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Oct 24, 2015 15:25:47   #
ziggy88 Loc: quincy illinois 62301
 
America: The Final Babylon
Indeed, if the Great Tribulation and the second coming of Christ are truly upon us, then the article presented here is not only compelling it is necessary.

Negative Naysayers
The negative naybobs of political discontent will counter with “Surely America has been the ‘City Upon the Hill’ used by God to evangelize the world?” Of course this once was the case; but today in particular in the Northeast U.S. is one of the largest secular progressive unchurched regions on the planet! The irony is that the ‘city upon the hill’ reference as applied in America began with a sermon called “A model of Christian Charity” and was written in 1630 by the Puritan leader John Winthrop as his community of followers sailed to New England. In sharp relief, it is not an overstatement to lament today that we likely would require missionaries from Africa to evangelize New England. While those Puritan values were very formative in the founding years of this great nation, a couple of hundred years later we are falling into the morass of a sharp decline in morals and Christian values to the extent never seen before.

Founding Fathers
John Adams, one of America’s founding fathers once wrote, “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” James Madison stated these words with this statement: “We have staked the whole future of American civilization, not upon the power of government, far from it. We have staked the future of all political institutions upon the capacity of mankind of self-government; upon the capacity for each and all of us to govern ourselves, to control ourselves, to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God.” When the commandments of God are being taken down and hidden from the public on the lie of the ‘separation of church & state’ our decline becomes a slippery slope into the abyss.

Patriot Act
Accepting this at face value, we should not be surprised that under the Bush administration the Patriot Act effectively gutted the Constitutional freedoms once enjoyed by our citizenry. No matter what we once were, we are no longer a moral and religious nation. Our leadership is all too often lacking any center in ethical or moral standards, let alone biblical motivation when making decisions that should be God centered but turn out being self-centered secretly coming down with dubious legislation behind closed doors often benefiting the Congress not the American people.

No Longer Align with Christian Mandates
It is just not our political inclinations that are no longer aligned with biblical mandates; American Christians have been seduced by the world; its ideals and methodology. Daniel Atkins once made known, “The Church of Christ has been seduced by a skilled seductress: the American dream.” Jim Bakker (televangelist), while locked down in prison for stealing from the congregation, had a very radical epiphany while there. He had come to the full realization that Revelations prostitute, “the whore of Babylon”, is “materialism.” Despite the lessons learned by its worst offenders over the past decades, the consumer mentality of our collapsing culture infects the believing church to an even greater extent to this day.


Only Money Matters
It seems in today’s technopoly, the worship of technology, American evangelism has been assimilated into this beast of high tech jargonauts becoming embedded in our ecclesiastical institutions making resistance to such effects nearly impossible. The Babylon of Revelation 17:18 portrays this technopoly well. While given its inability to serve as censor to its own immoral and unethical motives, only money matters, as the colossus of international trade, it dominates as the principal exporter of immorality and perversion to the world.

Nailing it down
To put it bluntly in this indictment, porno is a huge business in the United States with total sales last year at $13.3 billion. This money is collected then porn sent throughout the world infecting countries like India, where rape has been mainstreamed into the culture, Islamic countries, where beatings & torture to women has become normal, and a large underworld of child porn prevalent in all nations.


Roe vs Wade
Then there is the 56 million murdered in the womb since 1973 famous Roe vs Wade decision sacrificed on the altar of easy sex and convenience. To define it even more: 56 million souls murdered that could have grown up to have lives, pay taxes, have children who paid taxes, grandchildren who paid taxes, contributing members of society that were actual Americans. The question is would we have to import alien workers to do jobs that the 56 million murdered in the womb could have done?
Mainstreaming Homosexuality
Even worse Protestant mainline denominations the ELCA and the PCUSA are knowingly leading its believers into hell by mainstreaming homosexuality. Not just satisfied with merely condoning homosexuality as an alternative sexual practice (sodomy) and lifestyle, they are going the extra mile by ordaining homosexual clergy to preside over their heterosexual congregations! While ignoring the clear warning in the scripture, thumbing their nose at God, denying his clear teaching against the practice, inverting his created order. What is even worse is the so called Emergent Church embracing the “spirit of the age” announcing same sex marriage as something God leads us now to “affirm & accept.” Like Billy Grahams wife Ruth once said, “If God does not judge America he should apologize to Sodom & Gomorrah.”
Biblical Scholar Craig Keener
Craig Keener observed: “Whereas Rome was the Babylon of John’s day, it was only one of several actors in Babylon’s role. Subsequent history reminds us that just as the false prophetess of Thyatira was a new Jezebel, the false prophet of Pergamum a new Balaam, the evil emperor a new Nero, and Rome a new Babylon, so the empire of history to return in successive incarnations that repeat the same basic lies. That the Babylon of John’s day has fallen, however, like most Babylon’s since and all that have preceded it, give us courage that the final Babylon (America) too, will perish before the glory of God’s invading kingdom.”

Is America the Final Babylon?
If you believe that the return of our Lord and savior Jesus Christ is returning soon in the rapture to take believers off the planet the conclusion above seems inevitable. There is one major caveat in order: America’s governing philosophy no longer consists of noble principles like being a patriot; it has been defaced by an anti-biblical utopianism on the one hand that diminishes personal freedom and an atheistic materialism on the other that is consuming the souls of its people. Should we challenge the justice of God or his righteousness in calling our nation to account for its corrupting impact on the world? Ultimately the reader must decide whether the epithet Babylon the Great, aka Mystery Babylon, is indeed, an invective proclaimed by the Lord’s angel of Revelation against the United States of America:
“After these things I saw another angel coming down from heaven, having great authority, and the earth was illuminated with his glory.
And he cried mightily with a loud voice, saying, Babylon the great has fallen, is fallen, and has become a dwelling place of demons, a prison for every foul spirit, and a cage for every unclean and hated bird!
For all the nations have drunk of the wine of her fornication, the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth have become rich through the abundance of her luxury.”
Is America the final Babylon? You tell me….







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Oct 24, 2015 16:34:09   #
bahmer
 
ziggy88 wrote:
America: The Final Babylon
Indeed, if the Great Tribulation and the second coming of Christ are truly upon us, then the article presented here is not only compelling it is necessary.

Negative Naysayers
The negative naybobs of political discontent will counter with “Surely America has been the ‘City Upon the Hill’ used by God to evangelize the world?” Of course this once was the case; but today in particular in the Northeast U.S. is one of the largest secular progressive unchurched regions on the planet! The irony is that the ‘city upon the hill’ reference as applied in America began with a sermon called “A model of Christian Charity” and was written in 1630 by the Puritan leader John Winthrop as his community of followers sailed to New England. In sharp relief, it is not an overstatement to lament today that we likely would require missionaries from Africa to evangelize New England. While those Puritan values were very formative in the founding years of this great nation, a couple of hundred years later we are falling into the morass of a sharp decline in morals and Christian values to the extent never seen before.

Founding Fathers
John Adams, one of America’s founding fathers once wrote, “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” James Madison stated these words with this statement: “We have staked the whole future of American civilization, not upon the power of government, far from it. We have staked the future of all political institutions upon the capacity of mankind of self-government; upon the capacity for each and all of us to govern ourselves, to control ourselves, to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God.” When the commandments of God are being taken down and hidden from the public on the lie of the ‘separation of church & state’ our decline becomes a slippery slope into the abyss.

Patriot Act
Accepting this at face value, we should not be surprised that under the Bush administration the Patriot Act effectively gutted the Constitutional freedoms once enjoyed by our citizenry. No matter what we once were, we are no longer a moral and religious nation. Our leadership is all too often lacking any center in ethical or moral standards, let alone biblical motivation when making decisions that should be God centered but turn out being self-centered secretly coming down with dubious legislation behind closed doors often benefiting the Congress not the American people.

No Longer Align with Christian Mandates
It is just not our political inclinations that are no longer aligned with biblical mandates; American Christians have been seduced by the world; its ideals and methodology. Daniel Atkins once made known, “The Church of Christ has been seduced by a skilled seductress: the American dream.” Jim Bakker (televangelist), while locked down in prison for stealing from the congregation, had a very radical epiphany while there. He had come to the full realization that Revelations prostitute, “the whore of Babylon”, is “materialism.” Despite the lessons learned by its worst offenders over the past decades, the consumer mentality of our collapsing culture infects the believing church to an even greater extent to this day.


Only Money Matters
It seems in today’s technopoly, the worship of technology, American evangelism has been assimilated into this beast of high tech jargonauts becoming embedded in our ecclesiastical institutions making resistance to such effects nearly impossible. The Babylon of Revelation 17:18 portrays this technopoly well. While given its inability to serve as censor to its own immoral and unethical motives, only money matters, as the colossus of international trade, it dominates as the principal exporter of immorality and perversion to the world.

Nailing it down
To put it bluntly in this indictment, porno is a huge business in the United States with total sales last year at $13.3 billion. This money is collected then porn sent throughout the world infecting countries like India, where rape has been mainstreamed into the culture, Islamic countries, where beatings & torture to women has become normal, and a large underworld of child porn prevalent in all nations.


Roe vs Wade
Then there is the 56 million murdered in the womb since 1973 famous Roe vs Wade decision sacrificed on the altar of easy sex and convenience. To define it even more: 56 million souls murdered that could have grown up to have lives, pay taxes, have children who paid taxes, grandchildren who paid taxes, contributing members of society that were actual Americans. The question is would we have to import alien workers to do jobs that the 56 million murdered in the womb could have done?
Mainstreaming Homosexuality
Even worse Protestant mainline denominations the ELCA and the PCUSA are knowingly leading its believers into hell by mainstreaming homosexuality. Not just satisfied with merely condoning homosexuality as an alternative sexual practice (sodomy) and lifestyle, they are going the extra mile by ordaining homosexual clergy to preside over their heterosexual congregations! While ignoring the clear warning in the scripture, thumbing their nose at God, denying his clear teaching against the practice, inverting his created order. What is even worse is the so called Emergent Church embracing the “spirit of the age” announcing same sex marriage as something God leads us now to “affirm & accept.” Like Billy Grahams wife Ruth once said, “If God does not judge America he should apologize to Sodom & Gomorrah.”
Biblical Scholar Craig Keener
Craig Keener observed: “Whereas Rome was the Babylon of John’s day, it was only one of several actors in Babylon’s role. Subsequent history reminds us that just as the false prophetess of Thyatira was a new Jezebel, the false prophet of Pergamum a new Balaam, the evil emperor a new Nero, and Rome a new Babylon, so the empire of history to return in successive incarnations that repeat the same basic lies. That the Babylon of John’s day has fallen, however, like most Babylon’s since and all that have preceded it, give us courage that the final Babylon (America) too, will perish before the glory of God’s invading kingdom.”

Is America the Final Babylon?
If you believe that the return of our Lord and savior Jesus Christ is returning soon in the rapture to take believers off the planet the conclusion above seems inevitable. There is one major caveat in order: America’s governing philosophy no longer consists of noble principles like being a patriot; it has been defaced by an anti-biblical utopianism on the one hand that diminishes personal freedom and an atheistic materialism on the other that is consuming the souls of its people. Should we challenge the justice of God or his righteousness in calling our nation to account for its corrupting impact on the world? Ultimately the reader must decide whether the epithet Babylon the Great, aka Mystery Babylon, is indeed, an invective proclaimed by the Lord’s angel of Revelation against the United States of America:
“After these things I saw another angel coming down from heaven, having great authority, and the earth was illuminated with his glory.
And he cried mightily with a loud voice, saying, Babylon the great has fallen, is fallen, and has become a dwelling place of demons, a prison for every foul spirit, and a cage for every unclean and hated bird!
For all the nations have drunk of the wine of her fornication, the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth have become rich through the abundance of her luxury.”
Is America the final Babylon? You tell me….
America: The Final Babylon br Indeed, if the Grea... (show quote)


Quite possibly we are the final great Babylon. Our colleges spew that there is no God and those that attend these vestiges of so called higher learning then come out and like a trained parrot repeat their professors words just as he spoke them and then strut about like a stupid pigeon and they are so proud of themselves.

Reply
Oct 24, 2015 18:14:32   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
ziggy88 wrote:
America: The Final Babylon
Indeed, if the Great Tribulation and the second coming of Christ are truly upon us, then the article presented here is not only compelling it is necessary.

Negative Naysayers
The negative naybobs of political discontent will counter with “Surely America has been the ‘City Upon the Hill’ used by God to evangelize the world?” Of course this once was the case; but today in particular in the Northeast U.S. is one of the largest secular progressive unchurched regions on the planet! The irony is that the ‘city upon the hill’ reference as applied in America began with a sermon called “A model of Christian Charity” and was written in 1630 by the Puritan leader John Winthrop as his community of followers sailed to New England. In sharp relief, it is not an overstatement to lament today that we likely would require missionaries from Africa to evangelize New England. While those Puritan values were very formative in the founding years of this great nation, a couple of hundred years later we are falling into the morass of a sharp decline in morals and Christian values to the extent never seen before.

Founding Fathers
John Adams, one of America’s founding fathers once wrote, “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” James Madison stated these words with this statement: “We have staked the whole future of American civilization, not upon the power of government, far from it. We have staked the future of all political institutions upon the capacity of mankind of self-government; upon the capacity for each and all of us to govern ourselves, to control ourselves, to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God.” When the commandments of God are being taken down and hidden from the public on the lie of the ‘separation of church & state’ our decline becomes a slippery slope into the abyss.

Patriot Act
Accepting this at face value, we should not be surprised that under the Bush administration the Patriot Act effectively gutted the Constitutional freedoms once enjoyed by our citizenry. No matter what we once were, we are no longer a moral and religious nation. Our leadership is all too often lacking any center in ethical or moral standards, let alone biblical motivation when making decisions that should be God centered but turn out being self-centered secretly coming down with dubious legislation behind closed doors often benefiting the Congress not the American people.

No Longer Align with Christian Mandates
It is just not our political inclinations that are no longer aligned with biblical mandates; American Christians have been seduced by the world; its ideals and methodology. Daniel Atkins once made known, “The Church of Christ has been seduced by a skilled seductress: the American dream.” Jim Bakker (televangelist), while locked down in prison for stealing from the congregation, had a very radical epiphany while there. He had come to the full realization that Revelations prostitute, “the whore of Babylon”, is “materialism.” Despite the lessons learned by its worst offenders over the past decades, the consumer mentality of our collapsing culture infects the believing church to an even greater extent to this day.


Only Money Matters
It seems in today’s technopoly, the worship of technology, American evangelism has been assimilated into this beast of high tech jargonauts becoming embedded in our ecclesiastical institutions making resistance to such effects nearly impossible. The Babylon of Revelation 17:18 portrays this technopoly well. While given its inability to serve as censor to its own immoral and unethical motives, only money matters, as the colossus of international trade, it dominates as the principal exporter of immorality and perversion to the world.

Nailing it down
To put it bluntly in this indictment, porno is a huge business in the United States with total sales last year at $13.3 billion. This money is collected then porn sent throughout the world infecting countries like India, where rape has been mainstreamed into the culture, Islamic countries, where beatings & torture to women has become normal, and a large underworld of child porn prevalent in all nations.


Roe vs Wade
Then there is the 56 million murdered in the womb since 1973 famous Roe vs Wade decision sacrificed on the altar of easy sex and convenience. To define it even more: 56 million souls murdered that could have grown up to have lives, pay taxes, have children who paid taxes, grandchildren who paid taxes, contributing members of society that were actual Americans. The question is would we have to import alien workers to do jobs that the 56 million murdered in the womb could have done?
Mainstreaming Homosexuality
Even worse Protestant mainline denominations the ELCA and the PCUSA are knowingly leading its believers into hell by mainstreaming homosexuality. Not just satisfied with merely condoning homosexuality as an alternative sexual practice (sodomy) and lifestyle, they are going the extra mile by ordaining homosexual clergy to preside over their heterosexual congregations! While ignoring the clear warning in the scripture, thumbing their nose at God, denying his clear teaching against the practice, inverting his created order. What is even worse is the so called Emergent Church embracing the “spirit of the age” announcing same sex marriage as something God leads us now to “affirm & accept.” Like Billy Grahams wife Ruth once said, “If God does not judge America he should apologize to Sodom & Gomorrah.”
Biblical Scholar Craig Keener
Craig Keener observed: “Whereas Rome was the Babylon of John’s day, it was only one of several actors in Babylon’s role. Subsequent history reminds us that just as the false prophetess of Thyatira was a new Jezebel, the false prophet of Pergamum a new Balaam, the evil emperor a new Nero, and Rome a new Babylon, so the empire of history to return in successive incarnations that repeat the same basic lies. That the Babylon of John’s day has fallen, however, like most Babylon’s since and all that have preceded it, give us courage that the final Babylon (America) too, will perish before the glory of God’s invading kingdom.”

Is America the Final Babylon?
If you believe that the return of our Lord and savior Jesus Christ is returning soon in the rapture to take believers off the planet the conclusion above seems inevitable. There is one major caveat in order: America’s governing philosophy no longer consists of noble principles like being a patriot; it has been defaced by an anti-biblical utopianism on the one hand that diminishes personal freedom and an atheistic materialism on the other that is consuming the souls of its people. Should we challenge the justice of God or his righteousness in calling our nation to account for its corrupting impact on the world? Ultimately the reader must decide whether the epithet Babylon the Great, aka Mystery Babylon, is indeed, an invective proclaimed by the Lord’s angel of Revelation against the United States of America:
“After these things I saw another angel coming down from heaven, having great authority, and the earth was illuminated with his glory.
And he cried mightily with a loud voice, saying, Babylon the great has fallen, is fallen, and has become a dwelling place of demons, a prison for every foul spirit, and a cage for every unclean and hated bird!
For all the nations have drunk of the wine of her fornication, the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth have become rich through the abundance of her luxury.”
Is America the final Babylon? You tell me….
America: The Final Babylon br Indeed, if the Grea... (show quote)


...are you an incarnation of Steve 700, 'cause if you are, I'm gonna make you miserable whenever you bring this stupid crap up...well, even if you're not Steve you will suffer being called an idiot.

By the way, do you know where Babylon is?

How 'bout America is just America?

..and how 'bout you shut up and go to your basement and study up on porn or something?

Reply
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Oct 24, 2015 18:16:32   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
bahmer wrote:
Quite possibly we are the final great Babylon. Our colleges spew that there is no God and those that attend these vestiges of so called higher learning then come out and like a trained parrot repeat their professors words just as he spoke them and then strut about like a stupid pigeon and they are so proud of themselves.


...don't encourage this kind of garbage...

Reply
Oct 24, 2015 18:33:40   #
PeterS
 
ziggy88 wrote:
America: The Final Babylon
Indeed, if the Great Tribulation and the second coming of Christ are truly upon us, then the article presented here is not only compelling it is necessary.

Negative Naysayers
The negative naybobs of political discontent will counter with “Surely America has been the ‘City Upon the Hill’ used by God to evangelize the world?” Of course this once was the case; but today in particular in the Northeast U.S. is one of the largest secular progressive unchurched regions on the planet! The irony is that the ‘city upon the hill’ reference as applied in America began with a sermon called “A model of Christian Charity” and was written in 1630 by the Puritan leader John Winthrop as his community of followers sailed to New England. In sharp relief, it is not an overstatement to lament today that we likely would require missionaries from Africa to evangelize New England. While those Puritan values were very formative in the founding years of this great nation, a couple of hundred years later we are falling into the morass of a sharp decline in morals and Christian values to the extent never seen before.

Founding Fathers
John Adams, one of America’s founding fathers once wrote, “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” James Madison stated these words with this statement: “We have staked the whole future of American civilization, not upon the power of government, far from it. We have staked the future of all political institutions upon the capacity of mankind of self-government; upon the capacity for each and all of us to govern ourselves, to control ourselves, to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God.” When the commandments of God are being taken down and hidden from the public on the lie of the ‘separation of church & state’ our decline becomes a slippery slope into the abyss.

Patriot Act
Accepting this at face value, we should not be surprised that under the Bush administration the Patriot Act effectively gutted the Constitutional freedoms once enjoyed by our citizenry. No matter what we once were, we are no longer a moral and religious nation. Our leadership is all too often lacking any center in ethical or moral standards, let alone biblical motivation when making decisions that should be God centered but turn out being self-centered secretly coming down with dubious legislation behind closed doors often benefiting the Congress not the American people.

No Longer Align with Christian Mandates
It is just not our political inclinations that are no longer aligned with biblical mandates; American Christians have been seduced by the world; its ideals and methodology. Daniel Atkins once made known, “The Church of Christ has been seduced by a skilled seductress: the American dream.” Jim Bakker (televangelist), while locked down in prison for stealing from the congregation, had a very radical epiphany while there. He had come to the full realization that Revelations prostitute, “the whore of Babylon”, is “materialism.” Despite the lessons learned by its worst offenders over the past decades, the consumer mentality of our collapsing culture infects the believing church to an even greater extent to this day.


Only Money Matters
It seems in today’s technopoly, the worship of technology, American evangelism has been assimilated into this beast of high tech jargonauts becoming embedded in our ecclesiastical institutions making resistance to such effects nearly impossible. The Babylon of Revelation 17:18 portrays this technopoly well. While given its inability to serve as censor to its own immoral and unethical motives, only money matters, as the colossus of international trade, it dominates as the principal exporter of immorality and perversion to the world.

Nailing it down
To put it bluntly in this indictment, porno is a huge business in the United States with total sales last year at $13.3 billion. This money is collected then porn sent throughout the world infecting countries like India, where rape has been mainstreamed into the culture, Islamic countries, where beatings & torture to women has become normal, and a large underworld of child porn prevalent in all nations.


Roe vs Wade
Then there is the 56 million murdered in the womb since 1973 famous Roe vs Wade decision sacrificed on the altar of easy sex and convenience. To define it even more: 56 million souls murdered that could have grown up to have lives, pay taxes, have children who paid taxes, grandchildren who paid taxes, contributing members of society that were actual Americans. The question is would we have to import alien workers to do jobs that the 56 million murdered in the womb could have done?
Mainstreaming Homosexuality
Even worse Protestant mainline denominations the ELCA and the PCUSA are knowingly leading its believers into hell by mainstreaming homosexuality. Not just satisfied with merely condoning homosexuality as an alternative sexual practice (sodomy) and lifestyle, they are going the extra mile by ordaining homosexual clergy to preside over their heterosexual congregations! While ignoring the clear warning in the scripture, thumbing their nose at God, denying his clear teaching against the practice, inverting his created order. What is even worse is the so called Emergent Church embracing the “spirit of the age” announcing same sex marriage as something God leads us now to “affirm & accept.” Like Billy Grahams wife Ruth once said, “If God does not judge America he should apologize to Sodom & Gomorrah.”
Biblical Scholar Craig Keener
Craig Keener observed: “Whereas Rome was the Babylon of John’s day, it was only one of several actors in Babylon’s role. Subsequent history reminds us that just as the false prophetess of Thyatira was a new Jezebel, the false prophet of Pergamum a new Balaam, the evil emperor a new Nero, and Rome a new Babylon, so the empire of history to return in successive incarnations that repeat the same basic lies. That the Babylon of John’s day has fallen, however, like most Babylon’s since and all that have preceded it, give us courage that the final Babylon (America) too, will perish before the glory of God’s invading kingdom.”

Is America the Final Babylon?
If you believe that the return of our Lord and savior Jesus Christ is returning soon in the rapture to take believers off the planet the conclusion above seems inevitable. There is one major caveat in order: America’s governing philosophy no longer consists of noble principles like being a patriot; it has been defaced by an anti-biblical utopianism on the one hand that diminishes personal freedom and an atheistic materialism on the other that is consuming the souls of its people. Should we challenge the justice of God or his righteousness in calling our nation to account for its corrupting impact on the world? Ultimately the reader must decide whether the epithet Babylon the Great, aka Mystery Babylon, is indeed, an invective proclaimed by the Lord’s angel of Revelation against the United States of America:
“After these things I saw another angel coming down from heaven, having great authority, and the earth was illuminated with his glory.
And he cried mightily with a loud voice, saying, Babylon the great has fallen, is fallen, and has become a dwelling place of demons, a prison for every foul spirit, and a cage for every unclean and hated bird!
For all the nations have drunk of the wine of her fornication, the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth have become rich through the abundance of her luxury.”
Is America the final Babylon? You tell me….
America: The Final Babylon br Indeed, if the Grea... (show quote)

If you think the end is near you are more than welcome to jump off...

Reply
Oct 25, 2015 15:29:43   #
PZG1225 Loc: Florida
 
Dummy Boy wrote:
...are you an incarnation of Steve 700, 'cause if you are, I'm gonna make you miserable whenever you bring this stupid crap up...well, even if you're not Steve you will suffer being called an idiot.

By the way, do you know where Babylon is?

How 'bout America is just America?

..and how 'bout you shut up and go to your basement and study up on porn or something?





Your name and your brain....one and the same.

Reply
Oct 25, 2015 15:37:16   #
PZG1225 Loc: Florida
 
ziggy88 wrote:
America: The Final Babylon
Indeed, if the Great Tribulation and the second coming of Christ are truly upon us, then the article presented here is not only compelling it is necessary.

Negative Naysayers
The negative naybobs of political discontent will counter with “Surely America has been the ‘City Upon the Hill’ used by God to evangelize the world?” Of course this once was the case; but today in particular in the Northeast U.S. is one of the largest secular progressive unchurched regions on the planet! The irony is that the ‘city upon the hill’ reference as applied in America began with a sermon called “A model of Christian Charity” and was written in 1630 by the Puritan leader John Winthrop as his community of followers sailed to New England. In sharp relief, it is not an overstatement to lament today that we likely would require missionaries from Africa to evangelize New England. While those Puritan values were very formative in the founding years of this great nation, a couple of hundred years later we are falling into the morass of a sharp decline in morals and Christian values to the extent never seen before.

Founding Fathers
John Adams, one of America’s founding fathers once wrote, “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” James Madison stated these words with this statement: “We have staked the whole future of American civilization, not upon the power of government, far from it. We have staked the future of all political institutions upon the capacity of mankind of self-government; upon the capacity for each and all of us to govern ourselves, to control ourselves, to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God.” When the commandments of God are being taken down and hidden from the public on the lie of the ‘separation of church & state’ our decline becomes a slippery slope into the abyss.

Patriot Act
Accepting this at face value, we should not be surprised that under the Bush administration the Patriot Act effectively gutted the Constitutional freedoms once enjoyed by our citizenry. No matter what we once were, we are no longer a moral and religious nation. Our leadership is all too often lacking any center in ethical or moral standards, let alone biblical motivation when making decisions that should be God centered but turn out being self-centered secretly coming down with dubious legislation behind closed doors often benefiting the Congress not the American people.

No Longer Align with Christian Mandates
It is just not our political inclinations that are no longer aligned with biblical mandates; American Christians have been seduced by the world; its ideals and methodology. Daniel Atkins once made known, “The Church of Christ has been seduced by a skilled seductress: the American dream.” Jim Bakker (televangelist), while locked down in prison for stealing from the congregation, had a very radical epiphany while there. He had come to the full realization that Revelations prostitute, “the whore of Babylon”, is “materialism.” Despite the lessons learned by its worst offenders over the past decades, the consumer mentality of our collapsing culture infects the believing church to an even greater extent to this day.


Only Money Matters
It seems in today’s technopoly, the worship of technology, American evangelism has been assimilated into this beast of high tech jargonauts becoming embedded in our ecclesiastical institutions making resistance to such effects nearly impossible. The Babylon of Revelation 17:18 portrays this technopoly well. While given its inability to serve as censor to its own immoral and unethical motives, only money matters, as the colossus of international trade, it dominates as the principal exporter of immorality and perversion to the world.

Nailing it down
To put it bluntly in this indictment, porno is a huge business in the United States with total sales last year at $13.3 billion. This money is collected then porn sent throughout the world infecting countries like India, where rape has been mainstreamed into the culture, Islamic countries, where beatings & torture to women has become normal, and a large underworld of child porn prevalent in all nations.


Roe vs Wade
Then there is the 56 million murdered in the womb since 1973 famous Roe vs Wade decision sacrificed on the altar of easy sex and convenience. To define it even more: 56 million souls murdered that could have grown up to have lives, pay taxes, have children who paid taxes, grandchildren who paid taxes, contributing members of society that were actual Americans. The question is would we have to import alien workers to do jobs that the 56 million murdered in the womb could have done?
Mainstreaming Homosexuality
Even worse Protestant mainline denominations the ELCA and the PCUSA are knowingly leading its believers into hell by mainstreaming homosexuality. Not just satisfied with merely condoning homosexuality as an alternative sexual practice (sodomy) and lifestyle, they are going the extra mile by ordaining homosexual clergy to preside over their heterosexual congregations! While ignoring the clear warning in the scripture, thumbing their nose at God, denying his clear teaching against the practice, inverting his created order. What is even worse is the so called Emergent Church embracing the “spirit of the age” announcing same sex marriage as something God leads us now to “affirm & accept.” Like Billy Grahams wife Ruth once said, “If God does not judge America he should apologize to Sodom & Gomorrah.”
Biblical Scholar Craig Keener
Craig Keener observed: “Whereas Rome was the Babylon of John’s day, it was only one of several actors in Babylon’s role. Subsequent history reminds us that just as the false prophetess of Thyatira was a new Jezebel, the false prophet of Pergamum a new Balaam, the evil emperor a new Nero, and Rome a new Babylon, so the empire of history to return in successive incarnations that repeat the same basic lies. That the Babylon of John’s day has fallen, however, like most Babylon’s since and all that have preceded it, give us courage that the final Babylon (America) too, will perish before the glory of God’s invading kingdom.”

Is America the Final Babylon?
If you believe that the return of our Lord and savior Jesus Christ is returning soon in the rapture to take believers off the planet the conclusion above seems inevitable. There is one major caveat in order: America’s governing philosophy no longer consists of noble principles like being a patriot; it has been defaced by an anti-biblical utopianism on the one hand that diminishes personal freedom and an atheistic materialism on the other that is consuming the souls of its people. Should we challenge the justice of God or his righteousness in calling our nation to account for its corrupting impact on the world? Ultimately the reader must decide whether the epithet Babylon the Great, aka Mystery Babylon, is indeed, an invective proclaimed by the Lord’s angel of Revelation against the United States of America:
“After these things I saw another angel coming down from heaven, having great authority, and the earth was illuminated with his glory.
And he cried mightily with a loud voice, saying, Babylon the great has fallen, is fallen, and has become a dwelling place of demons, a prison for every foul spirit, and a cage for every unclean and hated bird!
For all the nations have drunk of the wine of her fornication, the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth have become rich through the abundance of her luxury.”
Is America the final Babylon? You tell me….
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Great post Ziggy, and your facts are spot on.....Biblically correct....these disgusting responses are further proof of God's Word, in that we are indeed living in the LAST of the last days. I'm looking up. God bless you.

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Oct 25, 2015 16:29:46   #
bahmer
 
PZG1225 wrote:
Great post Ziggy, and your facts are spot on.....Biblically correct....these disgusting responses are further proof of God's Word, in that we are indeed living in the LAST of the last days. I'm looking up. God bless you.


Amen and Amen

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Oct 26, 2015 08:39:28   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
PZG1225 wrote:
Your name and your brain....one and the same.


WTF?

You must be another great Christian Apologetic...nah...just an assclown.

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Oct 27, 2015 18:11:03   #
PeterS
 
Dummy Boy wrote:
WTF?

You must be another great Christian Apologetic...nah...just an assclown.


Don't take it personally. Look at Donald Trump. If you can't argue logically then attack personally. And note, that only conservatives seem to be the ones who eat it up. That tells you something right there. Besides, that's probably the cleverest thing he said all day...

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Oct 27, 2015 20:45:54   #
PZG1225 Loc: Florida
 
PeterS wrote:
Don't take it personally. Look at Donald Trump. If you can't argue logically then attack personally. And note, that only conservatives seem to be the ones who eat it up. That tells you something right there. Besides, that's probably the cleverest thing he said all day...


Oh believe me I won't and don't Peter.....I pretty much ignore his posts......as I said before...his name and his brain... all the same. Thanks for your thoughts.

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Oct 27, 2015 22:06:44   #
PulletSurprise Loc: Columbus, GA
 
ziggy88, great article. Thanks for your work.

Also, in Revelations a drunken whore rides the beast and she holds a cup which has the blood of Saints (believers in the Word of GOD).

How does this run with you?

Riding the beast is it similar to a drunken gambler who rides the system... he keeps sinking his money into a dying cause, 'I don't understand; I'll get it back WITH the next roll of the dice.'

We are guilty of causing two nations to fall into the hands of the beast... Libya and Egypt which have resulted in blood baths of die-hard Followers. Another nation must fall (I thought, Syria was targeted).

We have sacrificed the lives of our youth under the mask of securing the world and have pumped billions and billions of dollars into their system enhancing its growth and development as we grow closer to bankruptcy.

We have trained and equipped people resulting in some of the greatest atrocities in mankind’s history... WE have given POWER TO THE BEAST of end times.

And a Quarter of a century later; let me pour just a little more blood and money… just one more throw of the dice!

Like in the days of Noah... people have committed themselves into darkness/occult practices. We are in a spiritual battle.

Babylon fell when the enemy tunneled under their secured walls.
Political Moles have undermined our corrupt system to their own ends.

We can be assured, There is nothing to worry about.

GOD is not a figment of our imagination... We are a figment of HIS Imagination!

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