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Oct 26, 2015 14:11:32   #
Richard94611
 
Here is the text of a message I received from Dianne Feinstein in response to my urging that the gun laws be tightened (not that guns be taken away) and that gun ownership be much more greatly controlled, so the crazies out there don't go wandering into schools and shooting up students and teachers. And don't tell me that these crazies are not a problem. I have spent a number of hours several times on the floor in my classroom, along with twenty or thirty students, because someone with a gun was on school grounds or in the school building with one or more guns.

Dear Richard:

Thank you for writing to express your support for legislation to prevent gun violence. I appreciate hearing from you on this important topic, and welcome the opportunity to provide you with an update on the work I have been doing in the Senate to promote gun safety legislation.

I share your outrage about the seemingly endless litany of massacres committed in the United States each year as a result of easy access to firearms by criminals, mentally ill individuals, and others who seek to cause harm. From the murder of 20 students and six educators at Sandy Hook Elementary School in 2012 to the ongoing gang epidemic in our nation's cities, more must be done to stop these senseless acts of gun violence.

I have long supported measures to strengthen federal gun laws. I sponsored the Assault Weapons Ban that Congress passed into law in 1994. Unfortunately, the ban was allowed to expire in September 2004, despite my efforts to renew it in 2003, 2004, and 2005. Following the shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School on December 14, 2012, in which the shooter used a Bushmaster 223 assault rifle, I introduced the "Assault Weapons Ban of 2013" (S. 150) to again reinstate the ban on assault weapons and high capacity ammunition magazines. I offered the bill as an amendment (SA 711) to the "Safe Communities, Safe Schools Act of 2013" (S. 649). Unfortunately, despite strong public support for the ban, the amendment was defeated by a vote of 40-60 on April 17, 2013.

I also supported an amendment (SA 715) to the "Safe Communities, Safe Schools Act of 2013" introduced by Senators Joe Manchin (D-WV) and Pat Toomey (R-PA), which would have expanded background checks for firearm sales. Currently, a buyer is not required to undergo a background check when purchasing a gun from a private individual, including at a gun show or over the Internet. This amendment was not agreed to by a vote of 54-46, as the threat of filibuster required it to receive 60 votes to be adopted.

You may be interested to know that, in the current Congress, I am the lead cosponsor of the "Gun Violence Intervention Act" (S.1977), which Senator Barbara Boxer (D-CA) introduced on August 5, 2015. The bill would allow a family member or close associate of a dangerous individual to apply for an order prohibiting that individual from possessing a firearm. Under this legislation, if the dangerous individual has a firearm in his possession, the court would issue a warrant ordering the temporary seizure of all firearms owned by the individual. Additionally, the bill would require that, whenever law enforcement conducts a wellness check on an individual, officers check whether any firearms or ammunition are registered to the individual, if a state maintains such databases. The "Gun Violence Intervention Act" has been referred to the Senate Judiciary Committee, of which I am a member.

I also support efforts to improve the submission of records to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System in order to make it more difficult for individuals prohibited from possessing a firearm under federal law, such as felons and domestic abusers, to access guns.

Please know I greatly appreciate your support for strengthening our nation's gun laws, and will be sure to keep your thoughts in mind should the Senate consider gun safety legislation in the future.

Again, thank you for writing. Your continued involvement in gun safety issues is critical to our success. Should you have any additional questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to contact my Washington, D.C. office at (202) 224-3841.

Sincerely yours,


Dianne Feinstein
United States Senator

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Oct 26, 2015 15:12:18   #
sweetlips
 
after listening to this woman, she sure wouldn't be allowed
to own a gun.

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Oct 26, 2015 15:23:41   #
Richard94611
 
The NRA would love to allow it.

sweetlips wrote:
after listening to this woman, she sure wouldn't be allowed
to own a gun.

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Oct 26, 2015 15:37:22   #
Crusty Curmudgeon
 
Feinstein is a total loon.

Enforce the current laws, and remove all "gun free" zones.

Criminals will always be able to get guns, and they sure as hell don't care about laws.
...Or, they wouldn't be criminals.

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Oct 26, 2015 16:12:23   #
JMHO Loc: Utah
 
Richard94611 wrote:
Here is the text of a message I received from Dianne Feinstein in response to my urging that the gun laws be tightened (not that guns be taken away) and that gun ownership be much more greatly controlled, so the crazies out there don't go wandering into schools and shooting up students and teachers. And don't tell me that these crazies are not a problem. I have spent a number of hours several times on the floor in my classroom, along with twenty or thirty students, because someone with a gun was on school grounds or in the school building with one or more guns.

Dear Richard:

Thank you for writing to express your support for legislation to prevent gun violence. I appreciate hearing from you on this important topic, and welcome the opportunity to provide you with an update on the work I have been doing in the Senate to promote gun safety legislation.

I share your outrage about the seemingly endless litany of massacres committed in the United States each year as a result of easy access to firearms by criminals, mentally ill individuals, and others who seek to cause harm. From the murder of 20 students and six educators at Sandy Hook Elementary School in 2012 to the ongoing gang epidemic in our nation's cities, more must be done to stop these senseless acts of gun violence.

I have long supported measures to strengthen federal gun laws. I sponsored the Assault Weapons Ban that Congress passed into law in 1994. Unfortunately, the ban was allowed to expire in September 2004, despite my efforts to renew it in 2003, 2004, and 2005. Following the shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School on December 14, 2012, in which the shooter used a Bushmaster 223 assault rifle, I introduced the "Assault Weapons Ban of 2013" (S. 150) to again reinstate the ban on assault weapons and high capacity ammunition magazines. I offered the bill as an amendment (SA 711) to the "Safe Communities, Safe Schools Act of 2013" (S. 649). Unfortunately, despite strong public support for the ban, the amendment was defeated by a vote of 40-60 on April 17, 2013.

I also supported an amendment (SA 715) to the "Safe Communities, Safe Schools Act of 2013" introduced by Senators Joe Manchin (D-WV) and Pat Toomey (R-PA), which would have expanded background checks for firearm sales. Currently, a buyer is not required to undergo a background check when purchasing a gun from a private individual, including at a gun show or over the Internet. This amendment was not agreed to by a vote of 54-46, as the threat of filibuster required it to receive 60 votes to be adopted.

You may be interested to know that, in the current Congress, I am the lead cosponsor of the "Gun Violence Intervention Act" (S.1977), which Senator Barbara Boxer (D-CA) introduced on August 5, 2015. The bill would allow a family member or close associate of a dangerous individual to apply for an order prohibiting that individual from possessing a firearm. Under this legislation, if the dangerous individual has a firearm in his possession, the court would issue a warrant ordering the temporary seizure of all firearms owned by the individual. Additionally, the bill would require that, whenever law enforcement conducts a wellness check on an individual, officers check whether any firearms or ammunition are registered to the individual, if a state maintains such databases. The "Gun Violence Intervention Act" has been referred to the Senate Judiciary Committee, of which I am a member.

I also support efforts to improve the submission of records to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System in order to make it more difficult for individuals prohibited from possessing a firearm under federal law, such as felons and domestic abusers, to access guns.

Please know I greatly appreciate your support for strengthening our nation's gun laws, and will be sure to keep your thoughts in mind should the Senate consider gun safety legislation in the future.

Again, thank you for writing. Your continued involvement in gun safety issues is critical to our success. Should you have any additional questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to contact my Washington, D.C. office at (202) 224-3841.

Sincerely yours,


Dianne Feinstein
United States Senator
Here is the text of a message I received from Dian... (show quote)


Yeah the hypocrite that thinks it's okay for her to have a concealed permit, but nobody else. Sure glad I don't live in that state anymore!

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Oct 26, 2015 16:21:00   #
Richard94611
 
We're glad, too.

JMHO wrote:
Yeah the hypocrite that thinks it's okay for her to have a concealed permit, but nobody else. Sure glad I don't live in that state anymore!

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Oct 26, 2015 16:37:00   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
Richard94611 wrote:
Here is the text of a message I received from Dianne Feinstein in response to my urging that the gun laws be tightened (not that guns be taken away) and that gun ownership be much more greatly controlled, so the crazies out there don't go wandering into schools and shooting up students and teachers. And don't tell me that these crazies are not a problem. I have spent a number of hours several times on the floor in my classroom, along with twenty or thirty students, because someone with a gun was on school grounds or in the school building with one or more guns.

Dear Richard:

Thank you for writing to express your support for legislation to prevent gun violence. I appreciate hearing from you on this important topic, and welcome the opportunity to provide you with an update on the work I have been doing in the Senate to promote gun safety legislation.

I share your outrage about the seemingly endless litany of massacres committed in the United States each year as a result of easy access to firearms by criminals, mentally ill individuals, and others who seek to cause harm. From the murder of 20 students and six educators at Sandy Hook Elementary School in 2012 to the ongoing gang epidemic in our nation's cities, more must be done to stop these senseless acts of gun violence.

I have long supported measures to strengthen federal gun laws. I sponsored the Assault Weapons Ban that Congress passed into law in 1994. Unfortunately, the ban was allowed to expire in September 2004, despite my efforts to renew it in 2003, 2004, and 2005. Following the shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School on December 14, 2012, in which the shooter used a Bushmaster 223 assault rifle, I introduced the "Assault Weapons Ban of 2013" (S. 150) to again reinstate the ban on assault weapons and high capacity ammunition magazines. I offered the bill as an amendment (SA 711) to the "Safe Communities, Safe Schools Act of 2013" (S. 649). Unfortunately, despite strong public support for the ban, the amendment was defeated by a vote of 40-60 on April 17, 2013.

I also supported an amendment (SA 715) to the "Safe Communities, Safe Schools Act of 2013" introduced by Senators Joe Manchin (D-WV) and Pat Toomey (R-PA), which would have expanded background checks for firearm sales. Currently, a buyer is not required to undergo a background check when purchasing a gun from a private individual, including at a gun show or over the Internet. This amendment was not agreed to by a vote of 54-46, as the threat of filibuster required it to receive 60 votes to be adopted.

You may be interested to know that, in the current Congress, I am the lead cosponsor of the "Gun Violence Intervention Act" (S.1977), which Senator Barbara Boxer (D-CA) introduced on August 5, 2015. The bill would allow a family member or close associate of a dangerous individual to apply for an order prohibiting that individual from possessing a firearm. Under this legislation, if the dangerous individual has a firearm in his possession, the court would issue a warrant ordering the temporary seizure of all firearms owned by the individual. Additionally, the bill would require that, whenever law enforcement conducts a wellness check on an individual, officers check whether any firearms or ammunition are registered to the individual, if a state maintains such databases. The "Gun Violence Intervention Act" has been referred to the Senate Judiciary Committee, of which I am a member.

I also support efforts to improve the submission of records to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System in order to make it more difficult for individuals prohibited from possessing a firearm under federal law, such as felons and domestic abusers, to access guns.

Please know I greatly appreciate your support for strengthening our nation's gun laws, and will be sure to keep your thoughts in mind should the Senate consider gun safety legislation in the future.

Again, thank you for writing. Your continued involvement in gun safety issues is critical to our success. Should you have any additional questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to contact my Washington, D.C. office at (202) 224-3841.

Sincerely yours,


Dianne Feinstein
United States Senator
Here is the text of a message I received from Dian... (show quote)




Where, in all that, are the methods of dealing with the violence that CAUSUES people to use guns to commit crimes? I only saw methods of controlling an inanimate object, a gun, that left alone - will harm no one.

Where was the court order to evaluate a persons mental state and required treatment? A neighbor may provide a weapon to a person who is mentally unstable, whether they agree to the "loan" or not, or a Walmart or other sporting goods store. If you want a gun - you'll get one, court order or no court order - just like all the domestic violence that occurs - in spite of "orders of protection".

Where is the plan to keep violent offenders locked up, instead of released after a few years, in the face of the fact that they are responsible for 65% of all violent crimes? Keeping them in prison, would reduce the violent crime rate by 50% overnight ( assuming they were gathered up and re-incarcerated immediately ).

This singular focus on the TOOLS of violence - is why all such measures will fail. Even if there were no guns available at all, angry and crazy people will prey on the innocent anyway - they'll just find another TOOL to do it with.

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Oct 26, 2015 17:11:45   #
Richard94611
 
Good points, but should we let them have the tool that they are using now ? I don't think so.

lpnmajor wrote:
Where, in all that, are the methods of dealing with the violence that CAUSUES people to use guns to commit crimes? I only saw methods of controlling an inanimate object, a gun, that left alone - will harm no one.

Where was the court order to evaluate a persons mental state and required treatment? A neighbor may provide a weapon to a person who is mentally unstable, whether they agree to the "loan" or not, or a Walmart or other sporting goods store. If you want a gun - you'll get one, court order or no court order - just like all the domestic violence that occurs - in spite of "orders of protection".

Where is the plan to keep violent offenders locked up, instead of released after a few years, in the face of the fact that they are responsible for 65% of all violent crimes? Keeping them in prison, would reduce the violent crime rate by 50% overnight ( assuming they were gathered up and re-incarcerated immediately ).

This singular focus on the TOOLS of violence - is why all such measures will fail. Even if there were no guns available at all, angry and crazy people will prey on the innocent anyway - they'll just find another TOOL to do it with.
Where, in all that, are the methods of dealing wit... (show quote)

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Oct 26, 2015 21:32:34   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
Richard94611 wrote:
Good points, but should we let them have the tool that they are using now ? I don't think so.


The thing is, we'll never stop this tool, there are just too many of them around. The smart money would be on preventing the NEED for that tool for that reason.

There are far too many angry, depressed and mentally unbalanced people in America. THAT we can do something about. We can't make everyone's life all hunky dory and it isn't our responsibility anyway, but we CAN teach people better coping skills - something the media, schools, parents and society as a whole - just aren't teaching.

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Oct 26, 2015 21:51:29   #
Scoop Henderson Loc: The Rez, (I am from Egypt)
 
Crusty Curmudgeon wrote:
Feinstein is a total loon.

Enforce the current laws, and remove all "gun free" zones.

Criminals will always be able to get guns, and they sure as hell don't care about laws.
...Or, they wouldn't be criminals.


The loon should be term limited retroactively.

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Oct 27, 2015 07:59:55   #
dpadams6
 
Tightening gun laws won't do a Damn thing to stop murders. I suppose you also think that "gun free Zones" also stop murders?
The bad guys go to commit murders with a gun, see the "gun free Zone" sign, and figure they will go somewhere else, because it's illegal to have their gun there?

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Oct 27, 2015 08:04:53   #
MatthewlovesAyn Loc: Ohio
 
Richard94611 wrote:
Here is the text of a message I received from Dianne Feinstein in response to my urging that the gun laws be tightened (not that guns be taken away) and that gun ownership be much more greatly controlled, so the crazies out there don't go wandering into schools and shooting up students and teachers. And don't tell me that these crazies are not a problem. I have spent a number of hours several times on the floor in my classroom, along with twenty or thirty students, because someone with a gun was on school grounds or in the school building with one or more guns.

Dear Richard:

Thank you for writing to express your support for legislation to prevent gun violence. I appreciate hearing from you on this important topic, and welcome the opportunity to provide you with an update on the work I have been doing in the Senate to promote gun safety legislation.

I share your outrage about the seemingly endless litany of massacres committed in the United States each year as a result of easy access to firearms by criminals, mentally ill individuals, and others who seek to cause harm. From the murder of 20 students and six educators at Sandy Hook Elementary School in 2012 to the ongoing gang epidemic in our nation's cities, more must be done to stop these senseless acts of gun violence.

I have long supported measures to strengthen federal gun laws. I sponsored the Assault Weapons Ban that Congress passed into law in 1994. Unfortunately, the ban was allowed to expire in September 2004, despite my efforts to renew it in 2003, 2004, and 2005. Following the shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School on December 14, 2012, in which the shooter used a Bushmaster 223 assault rifle, I introduced the "Assault Weapons Ban of 2013" (S. 150) to again reinstate the ban on assault weapons and high capacity ammunition magazines. I offered the bill as an amendment (SA 711) to the "Safe Communities, Safe Schools Act of 2013" (S. 649). Unfortunately, despite strong public support for the ban, the amendment was defeated by a vote of 40-60 on April 17, 2013.

I also supported an amendment (SA 715) to the "Safe Communities, Safe Schools Act of 2013" introduced by Senators Joe Manchin (D-WV) and Pat Toomey (R-PA), which would have expanded background checks for firearm sales. Currently, a buyer is not required to undergo a background check when purchasing a gun from a private individual, including at a gun show or over the Internet. This amendment was not agreed to by a vote of 54-46, as the threat of filibuster required it to receive 60 votes to be adopted.

You may be interested to know that, in the current Congress, I am the lead cosponsor of the "Gun Violence Intervention Act" (S.1977), which Senator Barbara Boxer (D-CA) introduced on August 5, 2015. The bill would allow a family member or close associate of a dangerous individual to apply for an order prohibiting that individual from possessing a firearm. Under this legislation, if the dangerous individual has a firearm in his possession, the court would issue a warrant ordering the temporary seizure of all firearms owned by the individual. Additionally, the bill would require that, whenever law enforcement conducts a wellness check on an individual, officers check whether any firearms or ammunition are registered to the individual, if a state maintains such databases. The "Gun Violence Intervention Act" has been referred to the Senate Judiciary Committee, of which I am a member.

I also support efforts to improve the submission of records to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System in order to make it more difficult for individuals prohibited from possessing a firearm under federal law, such as felons and domestic abusers, to access guns.

Please know I greatly appreciate your support for strengthening our nation's gun laws, and will be sure to keep your thoughts in mind should the Senate consider gun safety legislation in the future.

Again, thank you for writing. Your continued involvement in gun safety issues is critical to our success. Should you have any additional questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to contact my Washington, D.C. office at (202) 224-3841.

Sincerely yours,


Dianne Feinstein
United States Senator
Here is the text of a message I received from Dian... (show quote)



I don't know who said this, so I can't credit it. I just agree:
"We are advised NOT to judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics."

Funny how that works.

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Oct 27, 2015 08:58:08   #
Zombiefarmer23 Loc: Bull Hills
 
Richard94611 wrote:
Here is the text of a message I received from Dianne Feinstein in response to my urging that the gun laws be tightened (not that guns be taken away) and that gun ownership be much more greatly controlled, so the crazies out there don't go wandering into schools and shooting up students and teachers. And don't tell me that these crazies are not a problem. I have spent a number of hours several times on the floor in my classroom, along with twenty or thirty students, because someone with a gun was on school grounds or in the school building with one or more guns.

Dear Richard:

Thank you for writing to express your support for legislation to prevent gun violence. I appreciate hearing from you on this important topic, and welcome the opportunity to provide you with an update on the work I have been doing in the Senate to promote gun safety legislation.

I share your outrage about the seemingly endless litany of massacres committed in the United States each year as a result of easy access to firearms by criminals, mentally ill individuals, and others who seek to cause harm. From the murder of 20 students and six educators at Sandy Hook Elementary School in 2012 to the ongoing gang epidemic in our nation's cities, more must be done to stop these senseless acts of gun violence.

I have long supported measures to strengthen federal gun laws. I sponsored the Assault Weapons Ban that Congress passed into law in 1994. Unfortunately, the ban was allowed to expire in September 2004, despite my efforts to renew it in 2003, 2004, and 2005. Following the shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School on December 14, 2012, in which the shooter used a Bushmaster 223 assault rifle, I introduced the "Assault Weapons Ban of 2013" (S. 150) to again reinstate the ban on assault weapons and high capacity ammunition magazines. I offered the bill as an amendment (SA 711) to the "Safe Communities, Safe Schools Act of 2013" (S. 649). Unfortunately, despite strong public support for the ban, the amendment was defeated by a vote of 40-60 on April 17, 2013.

I also supported an amendment (SA 715) to the "Safe Communities, Safe Schools Act of 2013" introduced by Senators Joe Manchin (D-WV) and Pat Toomey (R-PA), which would have expanded background checks for firearm sales. Currently, a buyer is not required to undergo a background check when purchasing a gun from a private individual, including at a gun show or over the Internet. This amendment was not agreed to by a vote of 54-46, as the threat of filibuster required it to receive 60 votes to be adopted.

You may be interested to know that, in the current Congress, I am the lead cosponsor of the "Gun Violence Intervention Act" (S.1977), which Senator Barbara Boxer (D-CA) introduced on August 5, 2015. The bill would allow a family member or close associate of a dangerous individual to apply for an order prohibiting that individual from possessing a firearm. Under this legislation, if the dangerous individual has a firearm in his possession, the court would issue a warrant ordering the temporary seizure of all firearms owned by the individual. Additionally, the bill would require that, whenever law enforcement conducts a wellness check on an individual, officers check whether any firearms or ammunition are registered to the individual, if a state maintains such databases. The "Gun Violence Intervention Act" has been referred to the Senate Judiciary Committee, of which I am a member.

I also support efforts to improve the submission of records to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System in order to make it more difficult for individuals prohibited from possessing a firearm under federal law, such as felons and domestic abusers, to access guns.

Please know I greatly appreciate your support for strengthening our nation's gun laws, and will be sure to keep your thoughts in mind should the Senate consider gun safety legislation in the future.

Again, thank you for writing. Your continued involvement in gun safety issues is critical to our success. Should you have any additional questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to contact my Washington, D.C. office at (202) 224-3841.

Sincerely yours,


Dianne Feinstein
United States Senator
Here is the text of a message I received from Dian... (show quote)


Relativistic hypocritical commie moron.

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Oct 27, 2015 13:03:36   #
Richard94611
 
Maybe if you had been a teacher and had to spend a few hours with your kids behind a locked door, lying on the ground, you would have a different perspective. I have been in that situation several times when some loonie was at my school.

Zombiefarmer23 wrote:
Relativistic hypocritical commie moron.

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Oct 27, 2015 15:25:57   #
cephusbob
 
Maybe if you had been a teacher and had to spend a few hours with your kids behind a locked door, lying on the ground, you would have a different perspective. I have been in that situation several times when some loonie was at my school.



Richard if your school wasn't in a gun free zone maybe you wouldn't be spending so much time laying on the floor!

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