boycotting is a very active and non-violent way of protesting."

Uri Avnery, ex-Israeli army officer:

Avnery wrote that after an Israeli military victory, "What will be seared into the consciousness of the world will be the image of Israel as a blood-stained monster, ready at any moment to commit war crimes and not prepared to abide by any moral restraints."

Henry Siegman, Rabbi and director of the U.S./Middle East Project:

"Israel has crossed the threshold from ‘the only democracy in the Middle East' to the only apartheid regime in the Western world."

Richard Cohen, US columnist:

"The greatest mistake Israel could make at the moment is to forget that Israel itself is a mistake … the idea of creating a nation of European Jews in an area of Arab Muslims (and some Christians) has produced a century of warfare and terrorism of the sort we are seeing now. Israel fights Hezbollah in the north and Hamas in the south, but its most formidable enemy is history itself."

Roseanne Barr, US comedian, writer, director, presidential candidate:

"I am sick of Israel and I am sick of Zionists. They are propped up by evangelical Christians who cannot wait for the Arabs to kill them so that their genocidal war god whom they misname Jesus can come back."

Rabbi Michael Lerner, editor of Tikkun Magazine:

"If a Jew today goes into any synagogue in the U.S. or around the world and says, 'I don't believe in God or Torah and I don't follow the commandments,' most will still welcome you in and urge you to become involved. But say, 'I don't support the State of Israel,' and you are likely to be labeled a 'self-hating Jew' or anti-Semite, scorned and dismissed."

Richard Falk, the former UN special rapporteur on human rights in the Occupied Palestinian Territories:

Falk has called Israeli policies in the Occupied Territories "a crime against humanity." Falk also has compared Israel's treatment of the Palestinians to the Nazi treatment of the Jews. Falk has said, "I think the Palestinians stand out as the most victimized people in the world."

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Nov 14, 2015 07:35:05   #
payne1000
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
I think that Nazi is lost in a haunted forest. He's under some kind of spell. Too much fairy dust, too many hemlock roots, and too many bat wings in the stew he brews.


Do you think all those famous Jews were selling hate?

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